Apple updates, drops price of U2 iPod

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  • Reply 21 of 57
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by applebook


    I think that the last four U2 albums have all been good but not great like Joshua Tree or Achtung Baby. At least the band's music has actually advanced (for better or for worse) after every decade.



    It's like Bob Dylan. After reading that it's number one, I bought it. Disappointing is a good word. But, it is number one.



    Same thing when Santana came out with his last album, after not doing anything for some years. It recieved a lot of hoopla, and even some awards, but I found it to be wanting. But, again, it sold well.



    Few groups that have been around for a while are still doing groundbreaking, and good, work. But, that doesn't mean that they are not still top of the heap. And he does keep his name and his group;s, in the papers. That's why Apple does this.
  • Reply 22 of 57
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,953member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ecking


    Maybe I under estimated the pwer of the U2 ipod...



    I do like the band but if I had bought a 5G U2, it would have been for the video capabilities over the previous models and the color scheme, particularly the black back is pretty neat too. It would be nice to not have those signatures though.
  • Reply 23 of 57
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JeffDM


    I do like the band but if I had bought a 5G U2, it would have been for the video capabilities over the previous models and the color scheme, particularly the black back is pretty neat too. It would be nice to not have those signatures though.



    The signatures are one of the selling points.
  • Reply 24 of 57
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross


    The signatures are one of the selling points.



    The signatures are the worst feature, in my personal opinion. I love the color scheme, the red click wheel is sick!! But I wouldn't like the U2 names on the back because I'm not their biggest fan. So it makes me choose another, less expensive iPod. I wouldn't mind paying the price premium if it didn't have those signatures there. (Others would get it too; see Macbook, black.)



    I bet there are more people who would buy it just for the colors than there are people who would buy it for the signatures and the included cupon.
  • Reply 25 of 57
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by monkeyastronaut


    The signatures are the worst feature, in my personal opinion. I love the color scheme, the red click wheel is sick!! But I wouldn't like the U2 names on the back because I'm not their biggest fan. So it makes me choose another, less expensive iPod. I wouldn't mind paying the price premium if it didn't have those signatures there. (Others would get it too; see Macbook, black.)



    I bet there are more people who would buy it just for the colors than there are people who would buy it for the signatures and the included cupon.



    I don't think we can prove it either way. But there are many U2 fans out there. These autographs are the closest they will get to getting one signed. It does mean a lot to some people.
  • Reply 26 of 57
    U2 is my 3rd favorite band all-time after The Beatles and Radiohead, but I don't care for autographs of any kind. The red click wheel is just slick, IMO.



    Still, an extra $30 is not worth it for me, so I decided on the black iPod.
  • Reply 27 of 57
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross


    I don't think we can prove it either way. But there are many U2 fans out there. These autographs are the closest they will get to getting one signed. It does mean a lot to some people.



    Mel, i am pretty sure there are more people that like red and black than U2 fans.



    either way, it doesn't look like the model is going away. maybe when u2 releases a new album the whole color scheme will go kaput as it seems it was inspired by their Atom Bomb album.
  • Reply 28 of 57
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by monkeyastronaut


    Mel, i am pretty sure there are more people that like red and black than U2 fans.



    either way, it doesn't look like the model is going away. maybe when u2 releases a new album the whole color scheme will go kaput as it seems it was inspired by their Atom Bomb album.



    Don't be so sure. How many albums has U2 sold over the years? Surely far more than Apple has sold iPods.
  • Reply 29 of 57
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross


    Don't be so sure. How many albums has U2 sold over the years? Surely far more than Apple has sold iPods.



    My est. would be well over 160 million, but that's over two decades, while the iPod has sold over 30 mill (?) in about half a decade.



    Also, The Wall has sold around 40 million copies, but that doesn't mean that a Pink Floyd iPod would even sell a million.
  • Reply 30 of 57
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,953member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by applebook


    My est. would be well over 160 million, but that's over two decades, while the iPod has sold over 30 mill (?) in about half a decade.



    Also, The Wall has sold around 40 million copies, but that doesn't mean that a Pink Floyd iPod would even sell a million.



    http://forum.interference.com/t57204.html



    I don't know if this is true, but it claims, as of 1997, the number of U2 albums sold was about 67 million, worldwide. If that is true, I would be skeptical that an additional 100 million would be sold in the last nine years.



    The last iPod sales figures I've seen was 60 million.



    I haven't heard of any numbers on what the U2 SE sales volumes were. It could very well be that they only need a few hundred thousand of each version sold to make it worth their time. Whatever those numbers are, it looks like Apple's happy enough or else they would have tried other SE variations a year ago.
  • Reply 31 of 57
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JeffDM


    http://forum.interference.com/t57204.html



    I don't know if this is true, but it claims, as of 1997, the number of U2 albums sold was about 67 million, worldwide. If that is true, I would be skeptical that an additional 100 million would be sold in the last nine years.



    The last iPod sales figures I've seen was 60 million.



    I haven't heard of any numbers on what the U2 SE sales volumes were. It could very well be that they only need a few hundred thousand of each version sold to make it worth their time. Whatever those numbers are, it looks like Apple's happy enough or else they would have tried other SE variations a year ago.



    They likely have sold well over 100 million albums.



    Apple has sold over 60 million iPods.



    But for either, many people buy more than one.



    Nevertheless, there are plenty of people out there who would want this.



    And, I do think a Pink Floyd iPod would sell.



    As would a Beatles, and a Rolling Stone one.



    I'm sure country western fans would have a say as well, as would Rap and Hip Hop fans.
  • Reply 32 of 57
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross


    Don't be so sure. How many albums has U2 sold over the years? Surely far more than Apple has sold iPods.



    well that just isn't fair, comparison-wise. you only really "need" 1 ipod, and you might "need" 10 U2 albums.



    and ipods don't even cost the same as cds.
  • Reply 33 of 57
    and, no matter how many million albums U2 sells, i still think there are more people who would buy the U2 ipod without the signatures on the back, just because it is black and has a really cool red clickwheel, than there are people that buy it because it is the U2 edition.



    my main point here is that i believe there are far more people that could buy this ipod just for the color scheme than for the inclusion of the signatures. because it is a real pretty ipod, but not everyone wants the signatures there. maybe they could offer an option. it is a turn off for would be buyers.
  • Reply 34 of 57
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by monkeyastronaut


    well that just isn't fair, comparison-wise. you only really "need" 1 ipod, and you might "need" 10 U2 albums.



    and ipods don't even cost the same as cds.



    That's not really the point.



    You don't "need" either of them. You "want" them. A big difference.



    But, despite the price difference, numerous people buy several iPods over a period of years, just as people buy several albums from one entertainer over a period of years.



    The difference is that While I have over 2 thousand LP's, and over 3,000 CD's, my family has had only five iPods since they first came out. About the average for the number of albums I have for any particular act.
  • Reply 35 of 57
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by monkeyastronaut


    and, no matter how many million albums U2 sells, i still think there are more people who would buy the U2 ipod without the signatures on the back, just because it is black and has a really cool red clickwheel, than there are people that buy it because it is the U2 edition.



    my main point here is that i believe there are far more people that could buy this ipod just for the color scheme than for the inclusion of the signatures. because it is a real pretty ipod, but not everyone wants the signatures there. maybe they could offer an option. it is a turn off for would be buyers.



    This isn't something we can logically argue, because neither of us have any way of knowing whether we are right. The truth is that it could go either way, and short of doing a survey of those who bought them, there is no way of finding out.
  • Reply 36 of 57
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross


    And, I do think a Pink Floyd iPod would sell. As would a Beatles, and a Rolling Stone one.



    Don't hold your breath on that Beatles special edition iPod...



    P.S. Count me as a red/black but no signature fan. I prefer that color scheme but I'm nowhere near a big enough U2 fan to carry around their iPod. I have a healthy respect for the band and their first <6 albums but something about the signatures smacks of... label whoredom maybe? I realize the fans appreciate the feature, and it's a cool feature, but I would view it as an imperfection.
  • Reply 37 of 57
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by davidzLA


    Don't hold your breath on that Beatles special edition iPod...



    I'm not even holding my breath for beatles's downloads.
  • Reply 38 of 57
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,953member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross


    I'm not even holding my breath for beatles's downloads.



    If we do see it any time soon, it would probably be on the Zune service. I don't think it will be on iTunes for a long time.
  • Reply 39 of 57
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JeffDM


    If we do see it any time soon, it would probably be on the Zune service. I don't think it will be on iTunes for a long time.



    Depends on much how much they want the money. Not much will come from the Zune relationship for a while, even if it did lead to more Zune sales.
  • Reply 40 of 57
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,953member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross


    Depends on much how much they want the money. Not much will come from the Zune relationship for a while, even if it did lead to more Zune sales.



    I get the impression that they would cut their noses off to spite Apple, but then, Microsoft might be willing to give them a major bonus for signing a temporary exclusivity deal.
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