I'm not sure I can recall ever eating an organism from the tertiary level. So, I am going to say that my answer is never. Can you list some of the tertiary predators that are commonly consumed?
No kidding, thuh Freak... I tried to preach this new philosophy to my friends at school today and was shouted down by conservative Christians. Oh well. The world has a lot of maturing to do.
And we can import the meat from healthier countries, so they wouldn't have to eat just bones.
AsLan^, good job, I never thought of this... It would still be cheaper just to eat the humans though, so that gets my vote. Efficiency is everything.
No kidding, thuh Freak... I tried to preach this new philosophy to my friends at school today and was shouted down by conservative Christians. Oh well. The world has a lot of maturing to do.
And we can import the meat from healthier countries, so they wouldn't have to eat just bones.
AsLan^, good job, I never thought of this... It would still be cheaper just to eat the humans though, so that gets my vote. Efficiency is everything.
I've joked about this with my friends at school, especially with the terrible hamburgers that we are served. My friends are all weird thought and go along with the joke. We all agree that it would be a good idea, except for my vegetarian indian friend.
Yeah maimezvous, you must have higher class friends than me. But the really sad part is that I am actually a vegetarian. I think it is wrong to eat animals, yet I think this whole eating humans business is a great idea. Figure that one out..
And has anyone seen the movie Soylent Green? They sort of did this theme in that movie; it's a sci-fi classic so if you haven't seen it you should.
Yeah maimezvous, you must have higher class friends than me. But the really sad part is that I am actually a vegetarian. I think it is wrong to eat animals, yet I think this whole eating humans business is a great idea. Figure that one out..
And has anyone seen the movie Soylent Green? They sort of did this theme in that movie; it's a sci-fi classic so if you haven't seen it you should.
I'm not sure I can recall ever eating an organism from the tertiary level. So, I am going to say that my answer is never. Can you list some of the tertiary predators that are commonly consumed?
There are a few -- sharks, alligators... etc...
We generally don't eat them because they carry an incredibly large amount of toxins at the tertiary level you have had several orders of magnitude increase in concentration of toxins in tissues and taste bad (possibly due to this fact, possibly due to evolutionary pressure due to this fact). We don't eat them because they are bad for us. If we ate only people who died of natural causes (not disease -- since human diseases are human diseases) and were vegetarians their entire lives then we'd be ok, but morally degenerate...
Yea he did. Some guy offered to be killed and eaten and he was killed an eaten. Then the germans couldn't charge the guy with anything because it's apparently not against the law to kill and eat a willing participant. I think he got off free. Germany is fscked up.
What's the problem? He wanted to eat someone, and the other person was a willing participant. If he got off scott-free, then the courts are working. It was a valid contract.
We generally don't eat them because they carry an incredibly large amount of toxins at the tertiary level you have had several orders of magnitude increase in concentration of toxins in tissues and taste bad (possibly due to this fact, possibly due to evolutionary pressure due to this fact). We don't eat them because they are bad for us. If we ate only people who died of natural causes (not disease -- since human diseases are human diseases) and were vegetarians their entire lives then we'd be ok, but morally degenerate...
Yeah I understand. I hadn't really thought about that. It makes complete sense. So it seems like the answer to world hunger is raise children as vegetarians. Then in 70 or so years we'll see this little plan in action.
Yeah I understand. I hadn't really thought about that. It makes complete sense. So it seems like the answer to world hunger is raise children as vegetarians. Then in 70 or so years we'll see this little plan in action.
Quite apart from doing it for the purpose of creating human livestock, raising children as vegetarians -- not necessarily strict vegetarians, but simply far less inclined to eat so much meat as many of us do these days -- would help reduce world hunger, and energy consumption at the same time, as producing meat is a far less efficient way of providing nutrition than producing vegetarian foods.
But as long as we're proposing gross-out solutions to world hunger... let us not forget the vast supply of insect protein out there in the world that most of us completely ignore. If we started using more insect material as food, we'd be quite well fed (okay, depends on what you mean by "well") without having to come near human flesh to supplement our diets.
Slippery slope. What happens when some decide others need your meet more than you need your life? Mandatory euthanasia, abortion? Human processing plants that become very successful leading to political clout and government sponsored kick backs. Trafficking in people is already big business. To sanction it and legitimize it? As if people weren't hard enough on each other without commoditizing their own flesh for food.
Be careful when the dinner bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
After reading this thread, I am of the opinion that we are all from different planets and we are all different species. So, I can't possibly reply to this thread without starting a flame war. Instead, here is a T-shirt that summarizes my view.
Look into it-- world hunger is often a matter of governments and people controlling other people to everyone's detriment, not a lack of world food.
replace "often" with "ALWAYS"
This day and age, the west distributes enough food FOR FREE to feed the world and then some. The problem is with governments not allowing us to distribute the food or governments taking the food and selling it back to their own people, many times undercutting the local growers and thus leading to bankruptcy and government dependency.
It costs virtually nothing to feed a person enough to keep them alive and nourished.
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prions, ladies and gentlemen, prions...
When was the last time anyone ate a tertiary predator on this board?
Anyone?
Anyone?
I'm not sure I can recall ever eating an organism from the tertiary level. So, I am going to say that my answer is never. Can you list some of the tertiary predators that are commonly consumed?
And we can import the meat from healthier countries, so they wouldn't have to eat just bones.
AsLan^, good job, I never thought of this... It would still be cheaper just to eat the humans though, so that gets my vote. Efficiency is everything.
No kidding, thuh Freak... I tried to preach this new philosophy to my friends at school today and was shouted down by conservative Christians. Oh well. The world has a lot of maturing to do.
And we can import the meat from healthier countries, so they wouldn't have to eat just bones.
AsLan^, good job, I never thought of this... It would still be cheaper just to eat the humans though, so that gets my vote. Efficiency is everything.
I've joked about this with my friends at school, especially with the terrible hamburgers that we are served. My friends are all weird thought and go along with the joke. We all agree that it would be a good idea, except for my vegetarian indian friend.
And has anyone seen the movie Soylent Green? They sort of did this theme in that movie; it's a sci-fi classic so if you haven't seen it you should.
Yeah maimezvous, you must have higher class friends than me. But the really sad part is that I am actually a vegetarian. I think it is wrong to eat animals, yet I think this whole eating humans business is a great idea. Figure that one out..
And has anyone seen the movie Soylent Green? They sort of did this theme in that movie; it's a sci-fi classic so if you haven't seen it you should.
I've heard of the movie, but I've never seen it.
I'm not sure I can recall ever eating an organism from the tertiary level. So, I am going to say that my answer is never. Can you list some of the tertiary predators that are commonly consumed?
There are a few -- sharks, alligators... etc...
We generally don't eat them because they carry an incredibly large amount of toxins at the tertiary level you have had several orders of magnitude increase in concentration of toxins in tissues and taste bad (possibly due to this fact, possibly due to evolutionary pressure due to this fact). We don't eat them because they are bad for us. If we ate only people who died of natural causes (not disease -- since human diseases are human diseases) and were vegetarians their entire lives then we'd be ok, but morally degenerate...
Yea he did. Some guy offered to be killed and eaten and he was killed an eaten. Then the germans couldn't charge the guy with anything because it's apparently not against the law to kill and eat a willing participant. I think he got off free. Germany is fscked up.
What's the problem? He wanted to eat someone, and the other person was a willing participant. If he got off scott-free, then the courts are working. It was a valid contract.
There are a few -- sharks, alligators... etc...
We generally don't eat them because they carry an incredibly large amount of toxins at the tertiary level you have had several orders of magnitude increase in concentration of toxins in tissues and taste bad (possibly due to this fact, possibly due to evolutionary pressure due to this fact). We don't eat them because they are bad for us. If we ate only people who died of natural causes (not disease -- since human diseases are human diseases) and were vegetarians their entire lives then we'd be ok, but morally degenerate...
Yeah I understand. I hadn't really thought about that. It makes complete sense. So it seems like the answer to world hunger is raise children as vegetarians. Then in 70 or so years we'll see this little plan in action.
Yeah I understand. I hadn't really thought about that. It makes complete sense. So it seems like the answer to world hunger is raise children as vegetarians. Then in 70 or so years we'll see this little plan in action.
Quite apart from doing it for the purpose of creating human livestock, raising children as vegetarians -- not necessarily strict vegetarians, but simply far less inclined to eat so much meat as many of us do these days -- would help reduce world hunger, and energy consumption at the same time, as producing meat is a far less efficient way of providing nutrition than producing vegetarian foods.
But as long as we're proposing gross-out solutions to world hunger... let us not forget the vast supply of insect protein out there in the world that most of us completely ignore. If we started using more insect material as food, we'd be quite well fed (okay, depends on what you mean by "well") without having to come near human flesh to supplement our diets.
Be careful when the dinner bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
But shetline, how to catch insects in large quantities? That would be difficult...
Mandatory euthanasia...... That would be SCARY......
But shetline, how to catch insects in large quantities? That would be difficult...
It wouldn't be hard to grow them in mass quantities. We could even genetically engineer them to be healthier, or bigger.
http://www.viva.org.uk/shop/images/c...lovemevest.jpg
Hope you can read the caption.
Look into it-- world hunger is often a matter of governments and people controlling other people to everyone's detriment, not a lack of world food.
replace "often" with "ALWAYS"
This day and age, the west distributes enough food FOR FREE to feed the world and then some. The problem is with governments not allowing us to distribute the food or governments taking the food and selling it back to their own people, many times undercutting the local growers and thus leading to bankruptcy and government dependency.
It costs virtually nothing to feed a person enough to keep them alive and nourished.
http://www.viva.org.uk/shop/images/c...lovemevest.jpg
Those girls aren't pretty enough to get me to become a vegetarian.
EDIT: The thread starter is obviously ripping off the "Modest Proposal" essay by Johnathan Swift
Those girls aren't pretty enough to get me to become a vegetarian.
Neither are these...
while humans eating human bits maybe no go.. you could feed em to animals... :P