They've got that covered. It's called dropped call. I don't think anyone has ever actually completed a cell phone conversation of more than 5 minutes. Even Verizon to Verizon with maximum signal strength still drops regularly in my experience.
I've almost never had a dropped call, except when someone is calling me from Manhattan, and is moving around in a car.
The whole idea of plans that aren't unlimited just blows my mind. Who wants to count the number of minutes they talk or the kilobytes that they transmit?
I think carriers are wary of "unlimited" talk time for fear that teens will just stay on the phone 24/7 whether they're talking or not.
I think that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
I think everything you say is shit.
I think you're a liar. That's right, I think you're a filthy, lying, rat-bastard son-of-a-bitch.
And I'm gonna tell all of my friends not to listen to a word you say, you lousy, useless, moron.
Oh I hope you're happy! I hope you're happy, now that you've just propogated a vile lie in this good and wholesome forum where people are free to express their views without persecution. I hope you're happy because now everyone thinks teens will just stay on the phone 24/7 whether they're talking or not! And maybe you'll convince some, but I know... ohh I know that that's a flat out LIE!
It's not a matter of what your phone can do, it's what the capabilities of the other persons phone. Most people don't have phones that do "real" email. So unless you want to give them a call to tell them to check their email every time you send them a message, you'll need MMS. My phone does "REAL" email, but not many of my friends phones do, but pretty much all current gen phones do MMS.
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I've never sent an MMS?ever. Even though I get 200 of them a month.
MMS was invented for phones that can't do real email. iPhone can view and create emails with attached photos. I don't really see a need for MMS.
I think carriers are wary of "unlimited" talk time for fear that teens will just stay on the phone 24/7 whether they're talking or not.[/QUOTE]
also, limiting voice and data usage helps to increase battery life, think about it, if you are sweating how many minutes or how much data you have left for the month, you won't spend that extra time on the phone talking or on the net looking up some unimportant BS
Seems like this phone is geared to the gadget freaks and iPod lovers. I'm not really going to be doing anything crucial to mankind on this phone. Most of it will be unimportant BS. I wonder how appleinsider will look on Safari for iPhone.
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Originally Posted by tcbritt
I think carriers are wary of "unlimited" talk time for fear that teens will just stay on the phone 24/7 whether they're talking or not.
also, limiting voice and data usage helps to increase battery life, think about it, if you are sweating how many minutes or how much data you have left for the month, you won't spend that extra time on the phone talking or on the net looking up some unimportant BS[/QUOTE]
I've almost never had a dropped call, except when someone is calling me from Manhattan, and is moving around in a car.
I suppose you're joking, but still...
Yeah it was a joke, I forgot the smiley. But it is annoying. Both of our phones are brand new and high quality, but they still drop for no apparent reason. Unexpectedly I was getting perfect reception 30 feet below ground in the airport train but then dropped while sitting at the gate waiting area next to the window.
According to AT&T spokesman Mark Siegel, a report today that AT&T will wait until the day of iPhone’s launch to disclose rate plans for the device is inaccurate. “We will disclose before the 29th,” said Siegel, noting that customers will be able to show up at stores that day knowing how much they will be charged for both the Apple-developed hardware and AT&T’s cellular service plans. “It’s not going to be anything exotic,” Siegel told iLounge, confirming that there will be separate voice and data services components to its iPhone service plans, rather than the one-size-fits-all plans some had expected. As previously stated by both companies, and re-confirmed by Siegel, a two-year service commitment will still be required.
Should certain locations sell out, the exec said sales people will take mail orders from customers, and the iPhones will be shipped in 3 to 5 days. To discourage scalpers, the carrier also plans to limit how many phones each customer can buy, but has not said how many that will be.
I guess this confirms that you don't have to sign up for a plan in order to buy the phone... So it should be a short time before the phone is unlocked and we can use it with other carriers...
I predict ebay in canada is going to be selling these like hot cakes in a few weeks...
I'm betting that AT&T will charge $49 for unlimited internet/visual voicemail plus standard prices for however many minutes you want. It's simple and people will pay it.
I can personally vouch for Cingular's beefing up the EDGE network over the last few months. I regularly get 150-190 kbit/sec on my Treo now, whereas I hardly ever got more than 100k six months ago. This is in San Francisco (and on a recent trip to Oregon).
And for all of the Californians planning on driving up to Oregon, make sure you have the GoogleMap already on the phone before trying to drive Forest Service roads in the winter.
I've never sent an MMS?ever. Even though I get 200 of them a month.
MMS was invented for phones that can't do real email. iPhone can view and create emails with attached photos. I don't really see a need for MMS.
I have never sent an MMS either, but received several. The thing is, there are far more phones capable of sending MMS (vs. email with attachment).
On AT&T network, when you receive MMS and your phone (e.g., iPhone) is not capable of viewing it, it will arrive in the form of SMS with a URL where you can view the contents. Perhaps that's a workable solution for some, but I would like to be able to view it.
I think that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
I think everything you say is shit.
I think you're a liar. That's right, I think you're a filthy, lying, rat-bastard son-of-a-bitch.
And I'm gonna tell all of my friends not to listen to a word you say, you lousy, useless, moron.
Oh I hope you're happy! I hope you're happy, now that you've just propogated a vile lie in this good and wholesome forum where people are free to express their views without persecution. I hope you're happy because now everyone thinks teens will just stay on the phone 24/7 whether they're talking or not! And maybe you'll convince some, but I know... ohh I know that that's a flat out LIE!
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They've got that covered. It's called dropped call. I don't think anyone has ever actually completed a cell phone conversation of more than 5 minutes. Even Verizon to Verizon with maximum signal strength still drops regularly in my experience.
I've almost never had a dropped call, except when someone is calling me from Manhattan, and is moving around in a car.
I suppose you're joking, but still...
The whole idea of plans that aren't unlimited just blows my mind. Who wants to count the number of minutes they talk or the kilobytes that they transmit?
YUCK! ?Steve Jobs
I've almost never had a dropped call, except when someone is calling me from Manhattan, and is moving around in a car.
I suppose you're joking, but still...
I seldom get dropped calls, except when driving over certain hills in SF.
I think carriers are wary of "unlimited" talk time for fear that teens will just stay on the phone 24/7 whether they're talking or not.
I think that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
I think everything you say is shit.
I think you're a liar. That's right, I think you're a filthy, lying, rat-bastard son-of-a-bitch.
And I'm gonna tell all of my friends not to listen to a word you say, you lousy, useless, moron.
Oh I hope you're happy! I hope you're happy, now that you've just propogated a vile lie in this good and wholesome forum where people are free to express their views without persecution. I hope you're happy because now everyone thinks teens will just stay on the phone 24/7 whether they're talking or not! And maybe you'll convince some, but I know... ohh I know that that's a flat out LIE!
j/k
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/new...-earlier/10375
Go Banana, got prozac??
I've never sent an MMS?ever. Even though I get 200 of them a month.
MMS was invented for phones that can't do real email. iPhone can view and create emails with attached photos. I don't really see a need for MMS.
also, limiting voice and data usage helps to increase battery life, think about it, if you are sweating how many minutes or how much data you have left for the month, you won't spend that extra time on the phone talking or on the net looking up some unimportant BS
I think carriers are wary of "unlimited" talk time for fear that teens will just stay on the phone 24/7 whether they're talking or not.
also, limiting voice and data usage helps to increase battery life, think about it, if you are sweating how many minutes or how much data you have left for the month, you won't spend that extra time on the phone talking or on the net looking up some unimportant BS[/QUOTE]
I've almost never had a dropped call, except when someone is calling me from Manhattan, and is moving around in a car.
I suppose you're joking, but still...
Yeah it was a joke, I forgot the smiley. But it is annoying. Both of our phones are brand new and high quality, but they still drop for no apparent reason. Unexpectedly I was getting perfect reception 30 feet below ground in the airport train but then dropped while sitting at the gate waiting area next to the window.
Go Banana, got prozac??
Ohhh, ohh... think you're funny do ya?
Shut your mouth or I?ll shut it for ya. And if you think I?m kidding, just try me. Try me! Because I would love it!!
j/k
Ohhh, ohh... think you're funny do ya?
Shut your mouth or I’ll shut it for ya. And if you think I’m kidding, just try me. Try me! Because I would love it!!
j/k
good one Costanza
An AT&T spokesman has denied that they will wait until the 29th.
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/new...-earlier/10375
Should certain locations sell out, the exec said sales people will take mail orders from customers, and the iPhones will be shipped in 3 to 5 days. To discourage scalpers, the carrier also plans to limit how many phones each customer can buy, but has not said how many that will be.
I guess this confirms that you don't have to sign up for a plan in order to buy the phone... So it should be a short time before the phone is unlocked and we can use it with other carriers...
I predict ebay in canada is going to be selling these like hot cakes in a few weeks...
Ohhh, ohh... think you're funny do ya?
Yes.
I can personally vouch for Cingular's beefing up the EDGE network over the last few months. I regularly get 150-190 kbit/sec on my Treo now, whereas I hardly ever got more than 100k six months ago. This is in San Francisco (and on a recent trip to Oregon).
And for all of the Californians planning on driving up to Oregon, make sure you have the GoogleMap already on the phone before trying to drive Forest Service roads in the winter.
I've never sent an MMS?ever. Even though I get 200 of them a month.
MMS was invented for phones that can't do real email. iPhone can view and create emails with attached photos. I don't really see a need for MMS.
I have never sent an MMS either, but received several. The thing is, there are far more phones capable of sending MMS (vs. email with attachment).
On AT&T network, when you receive MMS and your phone (e.g., iPhone) is not capable of viewing it, it will arrive in the form of SMS with a URL where you can view the contents. Perhaps that's a workable solution for some, but I would like to be able to view it.
I think that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
I think everything you say is shit.
I think you're a liar. That's right, I think you're a filthy, lying, rat-bastard son-of-a-bitch.
And I'm gonna tell all of my friends not to listen to a word you say, you lousy, useless, moron.
Oh I hope you're happy! I hope you're happy, now that you've just propogated a vile lie in this good and wholesome forum where people are free to express their views without persecution. I hope you're happy because now everyone thinks teens will just stay on the phone 24/7 whether they're talking or not! And maybe you'll convince some, but I know... ohh I know that that's a flat out LIE!
j/k
I like it better when you don't post.
i'm sure that would be enough to make verizon say no thanks.