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  • Reply 21 of 30
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,503member
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    Well, there's only three possibilities that I can see:

    A) Apple makes the iPhone's OS X bootable off FAT32.

    B) Apple implements an HFS+ driver for Windows, as an NT IFS (installable file system)

    C) Apple integrates such a driver straight and exclusively into iTunes.



    I think A is easiest to implement and also most likely. C is another possibility, and still more likely than B. B would be nicest, however, as Boot Camp users would also benefit from this, but this would anger Mediafour (MacDrive) quite a bit; not that that would necessarily stop Apple.







    Nah.



    No point for FAT32 boot. It would only need to be mountable to an XP/Vista system with iTunes installed.
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  • Reply 22 of 30
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
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    No point for FAT32 boot. It would only need to be mountable to an XP/Vista system with iTunes installed.



    Now, exactly what part of my post did you fail to understand? You can either teach the iPhone to boot off FAT32, as has been done with iPods, or teach iTunes or Windows as a whole to read/write an HFS+ partition.
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  • Reply 23 of 30
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
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    Now, exactly what part of my post did you fail to understand? You can either teach the iPhone to boot off FAT32, as has been done with iPods, or teach iTunes or Windows as a whole to read/write an HFS+ partition.



    Heh. This is clearer now.
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  • Reply 24 of 30
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
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    Heh. This is clearer now.



    Cool.
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  • Reply 25 of 30
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
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    Or teach iTunes or Windows as a whole to read/write an HFS+ partition...



    Messy. I don't wanna teach Windows anything... 'coz you gotta teach 2000, 2003 server, Vista, XP, XPpro2, etc, etc.......(even if there is a core feature as you mention that allows new file system accessing, it is not necessarily consistent across Windows flavours).... Let's not teach Windows, it's too dumb ...iTunes on Windows is tough enough already. Writing in HFS+ support... hmm...





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    You can either teach the iPhone to boot off FAT32, as has been done with iPods...



    I agree with you this most likely... I'd rather the iPhone be also easily plug-and-play as an external storage device. This I likey. FAT32, no problem for all the rabid Windows users wanting the iPhone. See below re: encrypting protected system files.

    Problem: Video files larger than 4GB?





    3rd Possibility??:



    Simply designate how much of the iPhone you want to use as portable drive. This will be FAT32 partition.



    Essential parts will be HFS+... no problems with 4GB+ video files... Though, if you have 1 video file that's 4+GB, you won't have much space for other stuff like the OS and apps and music and other videos and movies and stuff. ...not to mention space for the FAT32 partition.
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  • Reply 26 of 30
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
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    ...I'd rather the iPhone be also easily plug-and-play as an external storage device. This I likey. FAT32, no problem for all the rabid Windows users wanting the iPhone.

    Problem: Video files larger than 4GB?



    Other possible problem is this is opening access to all the core files on the iPhone (OS, apps, personal data....) ... Unless the "protected system files" on the FAT32 iPhone are encrypted.
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  • Reply 27 of 30
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
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    Problem: Video files larger than 4GB?



    It should be noted that the iTunes Store currently doesn't support files larger than 2 GBs.





    Quote:

    3rd Possibility??:



    Simply designate how much of the iPhone you want to use as portable drive. This will be FAT32 partition.



    Two partitions, sure. But how would you update the OS on the iPhone from within iTunes for Windows, then?
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  • Reply 28 of 30
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
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    It should be noted that the iTunes Store currently doesn't support files larger than 2 GBs.



    Yeah, but there'll be crazy mofos out there that are hardcore encoders that will load up a DVD-Rip to about 5 GB and want to play that on the iPhone and then complain on forums when they can't.



    Quote:
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    Two partitions, sure. But how would you update the OS on the iPhone from within iTunes for Windows, then?



    Urrmm.... er... yeah, damn, ya got me there.
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  • Reply 29 of 30
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
    Why do I have a slight sneaky feeling that upon release the iPhone will be 16GB?

    (Steve Jobs: "Boom!")
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  • Reply 30 of 30
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    (Steve Jobs: "Boom!")





    Haha, Jobs does say boom a lot...
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