I think a better analogy for the introduction of the iPhone is the introduction of color television.
While mobile phones have been around for a long time, no one cell phone has been dominant or revolutionized the mobile communications experience in the way that I believe the iPhone will.
I predict that in 5 years AT&T stores will sell at least 3 models of iPhones and won't offer many other phones to choose from. I see AT&T being able to offer better service by focusing primarily on the iPhone platform. At the same time being more profitable because they don't have to stock and support so many different phones.
Of course, it always help to think that its an apple product that's going to redefine an industry. BTW, who remembers who first came out with color TV? Yeah, you may want to think about that.
And in 5 years, they're still going to stock as many phones. Why not? Just because some people think the iPhone is the greatest thing ever? Its still going to be an expensive product (its apple, of course it is), and there's a lot of people who don't need or want a fancy, expensive iPhone.
Oh, and in 5 years, the contract is up, so AT&T better have some other phones, because if Apple goes to Verizon (oh, right, I should warn you that the other carriers will probably still be around, although I understand everyone here thinks they're all out of business come July 1) or the like.
Wasn't meant to be offensive, but true to real life. We tend to forget the bad things in life, while cherishing the good.
Sorry, that's not even close to being correct. People remember to this day where they were on Dec 7, 1941, they remember where they were when they heard JFK was shot, they'll remember where they were when they first heard what happened on 9/11.
You remember that which is affects you emotionally, regardless of it being good or bad.
Oh, and it wasn't that funny, and I doubt anyone would want any type of device embedded into their person.
Again, only on bloody AppleInsider. iPhone Preparations turns suddenly into how we should or shouldn't remember 9/11. ...Please, I aim to understand all sides regarding this event, but please take it to AppleOutsider. Look, I even made a thread for you all and here is the link. Honestly, please go there and hash it out. I also made the title as controversial as possible for you all to go nuts on:
Again, only on bloody AppleInsider. iPhone Preparations turns suddenly into how we should or shouldn't remember 9/11. ...Please, I aim to understand all sides regarding this event, but please take it to AppleOutsider. Look, I even made a thread for you all and here is the link. Honestly, please go there and hash it out. I also made the title as controversial as possible for you all to go nuts on:
I think the problem here is that with all the 'talk' about the iphone, there's really nothing to say. No one really knows anything about it. Its just as easy can be a flop as a hit. Even trying to figure out any of its features is mostly guesswork. So its easy to get distracted.
Sorry, that's not even close to being correct. People remember to this day where they were on Dec 7, 1941, they remember where they were when they heard JFK was shot, they'll remember where they were when they first heard what happened on 9/11.
You remember that which is affects you emotionally, regardless of it being good or bad.
That's true.
I still remember walking down the hall, going to class, in junior high school, when a student shouted that Kennedy had been shot. I didn't believe it, and only after sitting down at my desk, when the teacher told us, did it sink in.
How could that be forgotten?
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Oh, and it wasn't that funny, and I doubt anyone would want any type of device embedded into their person.
Mildly amusing.
But, I am convinced that embedded devices will become common. People are already embedding transcievers under their skin that automatically opens encoded doors and such. Pacemakers have been around for decades.
Other artificial organs are either out, or are being planned. Artificial knees, etc.
I've read a ton of these at&t iDay postings, and none of them have mentioned anything about how long it will take to register EACH customer.
If a 2-year agreement is necessary--meaning that you can't buy an iPhone outright without a service plan and contract--that means the actual purchase transaction is going to take 15-30 minutes. And that's being VERY optimistic.
The few times that I've purchased a phone and had to perform some account activity, it took FOREVER. They usually have to manually call in and change ESNs, SKUs, SIM card numbers, etc., and there is always something happening that prevents the process from going smoothly.
It's not going to be as simple as walking in, asking for an iPhone, giving them your cash, then walking out.
I predict chaos and mayhem, making the PS3 launch look like a church sermon.
Dunno - one thing that has been rumored is using an iTunes account to register the wee beastie. If that's the case, then go in, plunk down your cash, and register it yourself when you get home. I'll be shocked if it *is* the case, but hey, we can dream...
Dunno - one thing that has been rumored is using an iTunes account to register the wee beastie. If that's the case, then go in, plunk down your cash, and register it yourself when you get home. I'll be shocked if it *is* the case, but hey, we can dream...
Having to get an itunes account did seem to be a bit fishy. I guess it's another way Apple is trying to get us to buy stuff.
As Apple is now the third largest music reseller in the US, they feel that a bunch of people already are signed up, or won't mind signing up.
I'm sure they will. If it weren't for the rather obvious standardization of a software distribution channel that it represents, I'd be skeptical too. On Day One, it may be how you register. In the future, I suspect it'll be how you download iPhone-approved software. Just speculation.
I'm sure they will. If it weren't for the rather obvious standardization of a software distribution channel that it represents, I'd be skeptical too. On Day One, it may be how you register. In the future, I suspect it'll be how you download iPhone-approved software. Just speculation.
I'm all for irony and a little black comedy but that falls way short of tasteful. Maybe if someone you knew died in that horrific event you would think twice before posting that trash.
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Although I agree that people tend to forget the horrible, one should be more sensitive. We are not very far past 9/11 and I lost my best friend in the second plane that hit the World Trade Centers...
I am really sorry about that, it was a sad day for a lot of people. Still, it's been five and a half years.
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I predict chaos and mayhem, making the PS3 launch look like a church sermon.
I really don't remember there being any problems with the PS3 launch, though I don't keep track that much. I do know that there still isn't a very steady supply of Wii.
...I really don't remember there being any problems with the PS3 launch, though I don't keep track that much. I do know that there still isn't a very steady supply of Wii.
Let's just say that the PS3 and Wii launches will be, well, ancient, ancient history come the next few days.
As much as I want the iphone the big rush or panic to get one is confusing. - It's not like not like Apple is going to stop selling the phone on July 1st, it's here to stay!
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I think a better analogy for the introduction of the iPhone is the introduction of color television.
While mobile phones have been around for a long time, no one cell phone has been dominant or revolutionized the mobile communications experience in the way that I believe the iPhone will.
I predict that in 5 years AT&T stores will sell at least 3 models of iPhones and won't offer many other phones to choose from. I see AT&T being able to offer better service by focusing primarily on the iPhone platform. At the same time being more profitable because they don't have to stock and support so many different phones.
Of course, it always help to think that its an apple product that's going to redefine an industry. BTW, who remembers who first came out with color TV? Yeah, you may want to think about that.
And in 5 years, they're still going to stock as many phones. Why not? Just because some people think the iPhone is the greatest thing ever? Its still going to be an expensive product (its apple, of course it is), and there's a lot of people who don't need or want a fancy, expensive iPhone.
Oh, and in 5 years, the contract is up, so AT&T better have some other phones, because if Apple goes to Verizon (oh, right, I should warn you that the other carriers will probably still be around, although I understand everyone here thinks they're all out of business come July 1) or the like.
Wasn't meant to be offensive, but true to real life. We tend to forget the bad things in life, while cherishing the good.
Sorry, that's not even close to being correct. People remember to this day where they were on Dec 7, 1941, they remember where they were when they heard JFK was shot, they'll remember where they were when they first heard what happened on 9/11.
You remember that which is affects you emotionally, regardless of it being good or bad.
Oh, and it wasn't that funny, and I doubt anyone would want any type of device embedded into their person.
iPhone Event 6/29 will make us forget 9/11
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=75874
Wasn't meant to be offensive, but true to real life. We tend to forget the bad things in life, while cherishing the good.
Remember... "9/11" Is a wholly owned trademark. Permission must be obtained to use it, unless you're running for political office.
it's sarcasm.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Dave
Again, only on bloody AppleInsider. iPhone Preparations turns suddenly into how we should or shouldn't remember 9/11.
iPhone Event 6/29 will make us forget 9/11
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=75874
I think the problem here is that with all the 'talk' about the iphone, there's really nothing to say. No one really knows anything about it. Its just as easy can be a flop as a hit. Even trying to figure out any of its features is mostly guesswork. So its easy to get distracted.
It's not irony, it's sarcasm.
I wish people would stop calling everything sarcasm.
Sorry, that's not even close to being correct. People remember to this day where they were on Dec 7, 1941, they remember where they were when they heard JFK was shot, they'll remember where they were when they first heard what happened on 9/11.
You remember that which is affects you emotionally, regardless of it being good or bad.
That's true.
I still remember walking down the hall, going to class, in junior high school, when a student shouted that Kennedy had been shot. I didn't believe it, and only after sitting down at my desk, when the teacher told us, did it sink in.
How could that be forgotten?
Oh, and it wasn't that funny, and I doubt anyone would want any type of device embedded into their person.
Mildly amusing.
But, I am convinced that embedded devices will become common. People are already embedding transcievers under their skin that automatically opens encoded doors and such. Pacemakers have been around for decades.
Other artificial organs are either out, or are being planned. Artificial knees, etc.
As time goes on, we will become used to the idea.
I have even more radical concepts.
If a 2-year agreement is necessary--meaning that you can't buy an iPhone outright without a service plan and contract--that means the actual purchase transaction is going to take 15-30 minutes. And that's being VERY optimistic.
The few times that I've purchased a phone and had to perform some account activity, it took FOREVER. They usually have to manually call in and change ESNs, SKUs, SIM card numbers, etc., and there is always something happening that prevents the process from going smoothly.
It's not going to be as simple as walking in, asking for an iPhone, giving them your cash, then walking out.
I predict chaos and mayhem, making the PS3 launch look like a church sermon.
Dunno - one thing that has been rumored is using an iTunes account to register the wee beastie. If that's the case, then go in, plunk down your cash, and register it yourself when you get home. I'll be shocked if it *is* the case, but hey, we can dream...
Having to get an itunes account did seem to be a bit fishy. I guess it's another way Apple is trying to get us to buy stuff.
As Apple is now the third largest music reseller in the US, they feel that a bunch of people already are signed up, or won't mind signing up.
Some people will resent it though.
I'm sure they will. If it weren't for the rather obvious standardization of a software distribution channel that it represents, I'd be skeptical too. On Day One, it may be how you register. In the future, I suspect it'll be how you download iPhone-approved software. Just speculation.
It sounds logical.
I wish people would stop calling everything sarcasm.
Hey, give him a break. He was being sarcastic.
Hey, give him a break. He was being sarcastic.
Isn't it ironic?
I'm all for irony and a little black comedy but that falls way short of tasteful. Maybe if someone you knew died in that horrific event you would think twice before posting that trash.
Although I agree that people tend to forget the horrible, one should be more sensitive. We are not very far past 9/11 and I lost my best friend in the second plane that hit the World Trade Centers...
I am really sorry about that, it was a sad day for a lot of people. Still, it's been five and a half years.
I predict chaos and mayhem, making the PS3 launch look like a church sermon.
I really don't remember there being any problems with the PS3 launch, though I don't keep track that much. I do know that there still isn't a very steady supply of Wii.
...I really don't remember there being any problems with the PS3 launch, though I don't keep track that much. I do know that there still isn't a very steady supply of Wii.
Let's just say that the PS3 and Wii launches will be, well, ancient, ancient history come the next few days.