You mean how the dollar swings. It's what's being manipulated. Moreover, the point is that the Dow hasn't been climbing, overall. The expression of its value has been climbing along with inflation: the policy of over-printing federal reserve notes to steal money out of your pocket. If the Dow doesn't continue climbing, we really are screwed.
It's neither. It's the horse. The dead one. Please, for the love of mike, stop beating the poor thing.
Listen to your own advice for once. Dvorak is commonly referred to as a pundit, and certainly almost never as a journalist. Language is defined not by dictionaries say, but by how it is actually commonly used by people.
It seems that someone forgot to take his Ritalin before going to work. To quit over a stupid article about what you hate about a computer company shows a certain lack of maturity. This supposed whimsical article is not exactly like he was reporting on the Iraq War.
Ten things to hate about Apple doesn't sound as he was planning on writing something of stalwart journalistic quality, does it? It sounds more like what some college kid would write in his blog. What was his next article going to be? What computers are Britney, Paris and Lindsey using these days?
Finding ten things to hate about any company is a very easy task. Hell, I can find ten things I hate about my wife and she's the best person I have ever met. And she could surely find a thousand things to hate about me (although she wouldn't because she's too good a person). But aside from me trying to earn brownie points at home, my point is that being a hater is a very easy task. Find ten things to like about something sometime. Is there any company on the planet that does just ten things perfectly? Now finding that would require some real reporting.
If you're going to quit your job on principle, do it over something that matters, please.
Integrity does not matter?
There are two main things that make or destroy a reporter:
Integrity and trust of the readership
If someone has little integrity, he will lose the trust, if you don't trust their opinion then there is no point in reading what he writes.
"Unbalanced Reporting" - Good Grief man! Are you a hermit who doesn't read the newspapers, watch tv, listen to the radio or browse the web? It doesn't matter if your a conservative reading the New York Post or Wall Street Journal newspapers, watching Fox News, listening to Rush Limbaugh on the radio or going on the web to newsmaxdotcom or if you are a liberal reading the New York Times or L. A. Times newspapers, watching CNN, MSNBC, CBS etc., listening to Air America on the radio or going on the web to barbrastreisanddotcom, moveondotorg, huffingtonpostdotcom - you are never going to find balanced reporting.
But if you do, please let me know and if you do, can I get some of that stuff you're smokin'?
A reporter should be able to have his story told, it is his opinion on a particular subject. He maybe liberal or conservative. However what it is in the story should be HIS point of view, not the point of view of someone else. If that someone else does not like it and is in charge, they can put their name to the story and change the content. But attempting to force their view on a reporter is plain wrong and unbalance as it is not the view of the reporter.
IMHO he did the right thing and quit. He should have a lot more offers for a job than if he was known as a pushover and wishiwashi.
Listen to your own advice for once. Dvorak is commonly referred to as a pundit, and certainly almost never as a journalist. Language is defined not by dictionaries say, but by how it is actually commonly used by people.
For example: Pundit is a variant spelling of Pandit, usually used as a title, which meant a Hindu or Brahman scholar learned in Sanskrit and Hindu philosophy and religion, typically also a practicing priest. The word was originally sanskrit for 'learned'.
Here is my Mac's New Oxford American Dictionary, 2nd Edition entry for 'avatar'. Interesting because the internet has created a new definition for the word. The Sanskrit origins of both words is merely a coincidence.
avatarn.
chiefly Hinduism
a manifestation of a deity or released soul in bodily form on earth; an incarnate divine teacher.
• an incarnation, embodiment, or manifestation of a person or idea : he set himself up as a new avatar of Arab radicalism.
• Computing a movable icon representing a person in cyberspace or virtual reality graphics.
ORIGIN from Sanskrit avat?ra ‘descent,’ from ava ‘down’ + tar- ‘to cross.’
Let me correct a major falsehood here. Apple has never, in my 10 years at Macworld, had access to ANY editorial content in advance of publication.
When people from Apple complain about what we write, they do it after we post it. And while Apple (and all other companies) can -- and do! -- complain about negative coverage, that doesn't remotely equate to changing coverage in order to appease those companies.
I'm sure if you talked to Apple they would tell you that the Apple-Macworld relationship is about as far away from "yes sir, anything you say sir" as you could get.
-Jason Snell, Editorial Director, Macworld
Nice to see you over here Jason, and thanks for the clarification. I had thought that statement was odd.
Devil's Advocate: Maybe the former editor of MacWorld thought the 10 things were crap, because they would offend the predominantly Windows-oriented advertisers of this PC magazine, and that's why it was inappropriate. For example:
Ten Whimsical Things We (at PC World) Hate About Apple:
10. Apple TV ads always show Mac users as cool and PC users as stodgy, beige-box button-down corporate flunkies, which unfortunately, demographics prove. 90% of the computers in the world are bought by middle-aged purchasing dweebs acting on the orders of pompous corporate IT executives who don't know you can drag and drop files.
9. Apple computers always look sleek and cool. HP and Dell computers look like corporate Windoze machines, with cheap monitors attached. Except for the consumer gamer model PCs, which look like corporate Windoze machines with simulated metal-colored plastic covers.
8. Nobody using a Mac got the "I love you" virus from Outlook and had all their porn deleted from the corporate file server.
7. No one at Apple support ever told a user they needed to reinstall Windows.
6. Steve Jobs never screamed and danced and drooled like an idiot in front of paying customers.
5. Apple never made 6 versions of the same operating system, none of which worked very well because deep down inside, it was still based on DOS.
4. Apple techs never told a user to go the N: drive to find the driver you needed so your mouse would scroll.
Great. Wonderful. You're disagreeing with the Oxford American Dictionary. Guess which one of you is more likely to be right.
As I said before, you've got an informal definition of journalist in mind, and that's fine. There's a reasonable chance it matches my own informal definition. I don't particularly think that writing for a magazine qualifies someone as a journalist. I think there's a lot more to being a journalist than that. I also don't think writing a blog on the internet makes one a journalist, either.
But these are not my definitions to make. Neither are they yours. Furthermore, the two terms are obviously not mutually exclusive. So you can't say a person isn't "A" because you think he's "B". I didn't disagree with "B". Perhaps I wasn't being clear enough in my post. I'm just saying you didn't nullify "A".
I was simply making a passing reference to someone in a post, using terms I figured we could agree on because they adhere to the formal dictionary definitions. You don?t want that common ground. I actually have a lot of respect for you, Mr Gross. Please, though, refer all further corrections to the fine philologists at Oxford. When they change the definition, I?ll be happy to adhere to the new one.
You mean how the dollar swings. It's what's being manipulated. Moreover, the point is that the Dow hasn't been climbing, overall. The expression of its value has been climbing along with inflation: the policy of over-printing federal reserve notes to steal money out of your pocket. If the Dow doesn't continue climbing, we really are screwed.
No, I mean gold.
Gold rises when there is anxiety, and drops when there is comfort. It's pretty simple, really. You don't have to resort to conspiracy theories to explain it.
It's neither. It's the horse. The dead one. Please, for the love of mike, stop beating the poor thing.
You've made your point clear. You do not accept a common ground based upon the most authorative source of the English language I know of. Let it go. I understand the dynamism of the language. I understand it exquisitely well. So do the people at the OED. Without a common ground, then all argument is just "Winner by exhaustion." A very hollow victory, indeed. I don't recommend it.
You don't understand language nearly as well as you think you do from what you're saying.
As you say, let it go. You're the one who started this silly argument.
For example: Pundit is a variant spelling of Pandit, usually used as a title, which meant a Hindu or Brahman scholar learned in Sanskrit and Hindu philosophy and religion, typically also a practicing priest. The word was originally sanskrit for 'learned'.
Here is my Mac's New Oxford American Dictionary, 2nd Edition entry for 'avatar'. Interesting because the internet has created a new definition for the word. The Sanskrit origins of both words is merely a coincidence.
avatarn.
chiefly Hinduism
a manifestation of a deity or released soul in bodily form on earth; an incarnate divine teacher.
• an incarnation, embodiment, or manifestation of a person or idea : he set himself up as a new avatar of Arab radicalism.
• Computing a movable icon representing a person in cyberspace or virtual reality graphics.
ORIGIN from Sanskrit avat?ra ‘descent,’ from ava ‘down’ + tar- ‘to cross.’
No, it's not coincidence...the word avatar was chosen to describe user icons because the icon is a manifestation of a "diety" or released soul in pixel form on the internet...that's the whole point in CHOOSING the word avatar...the original meaning.
What? Do you think folks randomly picked Avatar out because it started with an A? Likewise the root of the meaning of pundit implies that being a pundit requires some learning/expertise in addition to being a blowhard.
Dvorak does have a level of expertise above the average joe when it comes to computers and PCs and an assload of contacts in the industry. He's bright enough to stay employed as a writer anyways and he's writing an editorial column for crying out loud. If he only said rational and uncontroversial things no one would read him.
No, it's not coincidence...the word avatar was chosen to describe user icons because the icon is a manifestation of a "diety" or released soul in pixel form on the internet...that's the whole point in CHOOSING the word avatar...the original meaning.
What? Do you think folks randomly picked Avatar out because it started with an A? Likewise the root of the meaning of pundit implies that being a pundit requires some learning/expertise in addition to being a blowhard.
Dvorak does have a level of expertise above the average joe when it comes to computers and PCs and an assload of contacts in the industry. He's bright enough to stay employed as a writer anyways and he's writing an editorial column for crying out loud. If he only said rational and uncontroversial things no one would read him.
Vinea
Allow me to repeat part of my post again: "The Sanskrit origins of both words [pundit and avatar] is a coincidence [in my choosing a second Sanskrit word for an example]."
Quote:
Originally Posted by vinea
Likewise the root of the meaning of pundit implies that being a pundit requires some learning/expertise in addition to being a blowhard.
It doesn't merely imply it, it clearly states it.
Another fun etymology is the word 'assassin': ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French, or from medieval Latin assassinus, from Arabic ḥašīšī ‘hashish eater.’
Another fun etymology is the word 'assassin': ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French, or from medieval Latin assassinus, from Arabic ?a???? ?hashish eater.?
That wasn't random either.
The Cult of Assassins used hashish to built up their courage. The two were entwined in the mythology. So the term simply refered back to those who were employed to do what those in the original cult were employed to do, even if they didn't use the drug.
This sort of crap has been going on for ever in the PC publiching field...I have seen a full page artical saying that Jassic PSP was a great replacement for photoshop, there was a Paintshop pro ad on the precious page...
Look at networking magazines from the 90s, Cisco ads everywhere...and not a foul word about Cisco,
Has Macworld ever criticized the joke that is Office for Mac?
I once saw a gaming mag that said that the Nvidia GF5200 wasx lower preformance than a Radion 7000, what was on the reverse side of the front cover? a 3-page centerfold style pull out ad for the Radion 9xxx
Tech mags are like wikipedia, take them for what they are worth, no one really knows the sources or intent ot alterior motives behind the content.
Besides, Macworld SUCKS...now I have advanced warning that tPC World will suck more...like MW has for ~3 years hat I have skimmed that worthless rag about our beloved fruity platform
Allow me to repeat part of my post again: "The Sanskrit origins of both words [pundit and avatar] is a coincidence [in my choosing a second Sanskrit word for an example]."
...
It doesn't merely imply it, it clearly states it.
Evidently I failed my reading comprehension test today.
I've worked in the news business and let's be clear about something because it seems many people are already jumping to the wrong conclusions. Issuing an editorial decision that you won't be critical of major advertisers is NOT the same as saying you can't write something negative about an advertiser if it's warranted. What I bet the editor is saying is that he's not going to tolerate unwarranted editorializing (i.e., tongue-in-cheek articles like "10 things we hate about Apple") especially about advertisers. Don't assume that means Apple is going to start getting a free pass when they release a lousy product. I doubt that an honest review (even a negative one) is the kind of criticizing he's talking about. What this guy sounds like he's doing is weeding out that subtle anti-Apple bias that you can pick up in PC World and PC Magazine, like the stupid, inflammatory shit that John C. Dvorak does that, IMO, damages a magazine's credibility.
[Edit: needed to clarify some stuff that was badly worded.]
I stopped buying Macworld because the reviews were ridiculous. They were always favorable, and minimally critical - worthless. They were product descriptions.
So if the Crawford guy was running the show, I believe that he has no integrity - I used to read the industry a$$ kissing reviews until I grew tired of them.
~
no doubt. it seemed like they got a fax of what to write from a vendor, and printed it without even reviewing anything. lame. if this was the guy behind the scenes, bye bye PC World.
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We all know how the price of gold swings.
You mean how the dollar swings. It's what's being manipulated. Moreover, the point is that the Dow hasn't been climbing, overall. The expression of its value has been climbing along with inflation: the policy of over-printing federal reserve notes to steal money out of your pocket. If the Dow doesn't continue climbing, we really are screwed.
It's neither. It's the horse. The dead one. Please, for the love of mike, stop beating the poor thing.
Listen to your own advice for once. Dvorak is commonly referred to as a pundit, and certainly almost never as a journalist. Language is defined not by dictionaries say, but by how it is actually commonly used by people.
It seems that someone forgot to take his Ritalin before going to work. To quit over a stupid article about what you hate about a computer company shows a certain lack of maturity. This supposed whimsical article is not exactly like he was reporting on the Iraq War.
Ten things to hate about Apple doesn't sound as he was planning on writing something of stalwart journalistic quality, does it? It sounds more like what some college kid would write in his blog. What was his next article going to be? What computers are Britney, Paris and Lindsey using these days?
Finding ten things to hate about any company is a very easy task. Hell, I can find ten things I hate about my wife and she's the best person I have ever met. And she could surely find a thousand things to hate about me (although she wouldn't because she's too good a person). But aside from me trying to earn brownie points at home, my point is that being a hater is a very easy task. Find ten things to like about something sometime. Is there any company on the planet that does just ten things perfectly? Now finding that would require some real reporting.
If you're going to quit your job on principle, do it over something that matters, please.
Integrity does not matter?
There are two main things that make or destroy a reporter:
Integrity and trust of the readership
If someone has little integrity, he will lose the trust, if you don't trust their opinion then there is no point in reading what he writes.
"Unbalanced Reporting" - Good Grief man! Are you a hermit who doesn't read the newspapers, watch tv, listen to the radio or browse the web? It doesn't matter if your a conservative reading the New York Post or Wall Street Journal newspapers, watching Fox News, listening to Rush Limbaugh on the radio or going on the web to newsmaxdotcom or if you are a liberal reading the New York Times or L. A. Times newspapers, watching CNN, MSNBC, CBS etc., listening to Air America on the radio or going on the web to barbrastreisanddotcom, moveondotorg, huffingtonpostdotcom - you are never going to find balanced reporting.
But if you do, please let me know and if you do, can I get some of that stuff you're smokin'?
A reporter should be able to have his story told, it is his opinion on a particular subject. He maybe liberal or conservative. However what it is in the story should be HIS point of view, not the point of view of someone else. If that someone else does not like it and is in charge, they can put their name to the story and change the content. But attempting to force their view on a reporter is plain wrong and unbalance as it is not the view of the reporter.
IMHO he did the right thing and quit. He should have a lot more offers for a job than if he was known as a pushover and wishiwashi.
Listen to your own advice for once. Dvorak is commonly referred to as a pundit, and certainly almost never as a journalist. Language is defined not by dictionaries say, but by how it is actually commonly used by people.
For example: Pundit is a variant spelling of Pandit, usually used as a title, which meant a Hindu or Brahman scholar learned in Sanskrit and Hindu philosophy and religion, typically also a practicing priest. The word was originally sanskrit for 'learned'.
Here is my Mac's New Oxford American Dictionary, 2nd Edition entry for 'avatar'. Interesting because the internet has created a new definition for the word. The Sanskrit origins of both words is merely a coincidence.
Let me correct a major falsehood here. Apple has never, in my 10 years at Macworld, had access to ANY editorial content in advance of publication.
When people from Apple complain about what we write, they do it after we post it. And while Apple (and all other companies) can -- and do! -- complain about negative coverage, that doesn't remotely equate to changing coverage in order to appease those companies.
I'm sure if you talked to Apple they would tell you that the Apple-Macworld relationship is about as far away from "yes sir, anything you say sir" as you could get.
-Jason Snell, Editorial Director, Macworld
Nice to see you over here Jason, and thanks for the clarification. I had thought that statement was odd.
Ten Whimsical Things We (at PC World) Hate About Apple:
10. Apple TV ads always show Mac users as cool and PC users as stodgy, beige-box button-down corporate flunkies, which unfortunately, demographics prove. 90% of the computers in the world are bought by middle-aged purchasing dweebs acting on the orders of pompous corporate IT executives who don't know you can drag and drop files.
9. Apple computers always look sleek and cool. HP and Dell computers look like corporate Windoze machines, with cheap monitors attached. Except for the consumer gamer model PCs, which look like corporate Windoze machines with simulated metal-colored plastic covers.
8. Nobody using a Mac got the "I love you" virus from Outlook and had all their porn deleted from the corporate file server.
7. No one at Apple support ever told a user they needed to reinstall Windows.
6. Steve Jobs never screamed and danced and drooled like an idiot in front of paying customers.
5. Apple never made 6 versions of the same operating system, none of which worked very well because deep down inside, it was still based on DOS.
4. Apple techs never told a user to go the N: drive to find the driver you needed so your mouse would scroll.
3. Wide screens.
2. iTunes.
1. 1984
Great. Wonderful. You're disagreeing with the Oxford American Dictionary. Guess which one of you is more likely to be right.
As I said before, you've got an informal definition of journalist in mind, and that's fine. There's a reasonable chance it matches my own informal definition. I don't particularly think that writing for a magazine qualifies someone as a journalist. I think there's a lot more to being a journalist than that. I also don't think writing a blog on the internet makes one a journalist, either.
But these are not my definitions to make. Neither are they yours. Furthermore, the two terms are obviously not mutually exclusive. So you can't say a person isn't "A" because you think he's "B". I didn't disagree with "B". Perhaps I wasn't being clear enough in my post. I'm just saying you didn't nullify "A".
I was simply making a passing reference to someone in a post, using terms I figured we could agree on because they adhere to the formal dictionary definitions. You don?t want that common ground. I actually have a lot of respect for you, Mr Gross. Please, though, refer all further corrections to the fine philologists at Oxford. When they change the definition, I?ll be happy to adhere to the new one.
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You mean how the dollar swings. It's what's being manipulated. Moreover, the point is that the Dow hasn't been climbing, overall. The expression of its value has been climbing along with inflation: the policy of over-printing federal reserve notes to steal money out of your pocket. If the Dow doesn't continue climbing, we really are screwed.
No, I mean gold.
Gold rises when there is anxiety, and drops when there is comfort. It's pretty simple, really. You don't have to resort to conspiracy theories to explain it.
It's neither. It's the horse. The dead one. Please, for the love of mike, stop beating the poor thing.
You've made your point clear. You do not accept a common ground based upon the most authorative source of the English language I know of. Let it go. I understand the dynamism of the language. I understand it exquisitely well. So do the people at the OED. Without a common ground, then all argument is just "Winner by exhaustion." A very hollow victory, indeed. I don't recommend it.
You don't understand language nearly as well as you think you do from what you're saying.
As you say, let it go. You're the one who started this silly argument.
For example: Pundit is a variant spelling of Pandit, usually used as a title, which meant a Hindu or Brahman scholar learned in Sanskrit and Hindu philosophy and religion, typically also a practicing priest. The word was originally sanskrit for 'learned'.
Here is my Mac's New Oxford American Dictionary, 2nd Edition entry for 'avatar'. Interesting because the internet has created a new definition for the word. The Sanskrit origins of both words is merely a coincidence.
No, it's not coincidence...the word avatar was chosen to describe user icons because the icon is a manifestation of a "diety" or released soul in pixel form on the internet...that's the whole point in CHOOSING the word avatar...the original meaning.
What? Do you think folks randomly picked Avatar out because it started with an A? Likewise the root of the meaning of pundit implies that being a pundit requires some learning/expertise in addition to being a blowhard.
Dvorak does have a level of expertise above the average joe when it comes to computers and PCs and an assload of contacts in the industry. He's bright enough to stay employed as a writer anyways and he's writing an editorial column for crying out loud. If he only said rational and uncontroversial things no one would read him.
Vinea
No, it's not coincidence...the word avatar was chosen to describe user icons because the icon is a manifestation of a "diety" or released soul in pixel form on the internet...that's the whole point in CHOOSING the word avatar...the original meaning.
What? Do you think folks randomly picked Avatar out because it started with an A? Likewise the root of the meaning of pundit implies that being a pundit requires some learning/expertise in addition to being a blowhard.
Dvorak does have a level of expertise above the average joe when it comes to computers and PCs and an assload of contacts in the industry. He's bright enough to stay employed as a writer anyways and he's writing an editorial column for crying out loud. If he only said rational and uncontroversial things no one would read him.
Vinea
Allow me to repeat part of my post again: "The Sanskrit origins of both words [pundit and avatar] is a coincidence [in my choosing a second Sanskrit word for an example]."
Likewise the root of the meaning of pundit implies that being a pundit requires some learning/expertise in addition to being a blowhard.
It doesn't merely imply it, it clearly states it.
Another fun etymology is the word 'assassin': ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French, or from medieval Latin assassinus, from Arabic ḥašīšī ‘hashish eater.’
Another fun etymology is the word 'assassin': ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French, or from medieval Latin assassinus, from Arabic ?a???? ?hashish eater.?
That wasn't random either.
The Cult of Assassins used hashish to built up their courage. The two were entwined in the mythology. So the term simply refered back to those who were employed to do what those in the original cult were employed to do, even if they didn't use the drug.
Look at networking magazines from the 90s, Cisco ads everywhere...and not a foul word about Cisco,
Has Macworld ever criticized the joke that is Office for Mac?
I once saw a gaming mag that said that the Nvidia GF5200 wasx lower preformance than a Radion 7000, what was on the reverse side of the front cover? a 3-page centerfold style pull out ad for the Radion 9xxx
Tech mags are like wikipedia, take them for what they are worth, no one really knows the sources or intent ot alterior motives behind the content.
Besides, Macworld SUCKS...now I have advanced warning that tPC World will suck more...like MW has for ~3 years hat I have skimmed that worthless rag about our beloved fruity platform
Allow me to repeat part of my post again: "The Sanskrit origins of both words [pundit and avatar] is a coincidence [in my choosing a second Sanskrit word for an example]."
...
It doesn't merely imply it, it clearly states it.
Evidently I failed my reading comprehension test today.
Vinea
[Edit: needed to clarify some stuff that was badly worded.]
I stopped buying Macworld because the reviews were ridiculous. They were always favorable, and minimally critical - worthless. They were product descriptions.
So if the Crawford guy was running the show, I believe that he has no integrity - I used to read the industry a$$ kissing reviews until I grew tired of them.
~
no doubt. it seemed like they got a fax of what to write from a vendor, and printed it without even reviewing anything. lame. if this was the guy behind the scenes, bye bye PC World.
People saying that their reviews were only good, obviously didn't read the magazine. Plenty of reviews are negative.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,13...s/article.html