But any regular adult, would not create an account with the username "I WAS THE ONE" and only post in a topic about the "NOW" idea... Your signature too, be part of the pointless concept?
This, I am sorry to say, won't be anything. It will merely be a topic, on a big forum, and will die when you stop bumping it. My username is tomozj, not tomozi. And it is based on my real name, nothing made up
I 100% agree with you smashbrosfan, this isn't going to be a product if none likes it.
The NOW concept, is just a load of wizards thrown together, to make the most annoying thing ever. Apple don't use wizards, for a reason. MS uses wizards, and look how annoying and slow their OS is, as I said before. To connect to a wireless network, you must go through a wizard. On OSX, you just type the SSID into a box and BOOM your in. Easier, faster, and less time consuming.
-tj
WOW! hehehe, First of all, I WAS THE ONE is a nick name I've been using since 1994 when I chat for the first time back in the day. Today that nickname means something for me. So, get real. If you want to know my name just ask for it because it's not a secret. and obvously you don't like my idea. so what? your opinion doesn't mean that it's not revolutionary. Right now NOW got two more believers working on that idea. It is as simple as that. If you see any future on it you join the NOW development, if you don't... cool with US.
I'm Happy with the results, and as I said before: Some people will understand this concept and some people wont. God Bless You. Seriously.
WOW! hehehe, First of all, I WAS THE ONE is a nick name I've been using since 1994 when I chat for the first time back in the day. Today that nickname means something for me. So, get real. If you want to know my name just ask for it because it's not a secret. and obvously you don't like my idea. so what? your opinion doesn't mean that it's not revolutionary. Right now NOW got two more believers working on that idea. It is as simple as that. If you see any future on it you join the NOW development, if you don't... cool with US.
I'm Happy with the results, and as I said before: Some people will understand this concept and some people wont. God Bless You. Seriously.
It's not his opinion of your idea that makes it not revolutionary.
It's the fact that you blatantly copied one of the worst ideas from the 90's.
Ok, after looking at the blog he posted, it sounds to me like he's talking about a simplified, and hierarchical UI. There's something to be said for the idea that, "No one has to ask for instructions to use an ATM."
If the desire is to produce a UI that can be run with a vary basic software suite, and which is essentially dummy proof, then I can see it gaining a limited amount of acceptance. A plugin type of extensibility could be supported to allow third parties to develop their own miniature apps to plug in to the UI.
Apple used to have an interface which, while not going to the extreme of providing a pushbutton for each option and a rigid process flow, did protect the user from most of the confusion that can come from trying to navigate the Finder, when you've never even heard of a Finder before. I forget what the name of the software was, but it saw quite a bit of popularity amongst primary and even occasionally amongst secondary educators. I recall doing repairs on some computers in an elementary school lab that used the interface. The down side, of course, is that the Finder was crippled and locked down, and creative hooligans like myself weren't able to mess with the computer as easily as we wanted to.
Apple eventually abandoned that interface and stuck with the Finder.
It's an interesting idea, and if extensibility could be worked in, I could see it finding a place at nursing homes, airports (actually, I've already seen internet kiosks that do similar things.. not to that level of simplicity though) or any other place where the non-computer-savvy tend to go.
The down side is that the demand WOULD be very limited (possibly more than for a tablet mac), and also it would function as a kind of handicap for those who just don't want to learn computers. Then again, it could provide an interface for people who are too stubborn/lazy/disinterested to try.
On a side note, from observing my own mother, I've noticed that the reason she doesn't know how to do very much, even though we've had Macs in the house since the IIsi, is that she just doesn't explore. She has no real desire to find out what the computer can do, and so she never tries anything new. I think she may also be afraid to screw things up. It's like she views it more as a toaster than as a tool with infinite possibilities. She does her typing (slowly, even though she used to be good with a type writer), her email, and some photo stuff too on my brother's old G4 Titanium PowerBook, and then goes out and spends most of her time in the garden. She might benefit somewhat from a drastically simplified interface, even though it would probably just wind up preventing her from ever being comfortable with the computer.
There's some potential for this guy's idea, and as long as he is realistic about the size of the market that he is aiming to break into (small), and is able to keep his eye on the goal, he has a chance of having fun with with this. It would make a neat Open-Source project.
Oh, I almost forgot to mention Dashcode. that will be more or less handling the extensibility thing. In fact, this project might even be best built as a Dashboard Widget supporting further plugins via dashcode. That would allow programmers to build individual task based modules which could be selected depending on what the particular computer is to be used for. I can definately see a "Mail my Photo" widget getting a lot of downloads from people like my mom (it would take her at LEAST ten to get it installed! j/k )
Leaps happen very VERY rarely, and the best way to get your vision accomplished is usually in small steps, latching onto currently existing technology to do so.
oh, by the way guys, way to be a bunch of dickheads. Being excited about an idea is neither a fault, nor an invitation to be harassed. Society is moved forward by the people who sprout an idea, sink their fangs into it, and don't let go. There's no shame in having an idea which someone has already tried/implimented and either abandoned or failed at. Rather than harping on this guy for being overly enthusiastic, and ill-informed about the history of this particular idea, might it be better to take him seriously and show him what you know, so that he too may know it, and move on to another idea which really is unique and untried?
Is there anyone in this thread (or the whole damn forum, for that matter) who has never made a post and later realized it was a stupid post? You know you've done it. Don't be a turd to others when they do it.
Shame on all of you.
Oh, and the paper clip WAS funny, but still unnecessary.
I joined this concept, it's a good idea, and no it's not a wizard. It's a "overlay" program that makes the already simplified apps of OS X easier.
This concept has a good market in the senior area. Sure, it probably won't be good in about 50 years, when everybody can use a computer. But this is for the here and NOW.
Yeah, ok I just wanted to say.. How awful can you people be?
Seriously, this guy has an idea, he's excited, motivated and passionate about it.
So what if it isn't the next version of OS X, it's people like this guy that end up creating something extraordinary, even if they have a few duds along the way.
I can't believe some of the posts I just read and it pisses me off that I'm a member of the same community.
Put yourself in his shoes, remember how you felt that first time you had an idea you were willing to devote all your time to (if you ever have had an idea).
Encouragement and guidance is one thing, if you think it's a bad idea, tell him ways you think he could improve it, but beating him down is another thing entirely, and it's awful to think there are people in this forum that are like that.
Jimzip
Oh and sorry for bumping this again, but it had to be said. I don't want the next 14 year old kid that pours his heart out here to go commit suicide...
if you want to be part of it you are welcome, and then I'll accept your critic.
thanx anyway...
The word is critique, not critic.
I am editing this post because I initially intended to critique your grammar, but I downloaded and watched the keynote presentation. I agree with MissKitty. This idea may seem simplistic to people who post in this forum who are ubergeeks, but for my 76 year old grandmother (I just bought her a Mac Mini) this idea would rock. My grandmother, like most women her age, has poor eye sight and is not all that computer savvy. This program (under a different name) could truly work in certain settings.
The name is not important as I stipulate in my description (included in the idea folder) I can name it whatever I want, the concept it's copyrighted, and that what's matter... The idea is unique.
You can copyright a design, story, diagram, etc., but you cannot copyright a concept. You can also patent a concept as long as it is boiled down to some clearly defined design or process.
That is a slow-down for any user. A painful thing of the past. Microsoft still use wizards, and look how shit their OS is? You need to enter the real world. This is a goddamn unoriginal idea, and it's been thought over by Apple probably a million times. And they don't release it. Why? Because it sucks!
Sorry, I just had to let you learn the hard way. You didn't listen to any of the other people in this topic, so.
You can copyright a design, story, diagram, etc., but you cannot copyright a concept. You can also patent a concept as long as it is boiled down to some clearly defined design or process.
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But any regular adult, would not create an account with the username "I WAS THE ONE" and only post in a topic about the "NOW" idea... Your signature too, be part of the pointless concept?
This, I am sorry to say, won't be anything. It will merely be a topic, on a big forum, and will die when you stop bumping it. My username is tomozj, not tomozi. And it is based on my real name, nothing made up
I 100% agree with you smashbrosfan, this isn't going to be a product if none likes it.
The NOW concept, is just a load of wizards thrown together, to make the most annoying thing ever. Apple don't use wizards, for a reason. MS uses wizards, and look how annoying and slow their OS is, as I said before. To connect to a wireless network, you must go through a wizard. On OSX, you just type the SSID into a box and BOOM your in. Easier, faster, and less time consuming.
-tj
WOW! hehehe, First of all, I WAS THE ONE is a nick name I've been using since 1994 when I chat for the first time back in the day. Today that nickname means something for me. So, get real. If you want to know my name just ask for it because it's not a secret. and obvously you don't like my idea. so what? your opinion doesn't mean that it's not revolutionary. Right now NOW got two more believers working on that idea. It is as simple as that. If you see any future on it you join the NOW development, if you don't... cool with US.
I'm Happy with the results, and as I said before: Some people will understand this concept and some people wont. God Bless You. Seriously.
WOW! hehehe, First of all, I WAS THE ONE is a nick name I've been using since 1994 when I chat for the first time back in the day. Today that nickname means something for me. So, get real. If you want to know my name just ask for it because it's not a secret. and obvously you don't like my idea. so what? your opinion doesn't mean that it's not revolutionary. Right now NOW got two more believers working on that idea. It is as simple as that. If you see any future on it you join the NOW development, if you don't... cool with US.
I'm Happy with the results, and as I said before: Some people will understand this concept and some people wont. God Bless You. Seriously.
It's not his opinion of your idea that makes it not revolutionary.
It's the fact that you blatantly copied one of the worst ideas from the 90's.
you know what? I'm Done.
In this forum obviously I'm not going to find a partner. Good bye.
It looks like you're trying to leave in a huff.
Would you like to write a letter about it?
If the desire is to produce a UI that can be run with a vary basic software suite, and which is essentially dummy proof, then I can see it gaining a limited amount of acceptance. A plugin type of extensibility could be supported to allow third parties to develop their own miniature apps to plug in to the UI.
Apple used to have an interface which, while not going to the extreme of providing a pushbutton for each option and a rigid process flow, did protect the user from most of the confusion that can come from trying to navigate the Finder, when you've never even heard of a Finder before. I forget what the name of the software was, but it saw quite a bit of popularity amongst primary and even occasionally amongst secondary educators. I recall doing repairs on some computers in an elementary school lab that used the interface. The down side, of course, is that the Finder was crippled and locked down, and creative hooligans like myself weren't able to mess with the computer as easily as we wanted to.
Apple eventually abandoned that interface and stuck with the Finder.
It's an interesting idea, and if extensibility could be worked in, I could see it finding a place at nursing homes, airports (actually, I've already seen internet kiosks that do similar things.. not to that level of simplicity though) or any other place where the non-computer-savvy tend to go.
The down side is that the demand WOULD be very limited (possibly more than for a tablet mac), and also it would function as a kind of handicap for those who just don't want to learn computers. Then again, it could provide an interface for people who are too stubborn/lazy/disinterested to try.
On a side note, from observing my own mother, I've noticed that the reason she doesn't know how to do very much, even though we've had Macs in the house since the IIsi, is that she just doesn't explore. She has no real desire to find out what the computer can do, and so she never tries anything new. I think she may also be afraid to screw things up. It's like she views it more as a toaster than as a tool with infinite possibilities. She does her typing (slowly, even though she used to be good with a type writer), her email, and some photo stuff too on my brother's old G4 Titanium PowerBook, and then goes out and spends most of her time in the garden. She might benefit somewhat from a drastically simplified interface, even though it would probably just wind up preventing her from ever being comfortable with the computer.
There's some potential for this guy's idea, and as long as he is realistic about the size of the market that he is aiming to break into (small), and is able to keep his eye on the goal, he has a chance of having fun with with this. It would make a neat Open-Source project.
Oh, I almost forgot to mention Dashcode. that will be more or less handling the extensibility thing. In fact, this project might even be best built as a Dashboard Widget supporting further plugins via dashcode. That would allow programmers to build individual task based modules which could be selected depending on what the particular computer is to be used for. I can definately see a "Mail my Photo" widget getting a lot of downloads from people like my mom (it would take her at LEAST ten to get it installed! j/k
Leaps happen very VERY rarely, and the best way to get your vision accomplished is usually in small steps, latching onto currently existing technology to do so.
Good luck.
Is there anyone in this thread (or the whole damn forum, for that matter) who has never made a post and later realized it was a stupid post? You know you've done it. Don't be a turd to others when they do it.
Shame on all of you.
Oh, and the paper clip WAS funny, but still unnecessary.
Oh, and the paper clip WAS funny, but still unnecessary.
I knew it was... but the power of the clip overwhelmed my better judgement.
I knew it was... but the power of the clip overwhelmed my better judgement.
Naughty!
This concept has a good market in the senior area. Sure, it probably won't be good in about 50 years, when everybody can use a computer. But this is for the here and NOW.
Seriously, this guy has an idea, he's excited, motivated and passionate about it.
So what if it isn't the next version of OS X, it's people like this guy that end up creating something extraordinary, even if they have a few duds along the way.
I can't believe some of the posts I just read and it pisses me off that I'm a member of the same community.
Put yourself in his shoes, remember how you felt that first time you had an idea you were willing to devote all your time to (if you ever have had an idea).
Encouragement and guidance is one thing, if you think it's a bad idea, tell him ways you think he could improve it, but beating him down is another thing entirely, and it's awful to think there are people in this forum that are like that.
Jimzip
Oh and sorry for bumping this again, but it had to be said. I don't want the next 14 year old kid that pours his heart out here to go commit suicide...
if you want to be part of it you are welcome, and then I'll accept your critic.
thanx anyway...
The word is critique, not critic.
I am editing this post because I initially intended to critique your grammar, but I downloaded and watched the keynote presentation. I agree with MissKitty. This idea may seem simplistic to people who post in this forum who are ubergeeks, but for my 76 year old grandmother (I just bought her a Mac Mini) this idea would rock. My grandmother, like most women her age, has poor eye sight and is not all that computer savvy. This program (under a different name) could truly work in certain settings.
The name is not important as I stipulate in my description (included in the idea folder) I can name it whatever I want, the concept it's copyrighted, and that what's matter... The idea is unique.
You can copyright a design, story, diagram, etc., but you cannot copyright a concept. You can also patent a concept as long as it is boiled down to some clearly defined design or process.
LOL THAT IS THE WORST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN!
That is a slow-down for any user. A painful thing of the past. Microsoft still use wizards, and look how shit their OS is? You need to enter the real world. This is a goddamn unoriginal idea, and it's been thought over by Apple probably a million times. And they don't release it. Why? Because it sucks!
Sorry, I just had to let you learn the hard way. You didn't listen to any of the other people in this topic, so.
-tj
I think he's a kid... let him have his fun.
You can copyright a design, story, diagram, etc., but you cannot copyright a concept. You can also patent a concept as long as it is boiled down to some clearly defined design or process.
That's actually handy to know..
Jimzip
I think he's a kid... let him have his fun.
Aq kid huh? GFYS
That's actually handy to know..
Jimzip
Hey are you *the* JimZip who made the JimZip zip recovery software or just someone who uses it?
Oh look, I'm doing the Time Warp!
Stop bumping old threads.
Aq kid huh? GFYS
Way to prove him wrong. Also it took you this long to come up with that?