Now about this WiFi sharing thing-- it appears that the DRM scheme MS worked out with the labels allows you to play a shared song for three days, then it disappears.
On top of that, I've yet to see a reference to this feature that didn't qualify things by using a term like "select" or "promotional" or "certain" to describe the songs that could be shared.
I think it's pretty clear that there is a "sharing" flag that is part of the DRM, and that it won't be turned on for all songs, if even the majority. The term "promotional" immediately made me suspect that the labels hope to use this to drive buzz for certain acts and releases but not as a ubiquitous feature.
So for battery life tradeoff you get temporary sharing on some songs. I would imagine that as soon as early adopters figure out they can't necessarily share the song they want to share but only those the label wants them to share there will be some pretty negative word of mouth.
I heard all the same caveats you caught, yet I still saw "newscasters" practically wetting themselves at the thought of "real competition for the iPod".
I can't wait to see Steve Jobs doing an old classic bake off (like they use to with the PowerPC vs. Intel computers) when they announce the new iPod:
Jobs: "I will use an iPod and Senior VP of Worldwide Product Marketing Phil Schiller will use the MS Zune"
Jobs: "let's see how long it takes to find the Zoolander soundtrack on the iPod...okay I'm there"
Schiller : "okay Steve I'm at Bob Dylan...."
Jobs: "let me go ahead and do this again but this time I will turn off the iPod and turn it back on again just to give you a chance..."
Schiller "okay I'm at Miles Davis..."
Jobs "okay it's turned back on and...okay done"
Schiller "I think I should just give up Steve"
you know that you could just click up and be at z right? I am not understanding why the schiller guy would be going down the list, as apposed to going in reverse.??
From an article on the Electronic Frontier Foundation website:
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n yesterday's announcement of the new Zune media player and Zune Marketplace, Microsoft (and many press reports) glossed over a remarkable misfeature that should demonstrate once and for all how DRM and the DMCA harm legitimate customers.
Microsoft's Zune will not play protected Windows Media Audio and Video purchased or "rented" from Napster 2.0, Rhapsody, Yahoo! Unlimited, Movielink, Cinemanow, or any other online media service. That's right -- the media that Microsoft promised would Play For Sure doesn't even play on Microsoft's own device. Buried in footnote 4 of its press release, Microsoft clearly states that "Zune software can import audio files in unprotected WMA, MP3, AAC; photos in JPEG; and videos in WMV, MPEG-4, H.264" -- protected WMA and WMV (not to mention iTunes DRMed AAC) are conspicuously absent.
WTF? Is this something the labels demanded in exchange for the "sharing" feature? Or just a misreading?
Because if true it means that people's "plays for sure" music libraries won't transfer over to the Zune, which seem completely insane.
you know that you could just click up and be at z right? I am not understanding why the schiller guy would be going down the list, as apposed to going in reverse.??
Who is this suppose to appeal to? I am 23 (24 next month) years old, and I have a large range of musical taste from emo to country to hardcore punk but this...this is just pure noise.
I haven't heard another tune quite so grating since the Monkeyboy smash hit "Developers, Developers, Developers".
I find it absolutely amazing that someone would choose such a fast beat song to accompany the user's slooooooooooow clicking through the menus. Painful to watch.
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Now about this WiFi sharing thing-- it appears that the DRM scheme MS worked out with the labels allows you to play a shared song for three days, then it disappears.
On top of that, I've yet to see a reference to this feature that didn't qualify things by using a term like "select" or "promotional" or "certain" to describe the songs that could be shared.
I think it's pretty clear that there is a "sharing" flag that is part of the DRM, and that it won't be turned on for all songs, if even the majority. The term "promotional" immediately made me suspect that the labels hope to use this to drive buzz for certain acts and releases but not as a ubiquitous feature.
So for battery life tradeoff you get temporary sharing on some songs. I would imagine that as soon as early adopters figure out they can't necessarily share the song they want to share but only those the label wants them to share there will be some pretty negative word of mouth.
I heard all the same caveats you caught, yet I still saw "newscasters" practically wetting themselves at the thought of "real competition for the iPod".
The commercial is hilariously terrible. What the fuck were they thinking.
I love the ad.
Not to mention it's S L O W!
I can't wait to see Steve Jobs doing an old classic bake off (like they use to with the PowerPC vs. Intel computers) when they announce the new iPod:
Jobs: "I will use an iPod and Senior VP of Worldwide Product Marketing Phil Schiller will use the MS Zune"
Jobs: "let's see how long it takes to find the Zoolander soundtrack on the iPod...okay I'm there"
Schiller : "okay Steve I'm at Bob Dylan...."
Jobs: "let me go ahead and do this again but this time I will turn off the iPod and turn it back on again just to give you a chance..."
Schiller "okay I'm at Miles Davis..."
Jobs "okay it's turned back on and...okay done"
Schiller "I think I should just give up Steve"
you know that you could just click up and be at z right? I am not understanding why the schiller guy would be going down the list, as apposed to going in reverse.??
From an article on the Electronic Frontier Foundation website:
I
n yesterday's announcement of the new Zune media player and Zune Marketplace, Microsoft (and many press reports) glossed over a remarkable misfeature that should demonstrate once and for all how DRM and the DMCA harm legitimate customers.
Microsoft's Zune will not play protected Windows Media Audio and Video purchased or "rented" from Napster 2.0, Rhapsody, Yahoo! Unlimited, Movielink, Cinemanow, or any other online media service. That's right -- the media that Microsoft promised would Play For Sure doesn't even play on Microsoft's own device. Buried in footnote 4 of its press release, Microsoft clearly states that "Zune software can import audio files in unprotected WMA, MP3, AAC; photos in JPEG; and videos in WMV, MPEG-4, H.264" -- protected WMA and WMV (not to mention iTunes DRMed AAC) are conspicuously absent.
WTF? Is this something the labels demanded in exchange for the "sharing" feature? Or just a misreading?
Because if true it means that people's "plays for sure" music libraries won't transfer over to the Zune, which seem completely insane.
you know that you could just click up and be at z right? I am not understanding why the schiller guy would be going down the list, as apposed to going in reverse.??
Do you work for Microsoft...
Anyways, I just tried to find some specs on Zune. First place to look of course is producer web site. Look what I've got.
Ok, see, your problem is right there in front of you.
You need to click "All Languages" and type in "penis" and/or "vagina", since "Zune" is French-Canadian slang.
Do you work for Microsoft...
no I just don't like fanboys.
Who is this suppose to appeal to? I am 23 (24 next month) years old, and I have a large range of musical taste from emo to country to hardcore punk but this...this is just pure noise.
I haven't heard another tune quite so grating since the Monkeyboy smash hit "Developers, Developers, Developers".
I haven't heard another tune quite so grating since the Monkeyboy smash hit "Developers, Developers, Developers".
ROFL
Here they are imbedded in a form, remastered, combined with "You can't touch this", yuck, just watched it again:
http://zuneboards.com/showthread.php?tid=203
I find it absolutely amazing that someone would choose such a fast beat song to accompany the user's slooooooooooow clicking through the menus. Painful to watch.
Actually it was Ringo Starr.
Anyways, I just tried to find some specs on Zune. First place to look of course is producer web site. Look what I've got.
THAT has got to be the funniest thing i have seen all year, utterly PRICELESS!
Zune in use:
http://www.youtube.com/v/QI3B9XX3lf0 - BAD LINK
http://www.youtube.com/v/jwGol5D9Csg - BAD LINK
Zune TV Ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgSEXKff04E - Possible FAKE (Because it wasn't taken down by YouTube)
I get the giggles watching the Zune in action. The little 4-way Clicker button (Fake Scroll Wheel), and the clunky UI, it's just too funy for words!
EDIT: Updated links
It appears youtube took them down.
Here they are imbedded in a form, remastered, combined with "You can't touch this", yuck, just watched it again:
http://zuneboards.com/showthread.php?tid=203
The admin of the above forum (Zuneboards) ponders if Zune will be stillborn:
http://zuneboards.com/showthread.php?tid=157