Since I have no access to stuff under NDA everything I've read is open to the public via front facing ADC stuff.
If I'm a Developer I'm keenly looking at moving to 10.5 only because I know I'll be able to take advantage of some important tools. Some of my favorite new stuff or updates are.
Calendar Store- Finally any app that needs to maintain a Calendar can utilize Apple's Calendar Store API as the central Hub of Calendar data. I hope this means that they will not have to use the sync features that seemed so problematic in Tiger with iCal.
iChat Theater- I'm not a big chatter for social stuff. Messageboards are fine for me but I do love the new features of iChat with device control and the ability to share a workspace.. Now it's certainly a feature worth using in social and business times.
Core Data- 10x faster which should mean more Developers using it. The next big hope is multiuser support so that networked apps can be easily made. It should be there by 10.6 if not in Leopard
Core Animation/Multithreaded OpenGL- Leopard is probably going to demolish Tiger for UI responsiveness and graphic prowess. Core Animation is more than just superfluous movement of screen elements. I saw some demos where it really made things move nicely and added to the experience.
Spotlight- I'm starting to use Spotlight more and the enhanced search capabilities are going to be a boon. Plus the new interface looks like an improvement.
Enough of the blather. As Gregmightdothat said there are some more geeky things that are interesting that should help us get better performing apps and other things yet would elicit a yawn from someone looking for new featues. The Dev tools have really improved. Interface Builder 3 is heavily revamped. Now is as good a time as any to be developing on the Macintosh.
Spotlight- I'm starting to use Spotlight more and the enhanced search capabilities are going to be a boon. Plus the new interface looks like an improvement.
Having used pcs for several years prior to getting my MBP, it took me a little while to unlock the utility of spotlight. Now I use it frequently and it's difficult for me to work on pcs.
Having used pcs for several years prior to getting my MBP, it took me a little while to unlock the utility of spotlight. Now I use it frequently and it's difficult for me to work on pcs.
Personally Spotlight is a pain to use. I can be looking right at a file in Finder and Spotlight won't find it at all (then again, normally I'm not searching for stuff I'm looking at) but it's just slow, and the most annoying thing it does is Index the Cache. Type in a single digit number of any kind and your results will pop up in the thousands to tens of thousands.
Personally Spotlight is a pain to use. I can be looking right at a file in Finder and Spotlight won't find it at all (then again, normally I'm not searching for stuff I'm looking at) but it's just slow, and the most annoying thing it does is Index the Cache. Type in a single digit number of any kind and your results will pop up in the thousands to tens of thousands.
Go Quicksilver
Sebastian
Go into your pref pane for Spotlight and have it only search the folders that matter to you.
(applications, documents, etc)
If you scale back what it searches for and indexes you're searches will be faster and more helpful.
I don't hate Finder but I'm not really fond of it.
I am a PC and a Mac user. I love both, but most of what I do wither the PC or Mac is move files around. I don't use the search feature *spotlight* beacuse i generally know where my documents are.
Finder doesn't display a tree list quite in a way that is easy to navigate and use. Windows explorer has a better structure IMO. I wish they would make a "VIEW" that is just like Windows Explorer *AND* have an address field at the top so I can type in a path. Somtimes, I get frustrated and go right to Terminal and go thru Unix instead.
If anyone knows of a great replacement for Finder that I could install, please PM me.
Overall with OS X, there are alot of features and 'feels' that both windows and OS X could improve on and some that are missing in each OS.
x Cheers x
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You know I still can't figure out why people despise the Finder so much. The only problem I've ever had with it is not being able to enter a Location Address like in the Explorer, but I quickly didn't care because I found things are never too far away anyways.
I grew up with the Finder since 1987 so I don't dislike it.
My concern about Leopard (getting back on topic) is that I still use several "must have" Classic Apps and I don't suppose for a moment that Leopard will continue to support Classic.
Maybe someone here knows the answer to this one. I saw a blurb in MacLife that Leopard wouldn't support Classic, so I've been trying to track that down online to confirm it. No use. I did see an article from a developer a year ago saying that Leopard would only support Classic 9.x and beyond. Does anyone have the real scoop, or do we have to wait 'til it's released to know for sure?
And I'm ready to complete the switch as soon as Helix finishes its conversion. It runs my business and my clients' businesses, and there isn't a database on OS X to compete with it yet in terms of application development environment (certainly not 4D or Filemaker).
I don't hate Finder but I'm not really fond of it.
I am a PC and a Mac user. I love both, but most of what I do wither the PC or Mac is move files around. I don't use the search feature *spotlight* beacuse i generally know where my documents are.
But do you know off the top of your head what's *in* all of those files? If so, you have either a stellar memory, or not enough files. I use Spotlight for searching through my library of a few hundred research papers. "Now which paper had the comparison of FUJABA and PEC again?" I know *where* those files are, I just don't know *which files* they are. With tens of thousands of files, knowing where they are located is just part of the solution.
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Finder doesn't display a tree list quite in a way that is easy to navigate and use. Windows explorer has a better structure IMO. I wish they would make a "VIEW" that is just like Windows Explorer *AND* have an address field at the top so I can type in a path. Somtimes, I get frustrated and go right to Terminal and go thru Unix instead.
Wow... you... *like* tree view? I can't stand it. It's the worst bit of working in Windows or Windows apps. Eclipse uses it everywhere, and it's just... gack. It's okay if you have just a few things to look at, but deeply nested items? Click. Scroll. Click. Scroll. Scroll. Scroll. Click. Scroll. Repeat.
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If anyone knows of a great replacement for Finder that I could install, please PM me.
PathFinder is well regarded.
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Overall with OS X, there are alot of features and 'feels' that both windows and OS X could improve on and some that are missing in each OS.
Wow... you... *like* tree view? I can't stand it. It's the worst bit of working in Windows or Windows apps. Eclipse uses it everywhere, and it's just... gack. It's okay if you have just a few things to look at, but deeply nested items? Click. Scroll. Click. Scroll. Scroll. Scroll. Click. Scroll. Repeat.
I agree. Without column view, it takes me much longer to do things in Windows Explorer.
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Originally Posted by Kickaha
PathFinder is well regarded.
I tried it out and it seemed to have a lot of nice features but I found it to be really unstable. One thing about the Finder is that it doesn't seem to crash all that much for me.
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If I'm a Developer I'm keenly looking at moving to 10.5 only because I know I'll be able to take advantage of some important tools. Some of my favorite new stuff or updates are.
Calendar Store- Finally any app that needs to maintain a Calendar can utilize Apple's Calendar Store API as the central Hub of Calendar data. I hope this means that they will not have to use the sync features that seemed so problematic in Tiger with iCal.
iChat Theater- I'm not a big chatter for social stuff. Messageboards are fine for me but I do love the new features of iChat with device control and the ability to share a workspace.. Now it's certainly a feature worth using in social and business times.
Core Data- 10x faster which should mean more Developers using it. The next big hope is multiuser support so that networked apps can be easily made. It should be there by 10.6 if not in Leopard
Core Animation/Multithreaded OpenGL- Leopard is probably going to demolish Tiger for UI responsiveness and graphic prowess. Core Animation is more than just superfluous movement of screen elements. I saw some demos where it really made things move nicely and added to the experience.
Spotlight- I'm starting to use Spotlight more and the enhanced search capabilities are going to be a boon. Plus the new interface looks like an improvement.
Enough of the blather. As Gregmightdothat said there are some more geeky things that are interesting that should help us get better performing apps and other things yet would elicit a yawn from someone looking for new featues. The Dev tools have really improved. Interface Builder 3 is heavily revamped. Now is as good a time as any to be developing on the Macintosh.
Spotlight- I'm starting to use Spotlight more and the enhanced search capabilities are going to be a boon. Plus the new interface looks like an improvement.
Having used pcs for several years prior to getting my MBP, it took me a little while to unlock the utility of spotlight. Now I use it frequently and it's difficult for me to work on pcs.
Having used pcs for several years prior to getting my MBP, it took me a little while to unlock the utility of spotlight. Now I use it frequently and it's difficult for me to work on pcs.
Personally Spotlight is a pain to use. I can be looking right at a file in Finder and Spotlight won't find it at all (then again, normally I'm not searching for stuff I'm looking at) but it's just slow, and the most annoying thing it does is Index the Cache. Type in a single digit number of any kind and your results will pop up in the thousands to tens of thousands.
Go Quicksilver
Sebastian
Personally Spotlight is a pain to use. I can be looking right at a file in Finder and Spotlight won't find it at all (then again, normally I'm not searching for stuff I'm looking at) but it's just slow, and the most annoying thing it does is Index the Cache. Type in a single digit number of any kind and your results will pop up in the thousands to tens of thousands.
Go Quicksilver
Sebastian
Go into your pref pane for Spotlight and have it only search the folders that matter to you.
(applications, documents, etc)
If you scale back what it searches for and indexes you're searches will be faster and more helpful.
Go into your pref pane for Spotlight and have it only search the folders that matter to you.
(applications, documents, etc)
If you scale back what it searches for and indexes you're searches will be faster and more helpful.
Thanks, but Quicksilver works fine for me
Sebastian
I am a PC and a Mac user. I love both, but most of what I do wither the PC or Mac is move files around. I don't use the search feature *spotlight* beacuse i generally know where my documents are.
Finder doesn't display a tree list quite in a way that is easy to navigate and use. Windows explorer has a better structure IMO. I wish they would make a "VIEW" that is just like Windows Explorer *AND* have an address field at the top so I can type in a path. Somtimes, I get frustrated and go right to Terminal and go thru Unix instead.
If anyone knows of a great replacement for Finder that I could install, please PM me.
Overall with OS X, there are alot of features and 'feels' that both windows and OS X could improve on and some that are missing in each OS.
x Cheers x
You know I still can't figure out why people despise the Finder so much. The only problem I've ever had with it is not being able to enter a Location Address like in the Explorer, but I quickly didn't care because I found things are never too far away anyways.
So why do people hate it?
Sebastian
I grew up with the Finder since 1987 so I don't dislike it.
My concern about Leopard (getting back on topic) is that I still use several "must have" Classic Apps and I don't suppose for a moment that Leopard will continue to support Classic.
Maybe someone here knows the answer to this one. I saw a blurb in MacLife that Leopard wouldn't support Classic, so I've been trying to track that down online to confirm it. No use. I did see an article from a developer a year ago saying that Leopard would only support Classic 9.x and beyond. Does anyone have the real scoop, or do we have to wait 'til it's released to know for sure?
And I'm ready to complete the switch as soon as Helix finishes its conversion. It runs my business and my clients' businesses, and there isn't a database on OS X to compete with it yet in terms of application development environment (certainly not 4D or Filemaker).
chuck
I don't hate Finder but I'm not really fond of it.
I am a PC and a Mac user. I love both, but most of what I do wither the PC or Mac is move files around. I don't use the search feature *spotlight* beacuse i generally know where my documents are.
But do you know off the top of your head what's *in* all of those files? If so, you have either a stellar memory, or not enough files.
Finder doesn't display a tree list quite in a way that is easy to navigate and use. Windows explorer has a better structure IMO. I wish they would make a "VIEW" that is just like Windows Explorer *AND* have an address field at the top so I can type in a path. Somtimes, I get frustrated and go right to Terminal and go thru Unix instead.
Wow... you... *like* tree view? I can't stand it. It's the worst bit of working in Windows or Windows apps. Eclipse uses it everywhere, and it's just... gack. It's okay if you have just a few things to look at, but deeply nested items? Click. Scroll. Click. Scroll. Scroll. Scroll. Click. Scroll. Repeat.
If anyone knows of a great replacement for Finder that I could install, please PM me.
PathFinder is well regarded.
Overall with OS X, there are alot of features and 'feels' that both windows and OS X could improve on and some that are missing in each OS.
True.
Wow... you... *like* tree view? I can't stand it. It's the worst bit of working in Windows or Windows apps. Eclipse uses it everywhere, and it's just... gack. It's okay if you have just a few things to look at, but deeply nested items? Click. Scroll. Click. Scroll. Scroll. Scroll. Click. Scroll. Repeat.
I agree. Without column view, it takes me much longer to do things in Windows Explorer.
PathFinder is well regarded.
I tried it out and it seemed to have a lot of nice features but I found it to be really unstable. One thing about the Finder is that it doesn't seem to crash all that much for me.