Noah's Ark in Holland
OK. Some Dutch dude went and built himself an Akr in the likeness of the one true bleievers think Noah built to survive the flood.
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/eu....ap/index.html
Tough work for one guy even with modern tools.
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Now, to the debate about the real ark:
Could it have done the job that it is claimed to have done?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah's_Ark#Biblical_literalism_and_the_Ark
Capacity and logistics: The Ark would have had a gross volume of about 1.5 million cubic feet (40,000 m³), a displacement a little less than half that of the Titanic at about 22,000 tons, and total floor space of around 100,000 square feet (9,300 m²)
Length: about 137 meters
According to one idea, the Ark carried two of every species. Some later thought says two of every species type (ie, two cats, not two American shorts plus two Saimese).
So, how much space would have been necessary on the Ark to carry two of every species, even species type, all the various food sources (yep: meat for some), drinking water? How did the few people on board manage to dispose of all the animal waste? Eight humans... we now have whites, blacks, Aisans and other races... but no mention of that. How did Noah then release all the animals that later were discoverd to only live in certain regions (koalas and kangaroos in Australia, penguin in Antarctica, Bushes in America, you get the picture)?
What about all the little species like house flies, mosquitos, etc., which have life-cylces far shorter than the suggested time the Ark was afloat.
What about the sea life that would not have survived without the oxygen created by sea plants in sunlight? How many species would have died?
So, if the Ark didn't carry a complete set of living creatures on earth nor did it carry the wide variety of plant life, what did it carry (if indeed it was built?).
If it didn't carry one of everything, and there are thousand and thousands of species on earth only a few thousand years after the flood, then does that prove, Biblically, that evolution occurs, and quite rapidly, far more so than science has determined?
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/eu....ap/index.html
Tough work for one guy even with modern tools.
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Now, to the debate about the real ark:
Could it have done the job that it is claimed to have done?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah's_Ark#Biblical_literalism_and_the_Ark
Capacity and logistics: The Ark would have had a gross volume of about 1.5 million cubic feet (40,000 m³), a displacement a little less than half that of the Titanic at about 22,000 tons, and total floor space of around 100,000 square feet (9,300 m²)
Length: about 137 meters
According to one idea, the Ark carried two of every species. Some later thought says two of every species type (ie, two cats, not two American shorts plus two Saimese).
So, how much space would have been necessary on the Ark to carry two of every species, even species type, all the various food sources (yep: meat for some), drinking water? How did the few people on board manage to dispose of all the animal waste? Eight humans... we now have whites, blacks, Aisans and other races... but no mention of that. How did Noah then release all the animals that later were discoverd to only live in certain regions (koalas and kangaroos in Australia, penguin in Antarctica, Bushes in America, you get the picture)?
What about all the little species like house flies, mosquitos, etc., which have life-cylces far shorter than the suggested time the Ark was afloat.
What about the sea life that would not have survived without the oxygen created by sea plants in sunlight? How many species would have died?
So, if the Ark didn't carry a complete set of living creatures on earth nor did it carry the wide variety of plant life, what did it carry (if indeed it was built?).
If it didn't carry one of everything, and there are thousand and thousands of species on earth only a few thousand years after the flood, then does that prove, Biblically, that evolution occurs, and quite rapidly, far more so than science has determined?
Comments
Bruce!
Yes, the ark finishes up landing in a nightclub in Swindon and Noah finds a novel use for an anteater's nose.....
Viscious rumours started by Ham.
Morgan Freeman is God. Didn't you get the memo?
Sorry, I was too busy fornicating with underage lesbian pornstars in a big hot tub of Belgian chocolate... <homer>mmm chocolate...</homer>. BTW, His memos and emails go straight into my Junk folder.
http://www.ldolphin.org/cisflood.html
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This page claims to have found the Ark, too.
http://mmmgroup.altervista.org/e-ark.html
As to the space needed for the animals, one explanation I found says that there were super specimens that contained all of the DNA variety we find in several species today (ie, one pair of dogs rode the Ark and later became Shephards, Dobermans, Poodles blah blah blah. That means evolution worked pretty fast after they disembarked.
As to the need to feed the animals, many of them supposedly entered a close to hibernation state and therefore didn't need food. This could happen because God had his hand in on it all. If so, and if he is so powerful anyway, why did they ned to Ark in the first place? If he created everything in six days, why did it take months to wipe out just the surface?
The Noahs ark in the bible is a metaphor for your body.
You are going to expand on this, no?
You are going to expand on this, no?
no!
if you care enough about the topic youre talking about, you'll want to find out for yourself.
Perhaps it is a metaphor, but then why do people go searching for it? Why do they build models of it? Why do they spend their time writing pages like this:
http://www.ldolphin.org/cisflood.html
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Because they're dumb.
You are going to expand on this, no?
no!
if you care enough about the topic youre talking about, you'll want to find out for yourself.
The Noahs ark in the bible is a metaphor for your body.
"noah's ark as a metaphor of the body" in Google shows up this thread as #2.
How did Google pick up on it so fast? Damn!
How did Google pick up on it so fast? Damn!
Them spiders be everywhere... Scary.
My God! It's a fucking Parable. How many ignorant Christians are going to keep deluding themselves?
*** Edit: By no means am I implying that all Christians are ignorant. Just that the ones who believe the Bible is historical "fact" are ignorant. I think it's a waste of humanity for people to be even taking the time and effort to debate the possibility, much less those who build arks and write diatribes about how the earth is 7000 years old.
Anyway, I asked him if the church believed dinosaur's existed. He said yes they do. To which I asked how Noah managed to get the Brachiosaurus on the boat.
He said that Noah didn't take adults. He took babies.
How many ignorant Christians are going to keep deluding themselves?
*** Edit: By no means am I implying that all Christians are ignorant. Just that the ones who believe the Bible is historical "fact" are ignorant. I think it's a waste of humanity for people to be even taking the time and effort to debate the possibility, much less those who build arks and write diatribes about how the earth is 7000 years old.
The Bible is a record of God's interaction with mankind since Creation. That is its primary purpose, and the Bible is not meant to be a complete historical textbook of the ages.
That said, the Bible contains plenty of historical facts. While many claims remain unproven, I'd love to see you supply any outright statements of fact in the Bible that have been proven wrong.
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