This reminds me of the responses we PPC diehards would give when people would ask about Apple switching to Intel chips.
The alternative for Apple to run Intel chips was very slow emulation of parts of Mac OS. Mac OS was dependent on Motorola chips at the time, and they needed a better processor, enter PPC, the only CPU at the time that could emulate Motorola without a huge performance drop. All other projects to rewrite Mac OS were failures, until NeXT came along.
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Originally Posted by blitzableiter
I was just thinking about this the other day - yes, people mentioned many times that OSX would never run on non Mac hardware... but... could it be that Leopard will see a widespread release with full compatibility for non Mac hw?
No.
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Originally Posted by agent_orange
*screams*. Why do people keep asking questions to which they already know the answer?
Because they can and because it gives them something to do.
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Originally Posted by blitzableiter
ummmmm yeah...
"Mac's will NEVER run intel hw!" Because Mac OS couldn't run on Intel
"mobile TV's? never - screen's way too small for that" Enter, Apple TV, the 5th Generation was a test run, and with the iPhone they have some damn good technology to handle it.
"Windows? why would we ever mess with that" We don't, unless it's a job requirement.
perhaps because of all these having somehow magically proven true? Not magically, it only made good business sense.
instead of screaming you ought to revisit those areas and look at the evidence in place.Yes you should. -Sebastian
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Originally Posted by Ireland
No, I don't think so. I think the delay is because it will be bigger than the average OS X release, bigger plans. OS X on non-Mac hardware will IMO happen at some stage, but probably not for at least 3, 5 or more years.
Or you know, the delay could be because Apple pulled programmers from Leopard to fix a software problem in the iPhone, and developers will still have a full featured beta by WWDC... but no of course not, Apple would never do that. Oh wait, that's exactly what their press release says... whaddya know? Oh and about running Mac OS X on generic PCs in 3, 5, or more years... I like the alternative of never. However, circumstances change all the time, but considering they have always been and still are a consumer electronics company (Computers are simply another category under the overall "Consumer Electronics" market) that writes their own software instead of relying on licensed junk or Linux, I don't see it for at least another oh say... maybe when they become a software company.
Or you know, the delay could be because Apple pulled programmers from Leopard to fix a software problem in the iPhone..
You must be one of those folks that thinks OS X is no question fully Unix® right? Apple has clearly done their job here, and you've proven it. IMO the reasons OS X is delayed are irrelevant, OS X is coming out in October, I don't dare to think or care why, the fact that Apple had the balls to hold OS X off another 4 months says more than anything, it should be a pretty good release, we'll see. I won't be getting an iPhone myself anyway.
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This reminds me of the responses we PPC diehards would give when people would ask about Apple switching to Intel chips.
The alternative for Apple to run Intel chips was very slow emulation of parts of Mac OS. Mac OS was dependent on Motorola chips at the time, and they needed a better processor, enter PPC, the only CPU at the time that could emulate Motorola without a huge performance drop. All other projects to rewrite Mac OS were failures, until NeXT came along.
I was just thinking about this the other day - yes, people mentioned many times that OSX would never run on non Mac hardware... but... could it be that Leopard will see a widespread release with full compatibility for non Mac hw?
No.
*screams*. Why do people keep asking questions to which they already know the answer?
Because they can and because it gives them something to do.
ummmmm yeah...
"Mac's will NEVER run intel hw!" Because Mac OS couldn't run on Intel
"mobile TV's? never - screen's way too small for that" Enter, Apple TV, the 5th Generation was a test run, and with the iPhone they have some damn good technology to handle it.
"Windows? why would we ever mess with that" We don't, unless it's a job requirement.
perhaps because of all these having somehow magically proven true? Not magically, it only made good business sense.
instead of screaming you ought to revisit those areas and look at the evidence in place.Yes you should. -Sebastian
No, I don't think so. I think the delay is because it will be bigger than the average OS X release, bigger plans. OS X on non-Mac hardware will IMO happen at some stage, but probably not for at least 3, 5 or more years.
Or you know, the delay could be because Apple pulled programmers from Leopard to fix a software problem in the iPhone, and developers will still have a full featured beta by WWDC... but no of course not, Apple would never do that. Oh wait, that's exactly what their press release says... whaddya know? Oh and about running Mac OS X on generic PCs in 3, 5, or more years... I like the alternative of never. However, circumstances change all the time, but considering they have always been and still are a consumer electronics company (Computers are simply another category under the overall "Consumer Electronics" market) that writes their own software instead of relying on licensed junk or Linux, I don't see it for at least another oh say... maybe when they become a software company.
Sebastian
Let me explain this as technical as possible: Super Duper Hell no.
We have a Winner.
Sebastian
We have a Winner.
Sebastian
You mean, we have a guesser. The fact that you think he's right is beside the point, he doesn't work for Apple.
Or you know, the delay could be because Apple pulled programmers from Leopard to fix a software problem in the iPhone..
You must be one of those folks that thinks OS X is no question fully Unix® right? Apple has clearly done their job here, and you've proven it. IMO the reasons OS X is delayed are irrelevant, OS X is coming out in October, I don't dare to think or care why, the fact that Apple had the balls to hold OS X off another 4 months says more than anything, it should be a pretty good release, we'll see. I won't be getting an iPhone myself anyway.