Saw the whole thing yesterday evening. Streaming was fine, no stutters or pauses.
I thought Steve came across as atypically a little flat.... still good, but he didn't seem as dynamic or self-assured as he did at MWSF. I don't think it was because Leopard didn't have the goods either... it was funny but he didn't seem to do that great job of pointing out why Leopard was good.
For example, from folks who are using the WWDC Beta of Leopard, apparently the thing is damn FAST. No more beachball. Browse network shares like lightning. Better multithreading. Finder is all-Cocoa, finally. No mention of any of that from Steve that I can recall.
Even when he was demoing things like Quick Look or Coverflow in the Finder, he wasn't saying the obvious but necessary-to-say things like, "Hey you can check out all your apps without launching them- isn't it great to have an OS that doesn't slow you down? Can work as fast as you can? Saves you time?" etc. etc.
He said the first part (preview and even scroll thru your docs w/out launching) but didn't hit the benefits/implications of that. Maybe its because he was speaking to developers and didn't want to insult their intelligence (to THEM, the bennies are obvious), but he had to have known that there'd be a much broader and larger audience checking it out too, through webcasts and coverage. All eyes are on Apple these days.
Also... no mention of resolution independence, even though apparently it's in there, according to folks that have the WWDC Beta? Zero mention of iLife updates?
There were some good parts. I thought Phil Schiller was extremely humorous and effective showing some of the fun things you can do with Leopard iChat (though Steve did talk over him a bit). And Steve drew a wonderful contrast with Windows with his "multiple versions of Leopard will be available... but all will be priced at $129 and contain everything... we think most people are going to pick the Ultimate version..." joke.
But overall, Steve seemed a little flat and off, like he was going through the motions a bit. He also massively overused the word "cool". He's gotta be careful, or its going to become to him what the word "hot" is to Paris Hilton.
Don't get me wrong, though... Steve a little bit off is still light-years better than Gates or Ballmer on their best public-speaking day. I just think that the case for Leopard was stronger than Steve presented, ironically. Didn't think I'd ever say that.
He might be well-served by taking one more crack at it when Leopard launches in October.
Saw the whole thing yesterday evening. Streaming was fine, no stutters or pauses.
I thought Steve came across as atypically a little flat.... still good, but he didn't seem as dynamic or self-assured as he did at MWSF. I don't think it was because Leopard didn't have the goods either... it was funny but he didn't seem to do that great job of pointing out why Leopard was good.
For example, from folks who are using the WWDC Beta of Leopard, apparently the thing is damn FAST. No more beachball. Browse network shares like lightning. Better multithreading. Finder is all-Cocoa, finally. No mention of any of that from Steve that I can recall.
Even when he was demoing things like Quick Look or Coverflow in the Finder, he wasn't saying the obvious but necessary-to-say things like, "Hey you can check out all your apps without launching them- isn't it great to have an OS that doesn't slow you down? Can work as fast as you can? Saves you time?" etc. etc.
He said the first part (preview and even scroll thru your docs w/out launching) but didn't hit the benefits/implications of that. Maybe its because he was speaking to developers and didn't want to insult their intelligence (to THEM, the bennies are obvious), but he had to have known that there'd be a much broader and larger audience checking it out too, through webcasts and coverage. All eyes are on Apple these days.
There were good parts. I thought Phil Schiller was extremely humorous and effective showing some of the fun things you can do with Leopard iChat. And Steve drew a wonderful contrast with his "multiple versions of Leopard will be available... but all will be priced at $129 and contain everything... we think most people are going to pick the Ultimate version" joke.
But overall, Steve seemed a little flat and off, like he was going through the motions a bit. He also massively overused the word "cool". He's gotta be careful, or its going to become to him what the word "hot" is to Paris Hilton.
Don't get me wrong, though... Steve a little bit off is still light-years better than Gates or Ballmer on their best public-speaking day. I just think that the case for Leopard was stronger than Steve presented, ironically. Didn't think I'd ever say that.
He might be well-served by taking one more crack at it when Leopard launches in October.
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Yeah, there's definitely something.....odd going on.
The sort of lackluster feature set demoed, Job's low-key pitch, features that seem to be vanishing without comment, and of course the delay....
Hope it doesn't point to any serious problems with the roll-out.
Hopefully, we can start to get some feedback from beta users (in the vaguest possible terms, of course) regarding how things seem to be stacking up.
Hopefully, we can start to get some feedback from beta users (in the vaguest possible terms, of course) regarding how things seem to be stacking up.
We already are. Unfortunately, you have to check out the forums at MacRumors to hear about it right now. Haven't seen anyone on AI posting about the WWDC Beta of Leopard, yet.
From what I'm hearing over there, the unsung feature of Leopard is SPEED. No more beachball. Again, very surprised Jobs did not mention that.
We already are. Unfortunately, you have to check out the forums at MacRumors to hear about it right now. Haven't seen anyone on AI posting about the WWDC Beta of Leopard, yet.
From what I'm hearing over there, the unsung feature of Leopard is SPEED. No more beachball. Again, very surprised Jobs did not mention that.
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Very glad to here about teh snappy?, but I'm curious to know the fate of things like remote desktop in iChat, res independence, and fast user switching in Boot Camp. Or, for that matter, if any other announced "features" seem to be MIA.
Unfortunately, you'd have to go over to the MR forums and ask over there. Though apparently res-independence IS in there, according to someone that has the WWDC Beta.
Disaster? Macworld New York 2001 was tedium - complete with a tutorial on the Mhz Myth - and broadcast live on ZD-TV (I don't think it was TechTV then) because everyone was expecting a flat panel iMac.
This is frickin' nirvana.
Classic Apple Apologist. I agree though, and reject any Apple Apologist labels I or others may place on myself.
Reading text summaries of the announcements doesn't really capture the feel of the Keynote.
It certainly wasn't a disaster. It was interesting in many ways. The WWDC betas are feature complete but that doesn't mean that Jobs spoke about every feature.
I like the Dock and Finder changes. I like Safari on windows..it promotes Webkit and creates a roadmap of future web technology.
Quick look is stunning. If it's as fluid as the demo portrays it's going to be like Expose. You will not want to be on a computer without it. Although Preview opens up quickly I'd prefer not to have to open up an application when I need to view a PDF or photo in a decent size. Ql fixes that quickly and easily.
Mail/iCal/Sync/- Jobs didn't even go over these in detail. The ability to pull dates and contact info from email is essential to me. Proper sync services is essential and efficient use of my calendar (iCal links with Calendar Store which is write accessable from 3rd party apps). Another "small" but HUGE update for my needs.
I "will" use Time Machine..I don't like losing documents.
I know there's more to Leopard than the keynote. Reading between the lines a bit you can see some stuff that is still hidden and ready to bubble up to the surface in the future.
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I thought Steve came across as atypically a little flat.... still good, but he didn't seem as dynamic or self-assured as he did at MWSF. I don't think it was because Leopard didn't have the goods either... it was funny but he didn't seem to do that great job of pointing out why Leopard was good.
For example, from folks who are using the WWDC Beta of Leopard, apparently the thing is damn FAST. No more beachball. Browse network shares like lightning. Better multithreading. Finder is all-Cocoa, finally. No mention of any of that from Steve that I can recall.
Even when he was demoing things like Quick Look or Coverflow in the Finder, he wasn't saying the obvious but necessary-to-say things like, "Hey you can check out all your apps without launching them- isn't it great to have an OS that doesn't slow you down? Can work as fast as you can? Saves you time?" etc. etc.
He said the first part (preview and even scroll thru your docs w/out launching) but didn't hit the benefits/implications of that. Maybe its because he was speaking to developers and didn't want to insult their intelligence (to THEM, the bennies are obvious), but he had to have known that there'd be a much broader and larger audience checking it out too, through webcasts and coverage. All eyes are on Apple these days.
Also... no mention of resolution independence, even though apparently it's in there, according to folks that have the WWDC Beta? Zero mention of iLife updates?
There were some good parts. I thought Phil Schiller was extremely humorous and effective showing some of the fun things you can do with Leopard iChat (though Steve did talk over him a bit). And Steve drew a wonderful contrast with Windows with his "multiple versions of Leopard will be available... but all will be priced at $129 and contain everything... we think most people are going to pick the Ultimate version..." joke.
But overall, Steve seemed a little flat and off, like he was going through the motions a bit. He also massively overused the word "cool". He's gotta be careful, or its going to become to him what the word "hot" is to Paris Hilton.
Don't get me wrong, though... Steve a little bit off is still light-years better than Gates or Ballmer on their best public-speaking day. I just think that the case for Leopard was stronger than Steve presented, ironically. Didn't think I'd ever say that.
He might be well-served by taking one more crack at it when Leopard launches in October.
.
Saw the whole thing yesterday evening. Streaming was fine, no stutters or pauses.
I thought Steve came across as atypically a little flat.... still good, but he didn't seem as dynamic or self-assured as he did at MWSF. I don't think it was because Leopard didn't have the goods either... it was funny but he didn't seem to do that great job of pointing out why Leopard was good.
For example, from folks who are using the WWDC Beta of Leopard, apparently the thing is damn FAST. No more beachball. Browse network shares like lightning. Better multithreading. Finder is all-Cocoa, finally. No mention of any of that from Steve that I can recall.
Even when he was demoing things like Quick Look or Coverflow in the Finder, he wasn't saying the obvious but necessary-to-say things like, "Hey you can check out all your apps without launching them- isn't it great to have an OS that doesn't slow you down? Can work as fast as you can? Saves you time?" etc. etc.
He said the first part (preview and even scroll thru your docs w/out launching) but didn't hit the benefits/implications of that. Maybe its because he was speaking to developers and didn't want to insult their intelligence (to THEM, the bennies are obvious), but he had to have known that there'd be a much broader and larger audience checking it out too, through webcasts and coverage. All eyes are on Apple these days.
There were good parts. I thought Phil Schiller was extremely humorous and effective showing some of the fun things you can do with Leopard iChat. And Steve drew a wonderful contrast with his "multiple versions of Leopard will be available... but all will be priced at $129 and contain everything... we think most people are going to pick the Ultimate version" joke.
But overall, Steve seemed a little flat and off, like he was going through the motions a bit. He also massively overused the word "cool". He's gotta be careful, or its going to become to him what the word "hot" is to Paris Hilton.
Don't get me wrong, though... Steve a little bit off is still light-years better than Gates or Ballmer on their best public-speaking day. I just think that the case for Leopard was stronger than Steve presented, ironically. Didn't think I'd ever say that.
He might be well-served by taking one more crack at it when Leopard launches in October.
.
Yeah, there's definitely something.....odd going on.
The sort of lackluster feature set demoed, Job's low-key pitch, features that seem to be vanishing without comment, and of course the delay....
Hope it doesn't point to any serious problems with the roll-out.
Hopefully, we can start to get some feedback from beta users (in the vaguest possible terms, of course) regarding how things seem to be stacking up.
Hopefully, we can start to get some feedback from beta users (in the vaguest possible terms, of course) regarding how things seem to be stacking up.
We already are. Unfortunately, you have to check out the forums at MacRumors to hear about it right now. Haven't seen anyone on AI posting about the WWDC Beta of Leopard, yet.
From what I'm hearing over there, the unsung feature of Leopard is SPEED. No more beachball. Again, very surprised Jobs did not mention that.
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We already are. Unfortunately, you have to check out the forums at MacRumors to hear about it right now. Haven't seen anyone on AI posting about the WWDC Beta of Leopard, yet.
From what I'm hearing over there, the unsung feature of Leopard is SPEED. No more beachball. Again, very surprised Jobs did not mention that.
.
Very glad to here about teh snappy?, but I'm curious to know the fate of things like remote desktop in iChat, res independence, and fast user switching in Boot Camp. Or, for that matter, if any other announced "features" seem to be MIA.
.
Disaster? Macworld New York 2001 was tedium - complete with a tutorial on the Mhz Myth - and broadcast live on ZD-TV (I don't think it was TechTV then) because everyone was expecting a flat panel iMac.
This is frickin' nirvana.
Classic Apple Apologist. I agree though, and reject any Apple Apologist labels I or others may place on myself.
Classic Apple Apologist. I agree though, and reject any Apple Apologist labels I or others may place on myself.
I prefer the label Apple Relativist.
Reading text summaries of the announcements doesn't really capture the feel of the Keynote.
It certainly wasn't a disaster. It was interesting in many ways. The WWDC betas are feature complete but that doesn't mean that Jobs spoke about every feature.
I like the Dock and Finder changes. I like Safari on windows..it promotes Webkit and creates a roadmap of future web technology.
Quick look is stunning. If it's as fluid as the demo portrays it's going to be like Expose. You will not want to be on a computer without it. Although Preview opens up quickly I'd prefer not to have to open up an application when I need to view a PDF or photo in a decent size. Ql fixes that quickly and easily.
Mail/iCal/Sync/- Jobs didn't even go over these in detail. The ability to pull dates and contact info from email is essential to me. Proper sync services is essential and efficient use of my calendar (iCal links with Calendar Store which is write accessable from 3rd party apps). Another "small" but HUGE update for my needs.
I "will" use Time Machine..I don't like losing documents.
I know there's more to Leopard than the keynote. Reading between the lines a bit you can see some stuff that is still hidden and ready to bubble up to the surface in the future.