Not to be rude, but there's no chance in hell Apple will release Safari in a Classic version. It would be a lot of work at this point (WebCore, JavascriptCore wrapped in Cocoa), and they consider OS 9 "dead" in terms of development.
There's a remote chance that it'll run in Rhapsody, which will work on any 603, 603e, 604, or 604e. I am not sure if it works on a 601 or on G3s.
I just got a copy of Rhapsody DR2 today, and I have yet to install it on a computer but I heard that since the native language is Cocoa, then Cocoa apps should work on it. I find it cool because it's a way to get all the nice features of OS X onto an older computer, without all the unnecessary bloat.
BTW, OS 9 does suck pretty bad. It's very unstable. If I had an older machine that wasn't OS X capable, I'd probably put a few different OSes on it. I've been collecting them . Right now I have Rhapsody DR2 and Yellow Dog Linux 2.3, and in a few days I should have BeOS 4. Those all work on PPC Macs.
The problem with that is Cocoa has changed since Rhapsody DR2. That means that if a program like Safari is using 'things' not present in Rhapsody, it will break and not run. I have a feeling this is most definitely the case. A lot has changed.
Luca, how did you get a copy of Rhapsody? I thought it was never released. I've been looking for an OS to put on an old Performa 6300. Looking in to mkLinux, but I'm still pretty open.
<strong>Luca, how did you get a copy of Rhapsody? I thought it was never released. I've been looking for an OS to put on an old Performa 6300. Looking in to mkLinux, but I'm still pretty open.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I got a copy from another person who was interested, on the LEM-Swap list (http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/swap.html). It's not an original CD, he got a CD and then he copied it and sent me a copy. As I said, I haven't tried it (and I don't have a 603/e or 604/e capable of running it), but my brother is going to try using it on his PowerBook 3400. Hopefully I'll be able to find some old versions of some of those Cocoa applications (I believe OmniWeb is fairly old...) and run those.
According to him, it boots into OS 8.0 to install. I don't know how he got it, but he had posted an ad to the list asking if anyone had a copy for sale, so I emailed him and asked if he would send me a copy if he acquired one.
It could be really slow on your 6300... the 603 was a fairly crappy processor. But it should work.
I got it for free; he was kind enough to not even charge shipping for it. So if you want a copy, send me a private message.
However, I really don't want to get hundreds of replies from people wanting me to send them free CDs of Rhapsody all over the country/world... shipping one CD isn't a big deal, but burning a bunch and shipping a bunch requires a big investment of time and money into something that really doesn't give me any direct benefit (other than good karma )
So if you really, really want a copy, send me a private message and we can work something out either through shipping it or by sending it via AIM or something (during the week, that's when I'm at my dorm that usually has hyper-fast broadband).
[quote]I just got a copy of Rhapsody DR2 today, and I have yet to install it on a computer but I heard that since the native language is Cocoa, then Cocoa apps should work on it.<hr></blockquote>
No.
It has already been said - but I believe it bears repeating, that there have been a ridiculous number of changes in the Cocoa API since then.
Hell, even some of the simple apps I write now won't compile on anything less than Jaguar due to the way the API has evolved.
I also learned that Rhapsody only works on 604 and 604e based 8500s, 9500s, 8600s, and 9600s. Even then, only some models are supported - the 300 and 350 MHz x600s are not supported.
My brother found that out the hard way when his 3400 stopped booting up. Luckily, that's fixed now.
Finally, in an installation manual for it, it says that it doesn't have any security features so it's advised not to be using it on the web. Of course, I wonder if you can even find a browser for it...
My brother and I might even both pitch in for an 8500 or something to run it on
There was talk about porting Phoenix to Mac OS 9 but since the Mozilla tree is no longer supporting Mac OS 9 as an officially supported build it would take a bit of effort from someone.
Actually, one of the first browsers for Rhapsody was OmniWeb. I remember running it in Rhapsody.
I was heavily involved in QuickTime Streaming at the time, and was on the seed list for QT 4+, and in turn, was put on the Rhapsody seed list. If someone wanted to buy my original Rhapsody CD, I'd probably be willing to sell it
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In my opinion, I believe safari is more likely for windows than for classic.
I hate OS 9. It needs all the help it can get to die a quicker death.
<strong>Any chance Apple will release a version for classic?</strong><hr></blockquote>
About as much chance as them releasing a version of iCal, iSync or iLife - 0%
<strong>Any chance Apple will release a version for classic?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Sure. Port Cocoa to OS 9 and we can talk about it.
I just got a copy of Rhapsody DR2 today, and I have yet to install it on a computer but I heard that since the native language is Cocoa, then Cocoa apps should work on it. I find it cool because it's a way to get all the nice features of OS X onto an older computer, without all the unnecessary bloat.
BTW, OS 9 does suck pretty bad. It's very unstable. If I had an older machine that wasn't OS X capable, I'd probably put a few different OSes on it. I've been collecting them
<strong>What would be the point? Who the fsck uses 9 anymore anyways?
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Heck, I'm still using 8.6.
<strong>Luca, how did you get a copy of Rhapsody? I thought it was never released. I've been looking for an OS to put on an old Performa 6300. Looking in to mkLinux, but I'm still pretty open.</strong><hr></blockquote>
use beOS
According to him, it boots into OS 8.0 to install. I don't know how he got it, but he had posted an ad to the list asking if anyone had a copy for sale, so I emailed him and asked if he would send me a copy if he acquired one.
It could be really slow on your 6300... the 603 was a fairly crappy processor. But it should work.
I got it for free; he was kind enough to not even charge shipping for it. So if you want a copy, send me a private message.
However, I really don't want to get hundreds of replies from people wanting me to send them free CDs of Rhapsody all over the country/world... shipping one CD isn't a big deal, but burning a bunch and shipping a bunch requires a big investment of time and money into something that really doesn't give me any direct benefit (other than good karma
So if you really, really want a copy, send me a private message and we can work something out either through shipping it or by sending it via AIM or something (during the week, that's when I'm at my dorm that usually has hyper-fast broadband).
No.
It has already been said - but I believe it bears repeating, that there have been a ridiculous number of changes in the Cocoa API since then.
Hell, even some of the simple apps I write now won't compile on anything less than Jaguar due to the way the API has evolved.
My brother found that out the hard way when his 3400 stopped booting up. Luckily, that's fixed now.
Finally, in an installation manual for it, it says that it doesn't have any security features so it's advised not to be using it on the web. Of course, I wonder if you can even find a browser for it...
My brother and I might even both pitch in for an 8500 or something to run it on
I was heavily involved in QuickTime Streaming at the time, and was on the seed list for QT 4+, and in turn, was put on the Rhapsody seed list. If someone wanted to buy my original Rhapsody CD, I'd probably be willing to sell it