DRM-free music seen spurring iPod demand

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  • Reply 21 of 38
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Clive At Five View Post


    It doesn't take a certified analyst to figure this out...-Clive



    I've got news for you: these people are not certified!
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  • Reply 22 of 38
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    Everyone say "thank you!" to Europe.
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  • Reply 23 of 38
    irelandireland Posts: 17,802member
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    Originally Posted by sthiede View Post


    there will never be a totally DRM free iTunes, end of story.



    You seem overly confident in your point.
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  • Reply 24 of 38
    vineavinea Posts: 5,585member
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    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Yet another reason that the iTS will draw even more customers while pulling customers from the sole sucking megacenters.



    Walmart likes fish? Sorry, just couldn't resist.



    Vinea
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  • Reply 25 of 38
    macgregormacgregor Posts: 1,434member
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    Originally Posted by groverat View Post


    Everyone say "thank you!" to Europe.



    Agreed.



    Norway helped change EMI's mind and we now know that Jobs agreed with eliminating DRM for years.



    So both the DRM-hating doomsdayers can take a breath and the Euro-hating jingoists can take a reality check.



    The market will continue to mature and striking the balance of free enterprise and intelligent regulations will make it all work.



    Jobs had the business quote of the year, "Life is a balance between total freedom and simplicity. And we try to strike the local maximums, where we can give people what they tell us and what we think they want."



    The same is for good governance.
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  • Reply 26 of 38
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
    Bwahahahahaha!!! ...to all of those who think Apple will remain on the sidelines for many years to come...
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  • Reply 27 of 38
    gotgot Posts: 3member
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    Originally Posted by TBaggins View Post


    3- The greater space required to store high-quality 256 kbps tracks helps push consumers upmarket to higher-capacity iPods, and will push them to upgrade sooner.



    How about Apple releasing higher capacity iPods so store all those twice-as-big files? ...and soon! I just want 2-4 gig iPod Shuffles.
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  • Reply 28 of 38
    vineavinea Posts: 5,585member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GOT View Post


    How about Apple releasing higher capacity iPods so store all those twice-as-big files? ...and soon! I just want 2-4 gig iPod Shuffles.



    Soon. Samsung is ramping production of higher density flash sometime this qtr unless it has slipped.



    The last time Samsung released new memory (June 2006) Apple followed with new iPods 3 months later...



    Vinea
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  • Reply 29 of 38
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,954member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by unother View Post


    AAC is not completely open however (it requires a patent license for codecs), and thus support is not universal.



    The only part different than MP3 is that support is not universal. As was noted, MP3 is patent encumbered too. The Debian Linux distribution was aware of this many years ago and avoided including encoders for that reason. Apple's encoder in iTunes is licensed from Fraunhofer. I think there is another company that claims rights to parts of MP3 as well, and is starting to make its rounds trying to sue businesses that use it.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    The iPod has a great recording ability, it is just a matter of adding a tiny white add-on from Griffin. The recordings are immediately available iPod for play back or ripping to CD or whatever. Better an iPod with an add-on than some piece of junk with a mic built in.



    I think those other units can record through the headphone jacks too.



    Linux for iPod includes a recorder without any nasty & expensive external blocks, and removed the sampling & mono limitations of the older units to boot, just plug in a mic with the appropriate connector. The Griffin I had added too much noise so I just reboot it to Linux to do the recording.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nagromme View Post


    Non-iPod players may not have all the integrattion and features of the iPod, but they DO synch with iTunes. In fact, iTunes knows about other brand players' capabilities, and supports them intelligently when they are connected. (Since after all, iTunes was synching to other players before there ever was an iPod.)



    Last I heard, that feature was not updated for newer players.
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  • Reply 30 of 38
    macvaultmacvault Posts: 323member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sthiede View Post


    there will never be a totally DRM free iTunes, end of story.



    And how the heck do you know that? If you are right, though, then iTunes will NEVER totally get all my money for my music/video purchases. I refuse to be infected with DRM.
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  • Reply 31 of 38
    macvaultmacvault Posts: 323member
    Some say this move away from DRM could lower iPod sales. Well, who in their right mind would buy a player other than an iPod? The iPod is hands down the best player ever. Having said that, however, I wouldn't mind built in recording, and an FM, AM, and shortwave radio would be sweet too!
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  • Reply 32 of 38
    macvaultmacvault Posts: 323member
    Could this move away from DRM, and Apple's lack of concern of losing iPod sales indicate Apple may license Mac OS X for generic PC hardware?
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  • Reply 33 of 38
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
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    Originally Posted by Macvault View Post


    Could this move away from DRM, and Apple's lack of concern of losing iPod sales indicate Apple may license Mac OS X for generic PC hardware?



    My first reaction is that that is about as likely as Hell Freezing over.
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  • Reply 34 of 38
    macvaultmacvault Posts: 323member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    My first reaction is that that is about as likely as Hell Freezing over.



    That was most people's reaction to the idea that...



    1) iTunes would sell DRM-free music

    2) Apple would switch to Intel processor

    3) Apple would support Windows on a Mac via BootCamp

    4) The iPhone was real



    etc. etc.
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  • Reply 35 of 38
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Macvault View Post


    That was most people's reaction to the idea that...



    1) iTunes would sell DRM-free music

    2) Apple would switch to Intel processor

    3) Apple would support Windows on a Mac via BootCamp

    4) The iPhone was real



    etc. etc.



    So let me be clear ... you think Apple will allow OS X to run on generic PCs? I think I will stand by my Hell Freezing over date line on that one.
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  • Reply 36 of 38
    louzerlouzer Posts: 1,054member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Macvault View Post


    Could this move away from DRM, and Apple's lack of concern of losing iPod sales indicate Apple may license Mac OS X for generic PC hardware?



    Could you clarify exactly how moving away from DRM is linked to running OS X on generic PC hardware. I've tried to make the connection, but my pea-brain just can't see how one is at all related to the other.



    BTW, keep in mind that with Apple moving away from DRM, the other stores will too. This will lead to increased (and even) competition between all the on-line stores. So Apple can easily end up losing shares of their iTMS market.
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  • Reply 37 of 38
    louzerlouzer Posts: 1,054member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    So let me be clear ... you think Apple will allow OS X to run on generic PCs? I think I will stand by my Hell Freezing over date line on that one.



    I don't know, digitalclips, if I buy that, though. You know how Apple likes to limit the number of new announcements at any one time to maximize media exposure. They've already got way too many product announcements scheduled for "hell freezing over" day (you really think they're going to release OS X for generic PCs the same day the Powerbook G5 comes out???) that they may have to move it to another time.



    Maybe "flying pigs" day?
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  • Reply 38 of 38
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Louzer View Post


    I don't know, digitalclips, if I buy that, though. You know how Apple likes to limit the number of new announcements at any one time to maximize media exposure. They've already got way too many product announcements scheduled for "hell freezing over" day (you really think they're going to release OS X for generic PCs the same day the Powerbook G5 comes out???) that they may have to move it to another time.



    Maybe "flying pigs" day?



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