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  • Reply 21 of 36
    bergermeisterbergermeister Posts: 6,784member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kolchak View Post


    Just curious: how is it that a device designed for the Japanese market doesn't have a katakana keyboard? If Apple can localize the iPhone with a kana keyboard, that should be a pretty big advantage over the Sharp's QWERTY keyboard. With the iPhone keyboard being virtual, that should be fairly easy. As for broadband, in major metro areas, I think I would prefer picking up a wifi hotspot on the iPhone, which should be a lot faster than 3.6Mbps. Doesn't the iPhone have a dock connector like any iPod Video? If it does, it should have S-video and composite outputs, which most projectors support.



    A lot of people know just use romaji entry for typing Japanese now, thus the keyboard as it is.



    The BB on this phone doesn't need hotspots, so the user is freer to roam around. The usage area is still a bit limited, though.



    The video connector is built-in (needs a special cord) so there is no need to take a dock along.
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  • Reply 22 of 36
    tednditedndi Posts: 1,921member
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    Just because Apple patents something doesn't mean that they're going to use it. Examples include the iSight integrated displays for eye-to-eye video conferencing



    Actually, I think that technology will be exactly the multi touch for laptops and home displays.



    What better way to sense than a display that can "see" your finger.



    or, use it in the next version of the iphone where you don't need any additional camera. Just stare at the screen and you can do a vid ichat.
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  • Reply 23 of 36
    onlookeronlooker Posts: 5,252member
    I think the multi-touch display thing has taken most peoples heads out of the realm of comfort, and usability. I really don't see people reaching out to their displays on their desktops, it's totally uncomfortable. It would be better for it to be integrated into something that works more like a Wacom tablet that is comfortably sitting where your mouse is and you do all your movements from there where your arm is rested on your desktop. I have a 12x12 wacom that I use for everything and the day I got it I realized the wacom mouse was better than any mouse I was ever going to use.



    The only touch screen displays you'll probably see that are positioned vertically in the future are going to be like airport kiosks, refrigerators, microwaves, ATM machines, and things like that. It'll be totally uncomfortable to touch your display on home computer. Unless it's siting flat, and at that point you'll want it to be vertical for presentation. IMO the input device for home computers will be separated from the screen. It's just more sensible. Other than something like the Microsoft table thing. BUt that is a whole generation of computing away.
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  • Reply 24 of 36
    kolchakkolchak Posts: 1,398member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bergermeister View Post


    The BB on this phone doesn't need hotspots, so the user is freer to roam around. The usage area is still a bit limited, though.



    The video connector is built-in (needs a special cord) so there is no need to take a dock along.



    Seems to me both systems have limited coverage.



    As MusLtngBlue noted, the iPod Videos have two different ways of attaching video cables, not just docks.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by onlooker View Post


    I think the multi-touch display thing has taken most peoples heads out of the realm of comfort, and usability. I really don't see people reaching out to their displays on their desktops, it's totally uncomfortable. It would be better for it to be integrated into something that works more like a Wacom tablet that is comfortably sitting where your mouse is and you do all your movements from there where your arm is rested on your desktop.



    Buy an iGesture tablet. Oops. You can't. Can't even find them on eBay anymore, where there hasn't been even a single iGesture for sale in about six months. Rather telling about just how much people like their MultiTouch tablets.
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  • Reply 25 of 36
    onlookeronlooker Posts: 5,252member
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    Buy an iGesture tablet. Oops. You can't. Can't even find them on eBay anymore, where there hasn't been even a single iGesture for sale in about six months. Rather telling about just how much people like their MultiTouch tablets.



    I've never seen one until you just pointed that out, and I did a search. That is pretty close to what I was talking about. Apparently pretty hot item. I wonder why they seem to be no more?



    Quote:

    Important note!

    FingerWorks has ceased operations as a business.



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  • Reply 26 of 36
    slewisslewis Posts: 2,081member
    Null.
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  • Reply 27 of 36
    onlookeronlooker Posts: 5,252member
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    Actually they just bought it. See Fingerworks.







    Just because you see no immediate results on every Apple patent know to humankind doesn't mean they aren't working on an implementation.



    Sebastian





    Did Apple really buy FIngerworks?



    I guess so.



    Actually that is pretty awesome! I hope to see some Apple gesture pads at MWSF or sooner.
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  • Reply 28 of 36
    Quote:
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    Just because you see no immediate results on every Apple patent know to humankind doesn't mean they aren't working on an implementation.



    Sebastian



    I know, but it's unlikely that they really will use every single one. We have no way of knowing (at least for a while) if they will actually use it. That's why I see no use in having those be your only source. Though it is better than having no source.
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  • Reply 29 of 36
    kolchakkolchak Posts: 1,398member
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    I've never seen one until you just pointed that out, and I did a search. That is pretty close to what I was talking about. Apparently pretty hot item.



    You don't know the half of it. The iPhone implements a very small subset of the original MultiTouch gesture set. You can have my iGesture when you pry it from my cold, dead hand.
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  • Reply 30 of 36
    slewisslewis Posts: 2,081member
    Null.
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  • Reply 31 of 36
    Quote:
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    They even have patents on the design of a couple of staircases!



    Staircases, eh? I'd buy an Apple staircase
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  • Reply 32 of 36
    onlookeronlooker Posts: 5,252member
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    Staircases, eh? I'd buy an Apple staircase



    Probably for Apple stores,



    Nevertheless, these input devices are stellar! I'm betting Apple is putting some twists into their functionality. This isn't all about iPhone. iPhone interface has more to do with Jeff Haan, and Apple is paying him for that. I think it's obvious Apple wants to bring some of this functionality into their other products but reaching over your desk with an outstretched arm to your display is totally unreasonable. I imagine this is why Apple bought Fingerworks. I think we could even see bluetooth versions of similar devices used with a future version of TV. A better remote control.
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  • Reply 33 of 36
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    I think we could even see bluetooth versions of similar devices used with a future version of TV. A better remote control.



    More likely for infrared. But still very unlikely. That would be a $75+ remote. Totally unnecessary cost that will either drive up the price of the product if included with the unit, or lose money in production cost vs. demand.
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  • Reply 34 of 36
    onlookeronlooker Posts: 5,252member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MusLtngBlue View Post


    More likely for infrared. But still very unlikely. That would be a $75+ remote. Totally unnecessary cost that will either drive up the price of the product if included with the unit, or lose money in production cost vs. demand.



    Todays high tech remote controls are far more than $75. Where have you been? Logitech Harmony 1000 is $499.99, The Monster AVL300-S is $499.00 The Logitech Harmony 890 is $399.00, the

    Sony RM-AX4000, is 198.99, and the Bose Personal Music Center II is $149.00. Good remotes are expensive.



    Nevertheless I still expect to see something similar with future Macs. As for TV... By the time Apple figures out how to make good STB these shouldn't be that expensive.
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  • Reply 35 of 36
    bergermeisterbergermeister Posts: 6,784member
    Forget staircases... I want elevators with installed cameras!
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  • Reply 36 of 36
    Quote:
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    Forget staircases... I want elevators with installed cameras!



    I like the way you think
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