That's what I was thought the first poster who mentioned the size was talking about alluding to the picture of the guy holding the big disc, which looks about that size.
300mm = 30cm. That is the newest wafer diameter in current use.
Workstation boards are far better when doing workstation tasks than game boards are. They are designed so that their functions excel at the tasks that 3D programs, CAD/CAM programs, and scientific programs need. They are not as good as the best game boards at games. there are far less of them sold, and the seperate development causes their prices to be high.
Understood.
And I do see the need for this type of GPU on the Mac platform.
Again, I was just looking at the price and how I could spend it on the PC side of the fence.
But you are right, those gaming GPU's wouldn't be very good at 3D rendering.
OTOH, just think of the OC'ed DIY PC you can build for ~$1,800. In 2 months it will get you a 4 core Conroe with a top of the line gamerz GPU!
Chucker, go read http://developer.apple.com/graphicsi.../overview.html since you're obviously confusing the technology terms (Quartz, Quartz Extreme, Quartz 2D) with the programming frameworks (Core Graphics, Core Image etc).
The technology for GPU based effects is called Quartz Extreme. The Objective-C framework you use to get graphics is Core Image and is supposed to work irrespective of the availability of a GPU. Core Graphics is the framework used when programming for Quartz 2D Extreme introduced in 10.4.
Your claim that "Quartz Extreme has nothing to do with the effects. Core Image does. Some Core Image effects are not available without GPU acceleration." is entirely backwards and wrong.
Your faith in Windows developers to add EFI support to their hardware even though they don't need to is charming.
The technology for GPU based effects is called Quartz Extreme.
Quartz Extreme is exclusively responsible for accelerating compositing by loading that work off to the GPU.
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Your claim that "Quartz Extreme has nothing to do with the effects. Core Image does. Some Core Image effects are not available without GPU acceleration." is entirely backwards and wrong.
Really now.
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Your faith in Windows developers to add EFI support to their hardware even though they don't need to is charming.
Your assertion that a Mac driver developer is a Windows developer is funny.
Glad you agree now. Earlier you said it was Core Image.
I did not. You clearly aren't able to read my posts, nor are you able to understand what Quartz Extreme does and doesn't do. I recommend you do some research, because I don't have the time to keep repeating myself.
I did not. You clearly aren't able to read my posts, nor are you able to understand what Quartz Extreme does and doesn't do. I recommend you do some research, because I don't have the time to keep repeating myself.
Yeah, you are right, it is hard to explain. As you suggest, 300^2 is very different from 300mm^2, the reason might not be obvious by just looking at it, mm^2 is a unit, 300 is the multiplier, and it certainly doesn't mean (300mm)^2.
I think of mm^2 being mm * mm, based on how unit analysis is supposed to work. And as you say, called "square millimeters". It's a bit counterintuitive. The unit is squared, not the number.
I would rather people write it out. When it is written out, then the person writing it can see right away if they said what they wanted to. With this ^, it's easy to make a mistake. I've seen it happen all of the time, and then we spend all of this time correcting ourselves. "²" works for me, but It's not easy for everyone. I use "Pop Character" which makes it easy. But there is no guarantee that it will come up on the board. We'll see if it did. If not, I'll edit and say so.
Ok, it worked!
So what I meant was that 300² is 300 squared. 300 x 300. There is no way to easily write out 300 square mm, other than to just write that.
"²" works for me, but It's not easy for everyone. I use "Pop Character" which makes it easy. But there is no guarantee that it will come up on the board. We'll see if it did. If not, I'll edit and say so.
I see your superscript "2" fine on Firefox 2.0rc1, OS X.
Unfortunately, the caret is the way to go, but I thought its use was standardized and well known. I am not aware of any other use in English. I don't even understand why it's so confusing.
I see your superscript "2" fine on Firefox 2.0rc1, OS X.
Unfortunately, the caret is the way to go, but I thought its use was standardized and well known. I am not aware of any other use. I don't even understand why it's so confusing.
The claret is not the correct way of writing it. It's only used when a superscript can't be used. But, it is confusing because many people who read it don't understand that it stands for "power".
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That's what I was thought the first poster who mentioned the size was talking about alluding to the picture of the guy holding the big disc, which looks about that size.
300mm = 30cm. That is the newest wafer diameter in current use.
Workstation boards are far better when doing workstation tasks than game boards are. They are designed so that their functions excel at the tasks that 3D programs, CAD/CAM programs, and scientific programs need. They are not as good as the best game boards at games. there are far less of them sold, and the seperate development causes their prices to be high.
Understood.
And I do see the need for this type of GPU on the Mac platform.
Again, I was just looking at the price and how I could spend it on the PC side of the fence.
But you are right, those gaming GPU's wouldn't be very good at 3D rendering.
OTOH, just think of the OC'ed DIY PC you can build for ~$1,800. In 2 months it will get you a 4 core Conroe with a top of the line gamerz GPU!
300mm = 30cm. That is the newest wafer diameter in current use.
Yes. The actual dimensions of a SINGLE Intel 80-core CPU are 13.75mm by 22mm, according to an Intel slide at IDF.
But, 22 * 13.75 = 302.5mm^2 != 300mm^2. Another Intel lie!
BTW, do you know why wafers are round? See Boule. It's kinda like candle dipping!
Chucker, go read http://developer.apple.com/graphicsi.../overview.html since you're obviously confusing the technology terms (Quartz, Quartz Extreme, Quartz 2D) with the programming frameworks (Core Graphics, Core Image etc).
The technology for GPU based effects is called Quartz Extreme. The Objective-C framework you use to get graphics is Core Image and is supposed to work irrespective of the availability of a GPU. Core Graphics is the framework used when programming for Quartz 2D Extreme introduced in 10.4.
Your claim that "Quartz Extreme has nothing to do with the effects. Core Image does. Some Core Image effects are not available without GPU acceleration." is entirely backwards and wrong.
Your faith in Windows developers to add EFI support to their hardware even though they don't need to is charming.
The technology for GPU based effects is called Quartz Extreme.
Quartz Extreme is exclusively responsible for accelerating compositing by loading that work off to the GPU.
Your claim that "Quartz Extreme has nothing to do with the effects. Core Image does. Some Core Image effects are not available without GPU acceleration." is entirely backwards and wrong.
Really now.
Your faith in Windows developers to add EFI support to their hardware even though they don't need to is charming.
Your assertion that a Mac driver developer is a Windows developer is funny.
Quartz Extreme is exclusively responsible for accelerating compositing by loading that work off to the GPU.
Glad you agree now. Earlier you said it was Core Image.
Really now.
Thanks for agreeing again.
Your assertion that a Mac driver developer is a Windows developer is funny.
Glad you agree they'd have to become Mac driver developers which was my whole point back at the very start of this.
Glad you agree now. Earlier you said it was Core Image.
I did not. You clearly aren't able to read my posts, nor are you able to understand what Quartz Extreme does and doesn't do. I recommend you do some research, because I don't have the time to keep repeating myself.
I did not. You clearly aren't able to read my posts, nor are you able to understand what Quartz Extreme does and doesn't do. I recommend you do some research, because I don't have the time to keep repeating myself.
No, I'm perfectly clear. Thanks again.
Yeah, you are right, it is hard to explain. As you suggest, 300^2 is very different from 300mm^2, the reason might not be obvious by just looking at it, mm^2 is a unit, 300 is the multiplier, and it certainly doesn't mean (300mm)^2.
I think of mm^2 being mm * mm, based on how unit analysis is supposed to work. And as you say, called "square millimeters". It's a bit counterintuitive. The unit is squared, not the number.
I would rather people write it out. When it is written out, then the person writing it can see right away if they said what they wanted to. With this ^, it's easy to make a mistake. I've seen it happen all of the time, and then we spend all of this time correcting ourselves. "²" works for me, but It's not easy for everyone. I use "Pop Character" which makes it easy. But there is no guarantee that it will come up on the board. We'll see if it did. If not, I'll edit and say so.
Ok, it worked!
So what I meant was that 300² is 300 squared. 300 x 300. There is no way to easily write out 300 square mm, other than to just write that.
"²" works for me, but It's not easy for everyone. I use "Pop Character" which makes it easy. But there is no guarantee that it will come up on the board. We'll see if it did. If not, I'll edit and say so.
I see your superscript "2" fine on Firefox 2.0rc1, OS X.
Unfortunately, the caret is the way to go, but I thought its use was standardized and well known. I am not aware of any other use in English. I don't even understand why it's so confusing.
I see your superscript "2" fine on Firefox 2.0rc1, OS X.
Unfortunately, the caret is the way to go, but I thought its use was standardized and well known. I am not aware of any other use. I don't even understand why it's so confusing.
The claret is not the correct way of writing it. It's only used when a superscript can't be used. But, it is confusing because many people who read it don't understand that it stands for "power".