I tried iDVD but the project was like....26 GB. All I want is to save files and back up my system which I knew how to do in Windows but Mac is totally new.
select "when you insert a blank DVD..." "ASK WHAT TO DO" (you probably have "open iDVD" selected)
To make a data DVD, you just want to "open in Finder" when you insert the disk. ... then you can drag files to it ... when you try to eject it, the Mac will ask if you want to burn the disk.
On the Mac, we use the Unix term aliases. Windows has shortcuts. The Finder doesn't copy anything to the DVD icon until it burns the disc. Those aliases serve to show you how the DVD will be organized after it is burned. The finished DVD will have the actual files rather than the aliases.
When Apple adopted aliases as part of its new System 7, it implemented a subset of the Unix CLI functionality in its GUI. The company used the name which was already familiar to the Unix community.
When Apple adopted aliases as part of its new System 7, it implemented a subset of the Unix CLI functionality in its GUI. The company used the name which was already familiar to the Unix community.
Okay, what now?
1) System 7 had no Unix components whatsoever.
2) The aliases in System 7 (and in Mac OS X) are an HFS feature.
3) Since Mac OS had, at the time, no relationship at all to the Unix community, there would have been no point to use a "name which was already familiar".
4) Once again, Unix shell aliases are something completely different.
I said that Apple used the Unix term. I did not say that Apple used Unix components.
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3) Since Mac OS had, at the time, no relationship at all to the Unix community,
This is not entirely true. System 6 ran on the Apple Unix Environment (AUE). After it was released, Apple ported System 7 to AUE. And let us not forget A/UX, Apple's port of System V.
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there would have been no point to use a "name which was already familiar".
Seeing as how Apple had quite of bit of interest in UNIX, it was perfectly understandable that it would adopt UNIX terms.
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4) Once again, Unix shell aliases are something completely different.
This is not entirely true. System 6 ran on the Apple Unix Environment (AUE). After it was released, Apple ported System 7 to AUE. And let us not forget A/UX, Apple's port of System V.
Yes, and Macintosh Application Environment. Now, what does that have to do with the topic again?
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Seeing as how Apple had quite of bit of interest in UNIX, it was perfectly understandable that it would adopt UNIX terms.
Macintosh aliases are GUI aliases.
When will you accept that an alias in bash and an alias in the Finder are two entirely complete unrelated things? Jeez.
Apple's method of burning media is ridiculously unintuitive. I suggest downloading the free LiquidCD or Burn and burn files the normal way... state what type of media you want to burn (eg: Video or Data DVD), drag files to a pane, and click a burn button. I'm really surprised at the retardedness of Apple's Finder disc burning.
Thanks for the help! I'll remember the alias term. Though I'll admit I think of the show when I use it.
So, I'm downloading Burn (thanks for the link!) but I could indeed use Apple's iDVD, in that the alias would convert to a file? The only problem I found was I couldn't tell how much space was left without selecting each file to get a grand total through the file info.
I think iDVD is for like making video DVDs of your own footage, not making data DVDs etc.
Mac the Ripper is great for ripping and reburning DVDs, LiquidCD and Burn are great (presumably; I've never used them) for burning files to DVD. iDVD is more for making your video footage work in other peoples' DVD players.
Apple's method of burning media is ridiculously unintuitive. I suggest downloading the free LiquidCD or Burn and burn files the normal way... state what type of media you want to burn (eg: Video or Data DVD), drag files to a pane, and click a burn button. I'm really surprised at the retardedness of Apple's Finder disc burning.
How is it unintuitive? The disk shows up on the desktop, you drag files onto it and hit the burn button.
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select "when you insert a blank DVD..." "ASK WHAT TO DO" (you probably have "open iDVD" selected)
To make a data DVD, you just want to "open in Finder" when you insert the disk. ... then you can drag files to it ... when you try to eject it, the Mac will ask if you want to burn the disk.
Does it make any sense that when I drag a file to the DVD icon, it only copies a shortcut?
Does it make any sense that when I drag a file to the DVD icon, it only copies a shortcut?
That is the way it works, but now that you say it, it is weird, isn't it? You don't want to burn aliases, you want to burn the actual files.
On the Mac, we use the Unix term aliases. Windows has shortcuts.
Aliases are a Mac term. Unix has symlinks (softlinks) and hardlinks. Windows has shortcuts and junctions.
Aliases, symlinks and shortcuts work similarly.
Hardlinks and junctions work similarly.
All of them have one thing in common: they're incompatible with each other.
You guys realize that when you burn the disk, those aliases turn into files, right?
Sure, but it's misleading to copy aliases to the DVD. I just never thought about it before bec brought it up.
Aliases are a Mac term. ...
Huh?
Huh?
That's something entirely different.
When Apple adopted aliases as part of its new System 7, it implemented a subset of the Unix CLI functionality in its GUI. The company used the name which was already familiar to the Unix community.
Okay, what now?
1) System 7 had no Unix components whatsoever.
2) The aliases in System 7 (and in Mac OS X) are an HFS feature.
3) Since Mac OS had, at the time, no relationship at all to the Unix community, there would have been no point to use a "name which was already familiar".
4) Once again, Unix shell aliases are something completely different.
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1) System 7 had no Unix components whatsoever.
I said that Apple used the Unix term. I did not say that Apple used Unix components.
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3) Since Mac OS had, at the time, no relationship at all to the Unix community,
This is not entirely true. System 6 ran on the Apple Unix Environment (AUE). After it was released, Apple ported System 7 to AUE. And let us not forget A/UX, Apple's port of System V.
there would have been no point to use a "name which was already familiar".
Seeing as how Apple had quite of bit of interest in UNIX, it was perfectly understandable that it would adopt UNIX terms.
4) Once again, Unix shell aliases are something completely different.
Macintosh aliases are GUI aliases.
I said that Apple used the Unix term.
The Unix term for something unrelated.
This is not entirely true. System 6 ran on the Apple Unix Environment (AUE). After it was released, Apple ported System 7 to AUE. And let us not forget A/UX, Apple's port of System V.
Yes, and Macintosh Application Environment. Now, what does that have to do with the topic again?
Seeing as how Apple had quite of bit of interest in UNIX, it was perfectly understandable that it would adopt UNIX terms.
Macintosh aliases are GUI aliases.
When will you accept that an alias in bash and an alias in the Finder are two entirely complete unrelated things? Jeez.
So, I'm downloading Burn (thanks for the link!) but I could indeed use Apple's iDVD, in that the alias would convert to a file? The only problem I found was I couldn't tell how much space was left without selecting each file to get a grand total through the file info.
Mac the Ripper is great for ripping and reburning DVDs, LiquidCD and Burn are great (presumably; I've never used them) for burning files to DVD. iDVD is more for making your video footage work in other peoples' DVD players.
Apple's method of burning media is ridiculously unintuitive. I suggest downloading the free LiquidCD or Burn and burn files the normal way... state what type of media you want to burn (eg: Video or Data DVD), drag files to a pane, and click a burn button. I'm really surprised at the retardedness of Apple's Finder disc burning.
How is it unintuitive? The disk shows up on the desktop, you drag files onto it and hit the burn button.