I don't really understand how this thing works to be honest. I have a wireless N Linksys router but how is TV going to detect my iTunes which is running on the wired lan side of the router? The PC doesn't have its own wireless adapter.
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The TV is 802.11 compliant. You set it up to connect to your wireless N linksys router, you set up iTunes to sync what you want, and the setup is complete. It's just like networking two computers, only simpler. Devices can talk over networks, and most easily when they are on the same network (i.e. a single router, in most cases). Ethernet and 802.11 standards both us TCP/IP standards, and work the same if both devices are wired, wireless, or any combination of the two.
The ?TV is 802.11 compliant. You set it up to connect to your wireless N linksys router, you set up iTunes to sync what you want, and the setup is complete. It's just like networking two computers, only simpler. Devices can talk over networks, and most easily when they are on the same network (i.e. a single router, in most cases). Ethernet and 802.11 standards both us TCP/IP standards, and work the same if both devices are wired, wireless, or any combination of the two.
Nice, the PC gets it DHCP from the cable company and the Linksys is leasing out 192.168.1.xx plus the wireless firewall is set at default which isn't going to let the two computers talk to one another, I don't think, except on port 80. I know I can make it work but how the heck is the average Best Buy consumer going to do it?
That is a good price for a HDMI cable, most of them the I have seen are start out around $40 and top out at over $100. They can't be that different than Apple's, at least n the low end.
Yeah, that really cheap.
I was thinking along the lines of a premier quality version to compete with the lower cost Monster Cable, and other hi end companies.
Nice, the PC gets it DHCP from the cable company and the Linksys is leasing out 192.168.1.xx plus the wireless firewall is set at default which isn't going to let the two computers talk to one another, I don't think, except on port 80. I know I can make it work but how the heck is the average Best Buy consumer going to do it?
By default, almost all wireless routers allow wireless devices to access the wired network with the same privileges. If you have your PC getting DHCP from the cable company, I'm not sure why you have it set up that way. It is much easier to allow the Router to get the DHCP from the cable co and then hand out local area addresses to all of the devices on your network. This is how most everyone (both cable and DSL customers) are set up. And I'm not just assuming that, I work tech support for Dell (I hate being on the dark side, but Apple doesn't have a call center here and I need to pay for school) and I've never had someone going through a router who's PC was getting the IP address from the ISP.
By default, almost all wireless routers allow wireless devices to access the wired network with the same privileges. If you have your PC getting DHCP from the cable company, I'm not sure why you have it set up that way. It is much easier to allow the Router to get the DHCP from the cable co and then hand out local area addresses to all of the devices on your network. This is how most everyone (both cable and DSL customers) are set up. And I'm not just assuming that, I work tech support for Dell (I hate being on the dark side, but Apple doesn't have a call center here and I need to pay for school) and I've never had someone going through a router who's PC was getting the IP address from the ISP.
I guess that's why they call it a wireless router with a 4 port switch. Otherwise nothing would prevent drive-by hacking.
Yeah, I wish I could tell anyone with home theater equipment that you get absolutely NO added benefit by paying more for a digital cable. A $20 HDMI cable will transfer just as good of a signal as a $100 one. A $5 RCA cable will transfer digital audio just as well as a $50 one. Assuming you take care of it, a cheap optical cable will transfer digital audio just as well as an expensive one.
Yeah, I wish I could tell anyone with home theater equipment that you get absolutely NO added benefit by paying more for a digital cable. A $20 HDMI cable will transfer just as good of a signal as a $100 one. A $5 RCA cable will transfer digital audio just as well as a $50 one. Assuming you take care of it, a cheap optical cable will transfer digital audio just as well as an expensive one.
That seems like a slap in the face to CompUSA - who has an Apple mini-store and has for years. Unless CompUSA will have them at the same time and someone just felt like mentioning that Best Buy will have them.
- Jasen.
CompUSA is in the process of closing over half its stores. Not exactly the most positive of places for a new product launch.
Yeah, I wish I could tell anyone with home theater equipment that you get absolutely NO added benefit by paying more for a digital cable. A $20 HDMI cable will transfer just as good of a signal as a $100 one. A $5 RCA cable will transfer digital audio just as well as a $50 one. Assuming you take care of it, a cheap optical cable will transfer digital audio just as well as an expensive one.
Best Buy's digital cable prices are beyond stupid, but apparently the reasoning is that if you just dropped three grand on a plasma you won't blink at being told you have to pay $100 for cable "if you want to get the best out of it".
On the other hand, it means I can resell stuff to my clients for less than half of what BB charges and still have a pretty good markup, while saving them a ton over what they expected to pay. Win-win!
Best Buy's digital cable prices are beyond stupid, but apparently the reasoning is that if you just dropped three grand on a plasma you won't blink at being told you have to pay $100 for cable "if you want to get the best out of it".
On the other hand, it means I can resell stuff to my clients for less than half of what BB charges and still have a pretty good markup, while saving them a ton over what they expected to pay. Win-win!
That's just as evil as BB. Taking advantage of people's ignorance
Yeah, I wish I could tell anyone with home theater equipment that you get absolutely NO added benefit by paying more for a digital cable. A $20 HDMI cable will transfer just as good of a signal as a $100 one. A $5 RCA cable will transfer digital audio just as well as a $50 one. Assuming you take care of it, a cheap optical cable will transfer digital audio just as well as an expensive one.
Oh, you are so full of crap! The next thing you'll be telling me is that my gold-plated $30 USB cables are just as good as a $3 cable from NewEgg! And we know that's not the case! The gold-plated one makes sure that my connectiion to the printer is as pure and complete as possible, meaning my printouts come out crisper and clearer then the rest of you (its like I get 610 dpi, instead of 600dpi!)
At least that's what the guy at Best Buy told me...
Oh, you are so full of crap! The next thing you'll be telling me is that my gold-plated $30 USB cables are just as good as a $3 cable from NewEgg! And we know that's not the case! The gold-plated one makes sure that my connectiion to the printer is as pure and complete as possible, meaning my printouts come out crisper and clearer then the rest of you (its like I get 610 dpi, instead of 600dpi!)
At least that's what the guy at Best Buy told me...
Notwithstanding the irony, aren't all USB-connectors gold plated? I guess there's a few nickel connectors or something, but they seem. to be the exception
That's just as evil as BB. Taking advantage of people's ignorance
Uh, mark-up over my costs for materials I put in the time to acquire and have the expertise to carefully evaluate and choose is neither "evil" or "taking advantage of people's ignorance", it's called "doing business".
My clients don't really expect me to point them to a web page and say, "there you go, that's your best deal, go ahead and get that." They pay me to take care of all that.
"This just in... Best Buy to carry Apple TV in ALL of its' retail locations!
On the down side, early reports indicate that Best Buy sales staff are unsure as to, quote, "what an Apple TV is", unquote, and there have been reported instances of Best Buy staff telling customers to buy an apparently non-existent product, "PC TV", instead. More on this as it becomes available."
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I don't really understand how this thing works to be honest. I have a wireless N Linksys router but how is TV going to detect my iTunes which is running on the wired lan side of the router? The PC doesn't have its own wireless adapter.
m
The TV is 802.11 compliant. You set it up to connect to your wireless N linksys router, you set up iTunes to sync what you want, and the setup is complete. It's just like networking two computers, only simpler. Devices can talk over networks, and most easily when they are on the same network (i.e. a single router, in most cases). Ethernet and 802.11 standards both us TCP/IP standards, and work the same if both devices are wired, wireless, or any combination of the two.
It should work if it's on the same router
Which is exactly what the Geek Squad is going to tell me at BB. it SHOULD work.
Apple has branded their own and it's only $19.95.
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...lm=TL951LL%2FA
It's actually not Apple Branded. It's Xtreme Mac branded. Apple just sells them.
http://www.xtrememac.com/audio/av_cables/hdmi.php
EDIT: Which is probably why there wasn't any included. Apple doesn't make them... yet. Maybe in the future they will
Which is exactly what the Geek Squad is going to tell me at BB. it SHOULD work.
it WILL work
The ?TV is 802.11 compliant. You set it up to connect to your wireless N linksys router, you set up iTunes to sync what you want, and the setup is complete. It's just like networking two computers, only simpler. Devices can talk over networks, and most easily when they are on the same network (i.e. a single router, in most cases). Ethernet and 802.11 standards both us TCP/IP standards, and work the same if both devices are wired, wireless, or any combination of the two.
Nice, the PC gets it DHCP from the cable company and the Linksys is leasing out 192.168.1.xx plus the wireless firewall is set at default which isn't going to let the two computers talk to one another, I don't think, except on port 80. I know I can make it work but how the heck is the average Best Buy consumer going to do it?
That is a good price for a HDMI cable, most of them the I have seen are start out around $40 and top out at over $100. They can't be that different than Apple's, at least n the low end.
Yeah, that really cheap.
I was thinking along the lines of a premier quality version to compete with the lower cost Monster Cable, and other hi end companies.
Nice, the PC gets it DHCP from the cable company and the Linksys is leasing out 192.168.1.xx plus the wireless firewall is set at default which isn't going to let the two computers talk to one another, I don't think, except on port 80. I know I can make it work but how the heck is the average Best Buy consumer going to do it?
By default, almost all wireless routers allow wireless devices to access the wired network with the same privileges. If you have your PC getting DHCP from the cable company, I'm not sure why you have it set up that way. It is much easier to allow the Router to get the DHCP from the cable co and then hand out local area addresses to all of the devices on your network. This is how most everyone (both cable and DSL customers) are set up. And I'm not just assuming that, I work tech support for Dell (I hate being on the dark side, but Apple doesn't have a call center here and I need to pay for school) and I've never had someone going through a router who's PC was getting the IP address from the ISP.
Yeah, that really cheap.
I was thinking along the lines of a premier quality version to compete with the lower cost Monster Cable, and other hi end companies.
Yeah, getting into the snake oil cable business is profitable.
By default, almost all wireless routers allow wireless devices to access the wired network with the same privileges. If you have your PC getting DHCP from the cable company, I'm not sure why you have it set up that way. It is much easier to allow the Router to get the DHCP from the cable co and then hand out local area addresses to all of the devices on your network. This is how most everyone (both cable and DSL customers) are set up. And I'm not just assuming that, I work tech support for Dell (I hate being on the dark side, but Apple doesn't have a call center here and I need to pay for school) and I've never had someone going through a router who's PC was getting the IP address from the ISP.
I guess that's why they call it a wireless router with a 4 port switch. Otherwise nothing would prevent drive-by hacking.
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Yeah, I wish I could tell anyone with home theater equipment that you get absolutely NO added benefit by paying more for a digital cable. A $20 HDMI cable will transfer just as good of a signal as a $100 one. A $5 RCA cable will transfer digital audio just as well as a $50 one. Assuming you take care of it, a cheap optical cable will transfer digital audio just as well as an expensive one.
preach it!
It's actually not Apple Branded. It's Xtreme Mac branded. Apple just sells them.
http://www.xtrememac.com/audio/av_cables/hdmi.php
EDIT: Which is probably why there wasn't any included. Apple doesn't make them... yet. Maybe in the future they will
You are absolutely correct, my apologizes. I wonder if BB will carry the cables as well? Doubtful but they should.
That seems like a slap in the face to CompUSA - who has an Apple mini-store and has for years. Unless CompUSA will have them at the same time and someone just felt like mentioning that Best Buy will have them.
- Jasen.
CompUSA is in the process of closing over half its stores. Not exactly the most positive of places for a new product launch.
Yeah, I wish I could tell anyone with home theater equipment that you get absolutely NO added benefit by paying more for a digital cable. A $20 HDMI cable will transfer just as good of a signal as a $100 one. A $5 RCA cable will transfer digital audio just as well as a $50 one. Assuming you take care of it, a cheap optical cable will transfer digital audio just as well as an expensive one.
Best Buy's digital cable prices are beyond stupid, but apparently the reasoning is that if you just dropped three grand on a plasma you won't blink at being told you have to pay $100 for cable "if you want to get the best out of it".
On the other hand, it means I can resell stuff to my clients for less than half of what BB charges and still have a pretty good markup, while saving them a ton over what they expected to pay. Win-win!
Best Buy's digital cable prices are beyond stupid, but apparently the reasoning is that if you just dropped three grand on a plasma you won't blink at being told you have to pay $100 for cable "if you want to get the best out of it".
On the other hand, it means I can resell stuff to my clients for less than half of what BB charges and still have a pretty good markup, while saving them a ton over what they expected to pay. Win-win!
That's just as evil as BB. Taking advantage of people's ignorance
Yeah, I wish I could tell anyone with home theater equipment that you get absolutely NO added benefit by paying more for a digital cable. A $20 HDMI cable will transfer just as good of a signal as a $100 one. A $5 RCA cable will transfer digital audio just as well as a $50 one. Assuming you take care of it, a cheap optical cable will transfer digital audio just as well as an expensive one.
Oh, you are so full of crap! The next thing you'll be telling me is that my gold-plated $30 USB cables are just as good as a $3 cable from NewEgg! And we know that's not the case! The gold-plated one makes sure that my connectiion to the printer is as pure and complete as possible, meaning my printouts come out crisper and clearer then the rest of you (its like I get 610 dpi, instead of 600dpi!)
At least that's what the guy at Best Buy told me...
Oh, you are so full of crap! The next thing you'll be telling me is that my gold-plated $30 USB cables are just as good as a $3 cable from NewEgg! And we know that's not the case! The gold-plated one makes sure that my connectiion to the printer is as pure and complete as possible, meaning my printouts come out crisper and clearer then the rest of you (its like I get 610 dpi, instead of 600dpi!)
At least that's what the guy at Best Buy told me...
Notwithstanding the irony, aren't all USB-connectors gold plated? I guess there's a few nickel connectors or something, but they seem. to be the exception
That's just as evil as BB. Taking advantage of people's ignorance
Uh, mark-up over my costs for materials I put in the time to acquire and have the expertise to carefully evaluate and choose is neither "evil" or "taking advantage of people's ignorance", it's called "doing business".
My clients don't really expect me to point them to a web page and say, "there you go, that's your best deal, go ahead and get that." They pay me to take care of all that.
On the down side, early reports indicate that Best Buy sales staff are unsure as to, quote, "what an Apple TV is", unquote, and there have been reported instances of Best Buy staff telling customers to buy an apparently non-existent product, "PC TV", instead. More on this as it becomes available."
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