Man its much faster then the last one I dont really see the need for the dock use. the start menu takes so long to show up it pretty much renders it useless.
I noticed you can even use the fade effects in win XP too.
Thats with a geforce 2MX
I noticed on my friends FP iMac it still clugs along though <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
I believe that the fastest and for some the best solution is to get the cheapest pc box you can get - that means no cd-rom, keyboard, mouse, sound card etc - and to use Microsoft Remote Desktop Connection (http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/rdc/default.asp) software on the mac which btw. is a free download.
I am using it over a 100Mbps ethernet connection with a 800Mhz celeron PC and this is as fast as it can get running PC apps on a Mac. I am looking forward using ip over firewire to connect these machines in the future.
Running WinMe (would use 2k but I figured it would be too slow). Dock Start Menu works fine (got notified right after the reboot after the Additions install) and is a cool thing. Dock Icons works, but has some bugs. But it's cool. The following is even possible: when an app on WinMe is running, and it's in the dock, you can right-click it and tell it to remain in the Dock. If you shut down the PC and quit Virtual PC, the icon is still in the dock. Click it, and Virtual PC will start, launching the PC, and launching the app :eek:
Rootless Windows mode, Brad? Now THAT would be "Woah."! With a bit more performance (let's say another 25% ), that would simply be an astounding feature. Think of a Virtual PC that would put your Windows desktop icons on your Mac Desktop folder. Now you could launch Internet Explorer for Windows right from the Finder. It wouldn't be restricted to a window, but in fact run in rootless mode...
Oh and... forgot the most important thing: Yes, with 10.2.3, this is... FAST. 5.0.4 was almost unusable for me on my iBook / 700. But on the very same hardware, 6.0 is no longer an issue.
So far, it's much more usable then 5. I hate that I had to pay $100 and will be tempted to use Carracho next time out of spite, and while 6 is faster, it's not where it should be.
<strong>we're not talking about alternatives o VPC, we're talking about VPC itself.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I apologize for my post about RDC. It just felt relevant because many posts are about the speed (or lack of) of VPC. So basically people ask if VPC 6 is faster than VPC 5, and I provided an option which I know is faster than VPC.
I dont know about the rules of posting in this forum, but I see this happening quite often - for example talking about indesign 2 in a quark thread etc.
<strong>It's alright, you don't have to apologize. But we we're talking about Software, not Hardware; no options. software to software; hardware to hardware.
We all know that VPC emulates the hardware; so it has to be slower than a "real" PC.
But the option of getting a PC is compromised by some things:
? You're a mobile user. You can't take another Laptop with you, can you ?
? Money. VPC costs $99. another PC costs more. the licenses for windows..well, they can be pirated.
? you simply don't want a PC. you have some software, and that runs fine on VPC.
I have to say myself, I do have a PC; for 3D-Engineering though. You can't run such stuff on VPC.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, without furthering this debate, there's another reason for VPC: for mobile device connectivity with your computer. I use VPC for one reason: to sync my pocket pc to my computer and to install software on it. This wouldn't be possible with RDC, though the thought of getting a cheap PC has tempted me from time to time.
Just trying to do some research here before i plunge in and 'switch'. Chances are that I am going to have to use my MS Apps like Project and Visio for some time (nothing too complex). Will VPC 6.0 on a new fully loaded 12inch PowerBook be OK performance wise?
<strong>Just trying to do some research here before i plunge in and 'switch'. Chances are that I am going to have to use my MS Apps like Project and Visio for some time (nothing too complex). Will VPC 6.0 on a new fully loaded 12inch PowerBook be OK performance wise?</strong><hr></blockquote>
What you need to do to get good performance is send that miniPB to me as soon as you get it and I'll tweak it so it just right. It may look a lot like my Ti when you get it back and it may have a different processor, a 15.2" inch screen and a smaller HD, but I guarantee you that it will be your new computer.
Great! Send me your address and I will get apple to ship it directly to you. Any idea on what VPC on the 12" would equate to. At the moment i am using PIII 600 MHZ - however I doubt that VPC would match that!
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[ 12-20-2002: Message edited by: Defiant ]</p>
I noticed you can even use the fade effects in win XP too.
Thats with a geforce 2MX
I noticed on my friends FP iMac it still clugs along though <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
[ 12-20-2002: Message edited by: Mount_my_floppy ]</p>
I believe that the fastest and for some the best solution is to get the cheapest pc box you can get - that means no cd-rom, keyboard, mouse, sound card etc - and to use Microsoft Remote Desktop Connection (http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/rdc/default.asp) software on the mac which btw. is a free download.
I am using it over a 100Mbps ethernet connection with a 800Mhz celeron PC and this is as fast as it can get running PC apps on a Mac. I am looking forward using ip over firewire to connect these machines in the future.
-Snowster
Rootless Windows mode, Brad? Now THAT would be "Woah."! With a bit more performance (let's say another 25%
Oh and... forgot the most important thing: Yes, with 10.2.3, this is... FAST. 5.0.4 was almost unusable for me on my iBook / 700. But on the very same hardware, 6.0 is no longer an issue.
[ 12-20-2002: Message edited by: Chucker ]</p>
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699 Virtual PC 3.3% 25:58.81 11 556 486 248M 14.2M 127M 355M
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VPC 5 would use 60+% all the time, regardless of whether the virtual machine was running. Much better (so far).
<strong>we're not talking about alternatives o VPC, we're talking about VPC itself.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I apologize for my post about RDC. It just felt relevant because many posts are about the speed (or lack of) of VPC. So basically people ask if VPC 6 is faster than VPC 5, and I provided an option which I know is faster than VPC.
I dont know about the rules of posting in this forum, but I see this happening quite often - for example talking about indesign 2 in a quark thread etc.
-Snowster
[ 12-21-2002: Message edited by: Snowster ]</p>
We all know that VPC emulates the hardware; so it has to be slower than a "real" PC.
But the option of getting a PC is compromised by some things:
? You're a mobile user. You can't take another Laptop with you, can you ?
? Money. VPC costs $99. another PC costs more. the licenses for windows..well, they can be pirated.
? you simply don't want a PC. you have some software, and that runs fine on VPC.
I have to say myself, I do have a PC; for 3D-Engineering though. You can't run such stuff on VPC.
<strong>It's alright, you don't have to apologize. But we we're talking about Software, not Hardware; no options. software to software; hardware to hardware.
We all know that VPC emulates the hardware; so it has to be slower than a "real" PC.
But the option of getting a PC is compromised by some things:
? You're a mobile user. You can't take another Laptop with you, can you ?
? Money. VPC costs $99. another PC costs more. the licenses for windows..well, they can be pirated.
? you simply don't want a PC. you have some software, and that runs fine on VPC.
I have to say myself, I do have a PC; for 3D-Engineering though. You can't run such stuff on VPC.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, without furthering this debate, there's another reason for VPC: for mobile device connectivity with your computer. I use VPC for one reason: to sync my pocket pc to my computer and to install software on it. This wouldn't be possible with RDC, though the thought of getting a cheap PC has tempted me from time to time.
<strong>Just trying to do some research here before i plunge in and 'switch'. Chances are that I am going to have to use my MS Apps like Project and Visio for some time (nothing too complex). Will VPC 6.0 on a new fully loaded 12inch PowerBook be OK performance wise?</strong><hr></blockquote>
What you need to do to get good performance is send that miniPB to me as soon as you get it and I'll tweak it so it just right. It may look a lot like my Ti when you get it back and it may have a different processor, a 15.2" inch screen and a smaller HD, but I guarantee you that it will be your new computer.
Yes, it should be fine. Or as fine as VPC can be.
[ 01-12-2003: Message edited by: torifile ]</p>