It's definitely that the 30gig is the same price. It's no surprise about the 8gig nano's weak sales.
Alot of people who buy nanos from what I've noticed are either active people who do a lot of running and sports and they really only need a gig or two of music with them at any given time. And most of those people would be fine with a shuffle.
Or (and more likely) they are buying a nano because it's the cheapest ipod they can get that actualy gives them the ipod experience (screen and clickwheel). Where the size and weight are just a nice bonus.
As for the isight, could it be there is an HD isight on the way?
It's definitely that the 30gig is the same price. It's no surprise about the 8gig nano's weak sales.
Alot of people who buy nanos from what I've noticed are either active people who do a lot of running and sports and they really only need a gig or two of music with them at any given time. And most of those people would be fine with a shuffle.
Or (and more likely) they are buying a nano because it's the cheapest ipod they can get that actualy gives them the ipod experience (screen and clickwheel). Where the size and weight are just a nice bonus.
As for the isight, could it be there is an HD isight on the way?
Goodpoint on the HD. Apple does tend to like HD. And yeah the iSight looks silly on top of a monitor but what webcam doesnt. I prefer the iSight to any like round ball-ish looking thing from logitech. Lets just hope apple finds some amazing way of WOWing us all and pleasing everyone.
I bought an 8 GB Nano because it will not skip songs while I run, it interfaces with the Nike +, and it is very small and lightweight. The 2 or 4 GB were too small. Color was not an issue.
For capacity, I already own a 20 GB 3G which I upgraded to 30 GB after the hard drive failed from 3 years of running. Didn't want to go through that again.
Good on EOLing the isight, apple could do so much better. The next one should be cool.
8gb nano not selling? Well apple should assume that considering the emphasis they placed on the 4gb sizes. Make the colours in the larger sizes. Do it and you'll get more sales, especially from women.
I think it's mostly about color. The best tier for color selection happens to be the model that's selling the most.
If the nano hadn't already been black then the black 8GB might have held more allure. As it is, not so much, and often quite the opposite. People missed having color choices, and now those are back, but not in the 8GB model. What's surprising about any of this?
I'm going to be following this closely because of the isight camera. I'm going to be purchasing a Mac Pro likely within the Jan-April timeframe next year. I want a camera for it and won't be going with Apple's own monitors. I'm almost tempted to just purchase a isight now but then again maybe there will be some type of update to the isight. In a worse case I assume there are some 3rd party cams that work with the mac.
Can you provide a URL for where you get this information?
If the sales show the 2GB ahead of the 8GB ahead of the 4GB nano, I would guess that the reason for this is because there are five colours of 4GB and they are each considered as a distict player for tallying (as opposed to the one colour for each of the other two storage sizes).
8GB Black is currently ahead of 2GB Silver at Amazon (updated hourly).
Looks like it's purely colour related. More colour = more 8GB Nano's.
Black = Premium according to Apple marketing this year however 4GB for $50 doesn't feel like much of a premium to me in fact seems more like a bargain!!.
Having observed the market for a while I think we can expect a few more bulletins about how terrible iPod Nano/Shuffle sales and demand are for a bit (deramping), before the analysts change it all round and everyone discovers how great sales and demand were (i.e. after they have loaded up on Apple).
There are significant tradeoffs for the increased screen size and larger capacity of the 30GB iPod as well. Battery life is almost half of the nano's. More importantly for those of us who have been using iPods for a while, you have to be pretty careful with the HD-based iPods. Drop it and you could have a $250 or $350 paperweight. No such worry with the flash-based, no moving parts nano. That's one big reason I'm really looking at a nano when my mini finally dies, although I don't need the 8GB model.
Had Apple made the Product Red iPod in 8GB instead of 4GB, I would have instantly bought at least one and probably three or four (nice to get holiday shopping finished early).
Good on EOLing the isight, apple could do so much better. The next one should be cool.
The iSight must be one of the least updated hardware that Apple has come up with, ever. But given general bandwidth and availability, it still does its job well. The next one should be sexy and cool while taking added advantage if both ends have ADSL2+? Or they might not sell any new iSights at all since it is built into everything except the Mac Pros... Hmmm.... They still would need some for the MacPros and those with PPC non-iSight-integrated Macs...
Had Apple made the Product Red iPod in 8GB instead of 4GB, I would have instantly bought at least one and probably three or four (nice to get holiday shopping finished early).
Taking away the iSight? I hope they're just remodling it. Despite its bulky look compared to the internal iSights I think taking them away altogether is a bad idea. And putting them into the Apple Displays is an okay idea but what about those of us with multiple screens? Or those of us who dont feel like spending 699 for a display? Id prefer my FW iSight cam. Maybe I'm an anomaly. idk.
Any Firewire camcorder would do the same job and give you a lot more flexibility, it would be a little larger though and you have to work on a mount. It could be that they are replacing it with something that's a little smaller, that would be a move that might be considered overdue.
The iSight would work with competitor's displays, but I can't say that it would look right.
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But it just doesnt feel like integrating a cam with their cinema displays is a very apple thing to do.
They've already put it into every mac with a display, so I don't understand what you mean by this.
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Alot of people who buy nanos from what I've noticed are either active people who do a lot of running and sports and they really only need a gig or two of music with them at any given time. And most of those people would be fine with a shuffle.
Or (and more likely) they are buying a nano because it's the cheapest ipod they can get that actualy gives them the ipod experience (screen and clickwheel). Where the size and weight are just a nice bonus.
As for the isight, could it be there is an HD isight on the way?
And that's why I won't buy one. I don't want freakin' black, I want freakin' silver so I can replace my silver mini with a silver skini mini.
I want a pink 8GB nano. Now that's punk.
Black, meh. My goth days are over.
It's definitely that the 30gig is the same price. It's no surprise about the 8gig nano's weak sales.
Alot of people who buy nanos from what I've noticed are either active people who do a lot of running and sports and they really only need a gig or two of music with them at any given time. And most of those people would be fine with a shuffle.
Or (and more likely) they are buying a nano because it's the cheapest ipod they can get that actualy gives them the ipod experience (screen and clickwheel). Where the size and weight are just a nice bonus.
As for the isight, could it be there is an HD isight on the way?
Goodpoint on the HD. Apple does tend to like HD. And yeah the iSight looks silly on top of a monitor but what webcam doesnt. I prefer the iSight to any like round ball-ish looking thing from logitech. Lets just hope apple finds some amazing way of WOWing us all and pleasing everyone.
For capacity, I already own a 20 GB 3G which I upgraded to 30 GB after the hard drive failed from 3 years of running. Didn't want to go through that again.
8gb nano not selling? Well apple should assume that considering the emphasis they placed on the 4gb sizes. Make the colours in the larger sizes. Do it and you'll get more sales, especially from women.
If the nano hadn't already been black then the black 8GB might have held more allure. As it is, not so much, and often quite the opposite. People missed having color choices, and now those are back, but not in the 8GB model. What's surprising about any of this?
Can you provide a URL for where you get this information?
If the sales show the 2GB ahead of the 8GB ahead of the 4GB nano, I would guess that the reason for this is because there are five colours of 4GB and they are each considered as a distict player for tallying (as opposed to the one colour for each of the other two storage sizes).
See for e.g.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers...6?ie=UTF8&pg=1
8GB Black is currently ahead of 2GB Silver at Amazon (updated hourly).
Looks like it's purely colour related. More colour = more 8GB Nano's.
Black = Premium according to Apple marketing this year however 4GB for $50 doesn't feel like much of a premium to me in fact seems more like a bargain!!.
Having observed the market for a while I think we can expect a few more bulletins about how terrible iPod Nano/Shuffle sales and demand are for a bit (deramping), before the analysts change it all round and everyone discovers how great sales and demand were (i.e. after they have loaded up on Apple).
The 8 Gb nano is significantly smaller in physical size, significantly smaller in screen size, significantly smaller in capacity size....
It should be significantly smaller in price.
(If I'm really gonna be pushy, I'd even say that the 4 Gb should be $149.)
Good on EOLing the isight, apple could do so much better. The next one should be cool.
The iSight must be one of the least updated hardware that Apple has come up with, ever. But given general bandwidth and availability, it still does its job well. The next one should be sexy and cool while taking added advantage if both ends have ADSL2+? Or they might not sell any new iSights at all since it is built into everything except the Mac Pros... Hmmm.... They still would need some for the MacPros and those with PPC non-iSight-integrated Macs...
Had Apple made the Product Red iPod in 8GB instead of 4GB, I would have instantly bought at least one and probably three or four (nice to get holiday shopping finished early).
ghet down the shops now!
Taking away the iSight? I hope they're just remodling it. Despite its bulky look compared to the internal iSights I think taking them away altogether is a bad idea. And putting them into the Apple Displays is an okay idea but what about those of us with multiple screens? Or those of us who dont feel like spending 699 for a display? Id prefer my FW iSight cam. Maybe I'm an anomaly. idk.
Any Firewire camcorder would do the same job and give you a lot more flexibility, it would be a little larger though and you have to work on a mount. It could be that they are replacing it with something that's a little smaller, that would be a move that might be considered overdue.
The iSight would work with competitor's displays, but I can't say that it would look right.
But it just doesnt feel like integrating a cam with their cinema displays is a very apple thing to do.
They've already put it into every mac with a display, so I don't understand what you mean by this.