Ballmer claims Microsoft won't lose money on Zune

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  • Reply 21 of 91
    murkmurk Posts: 935member
    Squirt fits perfectly with the French Canadian slang meaning of Zune.
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  • Reply 22 of 91
    nagrommenagromme Posts: 2,834member
    Quote:

    "I want to squirt you a picture of my kids. You want to squirt me back a video of your vacation."



    That's what I want, is it? However, unless BOTH you AND I own a Zune, we can't squirt. We'll still have settle for me handing you my player to look at the photos Is that so terrible? Is that a problem that needs a solution? (Don't get me wrong, it's a neat extra--like the stopwatch built into iPods--but how frequently will it be used in reality? And the iPod stopwatch doesn't drain battery life waiting to find other users in range for exciting 3-day music loans.)



    Quote:

    "We'll figure out how to make money on the community perhaps later though advertising or other means."



    Does "figure out how to make money later" sound like a good business plan?



    Quote:

    Asked how much money Microsoft will lose per Zune, Ballmer said, "None."



    That's still not completely clear to me. That sounds like it COULD mean that MS will lose money per hardware sale, but "predicts" that they will make it up in other ways to break even. (Including the advertising budget, and the loss of PlaysForSure WMA revenue from its WMA licensees it is now competing against?) Not that it matters, MS will survive a loss.



    From Buck's "Zune vs. iPod Myths" link:

    Quote:

    "According to a CNet MP3.com interview with Microsoft executives from two weeks ago, "the Zune won't immediately have video playback capability." ... ""You?re right that there?s not a lot of emphasis on [video playback on the Zune] and that really kind of goes to maybe a big vision difference and competitive difference that we see with Apple right now. Our goal right now is to celebrate music." ... "Microsoft isn't supporting Audible audiobooks, nor providing any support for podcasting, nor has it announced any support for notes, tasks, calendars, contacts, or games. So all it does is play music. "



    What?



    Quote:

    "If your number one fan is sending you hate mail, you have a problem. So what's with all the Zune related web sites carefully repeating the same talking points? It's called astroturfing. Instead of inspiring actual interest in a grassroots fashion, Microsoft has resorted to spreading fake grass, crafting each site to suggest the appearance of something other than the advertisement it is."







    Quote:

    Myth 10: Available in Brown



    Haha, actually this myth is true...







    And on top of it all, it's not even compatible with other Microsft WMA stores



    But they gave me a chance to use different smileys 8)
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  • Reply 23 of 91
    murkmurk Posts: 935member
    If you could be a billionaire but had to look like SB, would you take the deal? Oh, and had to be obnoxious, too.
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  • Reply 24 of 91
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Buck


    Good to know I wasn't the only one puzzled with his choice of words...

    Here's a great review of Zune by the way, dunno if anyone's already posted this - http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/Hom...974628809.html



    good read...

    "

    According to a CNet MP3.com interview with Microsoft executives from two weeks ago, "the Zune won't immediately have video playback capability." Yikes! It?s supposed to be out the middle of November.

    "





    "? Lack of emphasis on video: Lee: ?You?re right that there?s not a lot of emphasis on it and that really kind of goes to maybe a big vision difference and competitive difference that we see with Apple right now.

    "

    Bigger screen, no video





    Yikes!
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  • Reply 24 of 91
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    Thousands of Microsoft employees must be hanging their heads in shame right now.
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  • Reply 26 of 91
    bdj21yabdj21ya Posts: 297member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by murk


    If you could be a billionaire but had to look like SB, would you take the deal? Oh, and had to be obnoxious, too.



    I'd take the billion, use part to get some lipo, some personality classes, then enjoy the rest of the dough.8)
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  • Reply 27 of 91
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Eduardo


    He lost me at "squirt".



    Did he really say 'squirt'?



    He did. But even before that I was thinking I'd rather not touch him in one place never mind multiple places. Euww!
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  • Reply 28 of 91
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by murk


    If you could be a billionaire but had to look like SB, would you take the deal? Oh, and had to be obnoxious, too.



    I can be obnoxious for a lot less if you like.
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  • Reply 29 of 91
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chucker


    Thousands of Microsoft employees must be hanging their heads in shame right now.



    My thoughts, exactly. Or better yet, would they be crazy enough to show their heads? Uh...I wouldn't.



    Apple Rules!
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  • Reply 30 of 91
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by minderbinder


    Who does this nutcase have writing his copy, Tobias Fünke?



    Someone's got to fill the gaping void left by the death of Arrested Development. Who'd have thought it'd be Ballmer?
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  • Reply 31 of 91
    I don't care what the definition of squirt is, he should of used something else.



    Oh, and what is this I hear about Zune not having video? It cannot share video ( to the best of my knowledge ) but it can definately play them. they are including 5 music videos after all...



    edit: ( WMV and H.264 support ) just to clarify.
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  • Reply 32 of 91
    sad sad sad..... this guy doesn't even sound like he knows his own product. I hope there are analysts around the world reading that article and wisely recommending SELL on MSFT stock.
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  • Reply 33 of 91
    Ummm... which you sure you aren't making this up from a fake dictionary?



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pdoisy


    English not being my mother tongue and wondering about all comments, I looked in the Mac OSX dictionary for "squirt" where one definition says: |skwərt|, verb [ trans. ], transmit (information) in highly compressed or speeded-up form".

    Sounds like Ballmer is a very educated man!

    Ok, ok, just having fun, I know what you mean...





    squirt ~ To cause to come out in a squirt, of liquids; SYN. force out, squeeze out, eject.



    An instrument out of which a liquid is ejected in a small stream with force.



    A small, quick stream of fluid; a jet.



    These are ALL the definitions that I pulled off my PC. That Balmer guy is just friggin wierd.
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  • Reply 34 of 91
    buzdotsbuzdots Posts: 452member
    Quote:

    That Balmer guy is just friggin wierd.



    That Balmer guy is just friggin UGLY



    The exact reason you don't see pictures of Hugh Hefner nude - he knows who to use to represent his corporation!!!
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  • Reply 35 of 91
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,954member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by monkeyastronaut


    ...you can't send videos through Zune's wireless feature. At least not at launch.



    Add something more to that: why would you want to? Do you want to just sit there for fifteen minutes for a file? Copying a file wirelessly would take 10x to 20x as long as it would with USB or Firewire, and that's assuming low interference and a solid "g" connection. To speed that up, you need wireless "n", meaning Zune 2 or Zune 3, and previous versions of the Zune would only connect at the slow speed.



    With this claim to Zune profitability, is that with or without the chair damage budget?
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  • Reply 36 of 91
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tazznb


    Ummm... which you sure you aren't making this up from a fake dictionary?



    squirt ~ To cause to come out in a squirt, of liquids; SYN. force out, squeeze out, eject.



    An instrument out of which a liquid is ejected in a small stream with force.



    A small, quick stream of fluid; a jet.



    These are ALL the definitions that I pulled off my PC. That Balmer guy is just friggin wierd.



    I can't believe that even the English dictionary on a Mac is more complete ! According to the New Oxford American Dictionary, 2nd edition (standard with Mac OS X Tiger) :



    squirt |skw?rt|

    verb [ trans. ] cause (a liquid ) to be ejected from a small opening in something in a thin, fast stream or jet : she squirted soda into a glass.

    ? cause (a container of liquid) to eject its contents in this way : some youngsters squirted a water pistol in her face.

    ? [ trans. ] wet (someone or something) with a jet or stream of liquid in this way : she squirted me with the juice from her lemon wedge.

    ? [ intrans. ] (of a liquid) be ejected from something in this way.

    ? [ intrans. ] (of an object) move suddenly and unpredictably : he got his glove on the ball but it squirted away.

    ? transmit (information) in highly compressed or speeded-up form.



    noun

    1 a thin stream or small quantity of liquid ejected from something : a quick squirt of perfume.

    ? a small device from which a liquid may be ejected in a thin, fast stream.

    ? a compressed radio signal transmitted at high speed.

    2 informal a person perceived to be insignificant, impudent, or presumptuous : what did he see in this patronizing little squirt?



    DERIVATIVES squirter noun



    ORIGIN Middle English (first recorded as a verb): imitative.
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  • Reply 37 of 91
    tbagginstbaggins Posts: 2,306member
    So Microsoft ISN'T going to lose money on the Zune?? HAHAHAHA, yeah, right.



    Wanna know how Ballmer's lying? His lips are moving.



    Honestly, he should stick to what he does best, which is screaming incoherently and throwing chairs. Wotta douche.



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  • Reply 38 of 91
    nagrommenagromme Posts: 2,834member
    Making fun of Ballmer's stage presence is just childish.



    Nonetheless....



    http://youtube.com/watch?v=m6rqXHX3O48



    Young FrankenSteve
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  • Reply 39 of 91
    If Ballmer proclaims the Zune won't lose money, it's either because he's lying, or because Toshiba was duped.
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  • Reply 40 of 91
    Ballmer is a Douche-Baaag and reminds me of the Chris Farley character who lives in a van down by the river, -only less funny
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