Gmail is free, but "far better"? Its interface is a joke. That of Yahoo Mail is better, and that of .mac mail is also better.
I like the concept of folderless e-mail but Gmail's implementation/interface is lacking. And Gmail's conversation-style threading is less than ideal for me in too many situations.
Also on Thursday evening, Apple released DVD Studio Pro 4.1.1, which addresses an issue with disc layout for DDP and CMF images on Intel-based Macintosh computers.
The 2.3MB update is recommended for all users of DVD Studio Pro 4.1 and later.
Is there any hint that they are working on high definition disc authoring? They don't seem to support the current standards. The biggest obvious advantage of two optical bays in the Mac Pro is to support drives of both formats for authoring.
Regarding .Mac, it's definitely not for me. I think Apple claimed that they had a million users, which is impressive given how much money that means, but isn't impressive in light of estimates of an installed base of ten to twenty million Macs. The $30 off a new subscription isn't that impressive when they give away the first three months with a new Mac.
Apple Computer has launched its new .Mac webmail interface and also issued an update to its DVD authoring application. Meanwhile, the NASDAQ has agreed to continue listing the company on its index based on certain conditions.
Mail.app-styled .Mac webmail now live …
.Mac is Apple's Internet service, which packs a suite of applications for email, photo sharing, backups, file synching and more. The service costs $99 per year. …
[ View this article at AppleInsider.com ][/url][/c]
.Mac: The more I use it, the more I like it. Certainly like the improvements to mail. As a default, I use Entourage primarily because of my business. However, I do sually use .Mac Mail for sending attachments between 2 and 10 mbs from home. Larger than that, iDisk, my ftp site or faster than all others, there is nothing better than Skype (especially for a one offs). Price is right. Tried the free stuff, but I feel safer with an establish organization such as Apple. You do get what you pay for.
As for DVD Studio Pro 4.1.1; I have no need for it or any other like app at this time. To comment as such would be conjecture, ill-imformed and ludicrous.
But AppleInsider, keep up the Reviews; great place to start if I am ever looking for assistance and direction.
And Gmail's conversation-style threading is less than ideal for me in too many situations.
I love Gmail's conversation-style threading! One subject title covers the entire conversation. It is a very elegant solution from Google, a lot less annoying than Apple's cascade of Re:'s.
It is great that Apple let's you order your messages by date, but they should consider a conversation (a group of messages related to one subject) as a whole, i/o mixing them all up. It's confusing me a lot
Junk mail filtering seems to come and go with .Mac. You are right, I have been flooded the past few weeks with crap.
you're not alone. i have seen a sudden upsurge in spam the past few weeks, and leo laporte and the others on macbreak weekly have also mentioned a strange surge in spam recently. the annoying thing is i do the right thing every time, and forward the spam to spam@mac.com, with full headers, and even though the spam all seems to be almost EXACTLY the same (same screwed up spelling, same general phrasing and almost always very similar subject lines), apple's spam filtering can't seem to spot it. once every 50-100 spam messages i send to them with full headers gets an auto-reply of "thanks for letting us know. make sure you're sending the full headers, too" message. i know i have junk mail filtering on the client end, but some of this stuff is SO cookie-cutter, i just do not understand why it's not being intercepted before it ever hits me.
and don't even get me started on the message that have an embedded html image. i just bounce those back, hoping my e-mail will get removed from some spam list as "out of order" someday.
and i am really curious what will happen with backup, as it has been lambasted and raked over the coals repeatedly, and with the advent of time machine, once wonders how the two will work together, if at all. if they remove backup, and virex has been officially dead ever since tiger came out, $100 a year is getting pricey for renewal for essentially disk space and an e-mail address. though i guess i could get a discount if i just hunted around a bit, but they used to make .mac worth it just from the freebie shareware they gave out. remember those days? then it dwindled to a trickle and then gone. i suspect they had to field service questions fro the freebies they gave out (even though they told people to direct their questions to the manufacturers), so maybe that's what killed all the cool software freebies. heck, i wish they'd have a yearly week freebie giveaway where they give away free licenses to the ADA winners in the shareware categories, and discounts on the larger commercial apps.
I love Gmail's conversation-style threading! One subject title covers the entire conversation. It is a very elegant solution from Google, a lot less annoying than Apple's cascade of Re:'s.
Gmail may be an elegant solution for you but I have some specific reasons why it isn't for me although it might be with certain alternatives for viewing/managing messages.
In longer threads it can be challenging to quickly find the exact parent message of a reply with Gmail and Apple Mail compared to other clients (e.g. Mulberry, mutt) that have a more structured visualization of threads (which I prefer). Plus (AFAIK) you can't label a single message within a Gmail conversation.
Gmail just isn't comfortable or efficient enough for me with the volume and type of mail I send/receive. Same's true for every webmail service I've tried even if they have certain features I'm quite fond of.
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It is great that Apple let's you order your messages by date, but they should consider a conversation (a group of messages related to one subject) as a whole, i/o mixing them all up. It's confusing me a lot
"View > Organize by Thread" enables a poorly implemented threaded view in Apple Mail. One problem is there's only a single parent message for every reply in a thread. And unrelated messages with the same Subject header can mistakenly end up under a single thread. And IMAP server-side threading is unsupported.
nowadys Apple's iPhone and iPod touch support Gmail push e-mail and allow them to synchronize e-mail, calendars and contacts with a Microsoft Exchange Server and various other
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Yes, but I use it to collect my e-mail only... I use Mail to read it, and it's free. That's what's so great about it.
When it works, and doesn't somehow direct important emails into a random abyss labeled "beta," then yes. :P
Gmail is free, but "far better"? Its interface is a joke. That of Yahoo Mail is better, and that of .mac mail is also better.
I like the concept of folderless e-mail but Gmail's implementation/interface is lacking. And Gmail's conversation-style threading is less than ideal for me in too many situations.
DVD Studio Pro 4.1.1
Also on Thursday evening, Apple released DVD Studio Pro 4.1.1, which addresses an issue with disc layout for DDP and CMF images on Intel-based Macintosh computers.
The 2.3MB update is recommended for all users of DVD Studio Pro 4.1 and later.
Is there any hint that they are working on high definition disc authoring? They don't seem to support the current standards. The biggest obvious advantage of two optical bays in the Mac Pro is to support drives of both formats for authoring.
Regarding .Mac, it's definitely not for me. I think Apple claimed that they had a million users, which is impressive given how much money that means, but isn't impressive in light of estimates of an installed base of ten to twenty million Macs. The $30 off a new subscription isn't that impressive when they give away the first three months with a new Mac.
Apple Computer has launched its new .Mac webmail interface and also issued an update to its DVD authoring application. Meanwhile, the NASDAQ has agreed to continue listing the company on its index based on certain conditions.
Mail.app-styled .Mac webmail now live …
.Mac is Apple's Internet service, which packs a suite of applications for email, photo sharing, backups, file synching and more. The service costs $99 per year. …
[ View this article at AppleInsider.com ][/url][/c]
.Mac: The more I use it, the more I like it. Certainly like the improvements to mail. As a default, I use Entourage primarily because of my business. However, I do sually use .Mac Mail for sending attachments between 2 and 10 mbs from home. Larger than that, iDisk, my ftp site or faster than all others, there is nothing better than Skype (especially for a one offs). Price is right. Tried the free stuff, but I feel safer with an establish organization such as Apple. You do get what you pay for.
As for DVD Studio Pro 4.1.1; I have no need for it or any other like app at this time. To comment as such would be conjecture, ill-imformed and ludicrous.
But AppleInsider, keep up the Reviews; great place to start if I am ever looking for assistance and direction.
And Gmail's conversation-style threading is less than ideal for me in too many situations.
I love Gmail's conversation-style threading! One subject title covers the entire conversation. It is a very elegant solution from Google, a lot less annoying than Apple's cascade of Re:'s.
It is great that Apple let's you order your messages by date, but they should consider a conversation (a group of messages related to one subject) as a whole, i/o mixing them all up. It's confusing me a lot
Junk mail filtering seems to come and go with .Mac. You are right, I have been flooded the past few weeks with crap.
you're not alone. i have seen a sudden upsurge in spam the past few weeks, and leo laporte and the others on macbreak weekly have also mentioned a strange surge in spam recently. the annoying thing is i do the right thing every time, and forward the spam to spam@mac.com, with full headers, and even though the spam all seems to be almost EXACTLY the same (same screwed up spelling, same general phrasing and almost always very similar subject lines), apple's spam filtering can't seem to spot it. once every 50-100 spam messages i send to them with full headers gets an auto-reply of "thanks for letting us know. make sure you're sending the full headers, too" message. i know i have junk mail filtering on the client end, but some of this stuff is SO cookie-cutter, i just do not understand why it's not being intercepted before it ever hits me.
and don't even get me started on the message that have an embedded html image. i just bounce those back, hoping my e-mail will get removed from some spam list as "out of order" someday.
and i am really curious what will happen with backup, as it has been lambasted and raked over the coals repeatedly, and with the advent of time machine, once wonders how the two will work together, if at all. if they remove backup, and virex has been officially dead ever since tiger came out, $100 a year is getting pricey for renewal for essentially disk space and an e-mail address. though i guess i could get a discount if i just hunted around a bit, but they used to make .mac worth it just from the freebie shareware they gave out. remember those days? then it dwindled to a trickle and then gone. i suspect they had to field service questions fro the freebies they gave out (even though they told people to direct their questions to the manufacturers), so maybe that's what killed all the cool software freebies. heck, i wish they'd have a yearly week freebie giveaway where they give away free licenses to the ADA winners in the shareware categories, and discounts on the larger commercial apps.
aw heck, i'm dreaming... and rambling.
I love Gmail's conversation-style threading! One subject title covers the entire conversation. It is a very elegant solution from Google, a lot less annoying than Apple's cascade of Re:'s.
Gmail may be an elegant solution for you but I have some specific reasons why it isn't for me although it might be with certain alternatives for viewing/managing messages.
In longer threads it can be challenging to quickly find the exact parent message of a reply with Gmail and Apple Mail compared to other clients (e.g. Mulberry, mutt) that have a more structured visualization of threads (which I prefer). Plus (AFAIK) you can't label a single message within a Gmail conversation.
Gmail just isn't comfortable or efficient enough for me with the volume and type of mail I send/receive. Same's true for every webmail service I've tried even if they have certain features I'm quite fond of.
It is great that Apple let's you order your messages by date, but they should consider a conversation (a group of messages related to one subject) as a whole, i/o mixing them all up. It's confusing me a lot
"View > Organize by Thread" enables a poorly implemented threaded view in Apple Mail. One problem is there's only a single parent message for every reply in a thread. And unrelated messages with the same Subject header can mistakenly end up under a single thread. And IMAP server-side threading is unsupported.