Upcoming iPods - Sep 2007 - Educated Guess

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hello everyone

my first post to appleinsider



we are a small time seller of apple ipods frm india . from what we hear say , it seems apple is getting ready for a new range of ipods - ideally by Sept 2007



iPod Shuffle will stay the same just high capacity -2GB



iPod Nano will stay the same but slightly larger screen 2.2" or 2.5" , slightly different width but same brushed aluminum body . Slightly bigger is size to accomodate bigger battery



Biggest Suprise Nano will playback Video

(just as in iphone , it seems "nand" is now fast enought to handle video playback, further apple can leverage their video properties to all its models)



iPod Video 6G - Higher Capacity and better battery life , more nand memory so HDD use is minimal .... ( might be 3" screen but i doubt it , rather to reduce costs apple might come up with a very bright 2.5" screen with LED backlight on all the iPods NANO or VIDEO)



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APPLE IPOD RANGE FOR 2008 - guessing



iPod Shuffle 2GB -pricing almost similar to 1GB - US$79



iPod nano 2GB - discontinued



iPod nano 4GB - US$ 149



iPod nano 8GB - US$ 199



iPod nano 16GB - US$ 249



iPod Video 40GB - US $ 249



iPod Video 120GB - US $ 349



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It might well be that iPod discontinues the "NANO" RANGE ... calling all their range from 4GB to 120GB as the 6G ipod . entry level using NAND and Higher Capacity STILL using HDD



What Say



Kartik Mehta
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  • Reply 1 of 82
    l33r0yl33r0y Posts: 94member
    Hello and welcome



    All sounds feasible to me.



    However, wouldn't the video displays be OLED instead (i.e. no backlight?)
  • Reply 2 of 82
    irelandireland Posts: 17,794member
    iPod 6G is touch screen or we start breaking legs - agreed?
  • Reply 3 of 82
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    Geez, I think all these iPod speculation threads need to be merged.
  • Reply 4 of 82
    aiolosaiolos Posts: 228member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    iPod 6G is touch screen or we start breaking legs - agreed?



    agreed!
  • Reply 5 of 82
    rolorolo Posts: 686member
    Let the new nano have the 2.5" display from the old 5G iPod or use OLED. Keep the aluminum look and let it be as thin as a nano. How about a shuffle that isn't a shuffle because it has a small screen?



    Use a 3.5" touchscreen on the 6G iPod "or we start breaking legs." 50/100GB; $299/$399.



    Sept/Oct timeframe.
  • Reply 6 of 82
    thebgthebg Posts: 15member
    Hi everyone, I'm new as well. Long time reader and hoping to be a Macbook/ipod owner. Anyways, the predictions sound pretty solid, I just think that the 6G will be touchscreen and I'm defiantly hoping for touchscreen and some video playback on the Nano since that's what I'm planning on getting.
  • Reply 7 of 82
    jonnyboyjonnyboy Posts: 525member
    i'm still wondering whether to replace my broken 5g hard drive or wait for new models....
  • Reply 8 of 82
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rolo View Post


    Let the new nano have the 2.5" display from the old 5G iPod or use OLED. Keep the aluminum look and let it be as thin as a nano. How about a shuffle that isn't a shuffle because it has a small screen?



    Use a 3.5" touchscreen on the 6G iPod "or we start breaking legs." 50/100GB; $299/$399.



    Sept/Oct timeframe.



    After a lot of thinking , I doubt they will come with a 3.5" touch screen , it will harm the iphone business more .... also of late i have seen apple being more conservative with their upgrade models... i mean from ipod mini to ipod nano 2gb gen they have not done anything radical in terms of design or usability .



    Once they have made a great design - touch wheel , they might not change it . Also in business terms , what will happen to so many ipods in the stock with apple resellers and retailers



    Kartik
  • Reply 9 of 82
    crentistcrentist Posts: 204member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jonnyboy View Post


    i'm still wondering whether to replace my broken 5g hard drive or wait for new models....



    Wait. Only a matter of a few weeks or a couple of months until an update, most people think.
  • Reply 10 of 82
    mr. hmr. h Posts: 4,841member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by karteekmehta View Post


    apple might come up with a very bright 2.5" screen with LED backlight on all the iPods NANO or VIDEO



    All iPods with screens already use L.E.D. backlighting. (verified in Steve's "a greener apple" open letter published a couple of months ago)
  • Reply 11 of 82
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rolo View Post


    Let the new nano have the 2.5" display from the old 5G iPod or use OLED. Keep the aluminum look and let it be as thin as a nano. How about a shuffle that isn't a shuffle because it has a small screen?



    Use a 3.5" touchscreen on the 6G iPod "or we start breaking legs." 50/100GB; $299/$399.



    Sept/Oct timeframe.



    A 2.5 screen would kill the Nano. The whole point of the Nano is for it to be narrow, compact and small to be carried in the pocket. Giving it a big 2.5 screen would destroy it's purpose.
  • Reply 12 of 82
    buddhabuddha Posts: 386member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by karteekmehta View Post


    After a lot of thinking , I doubt they will come with a 3.5" touch screen , it will harm the iphone business more .... also of late i have seen apple being more conservative with their upgrade models... i mean from ipod mini to ipod nano 2gb gen they have not done anything radical in terms of design or usability .



    Once they have made a great design - touch wheel , they might not change it . Also in business terms , what will happen to so many ipods in the stock with apple resellers and retailers



    Kartik



    Considering the iPhone and the iPod are both made be apple (who would have thunk) I don't think that Apple will hold back on screen size on an iPod just so iPhone sales thrive. The iPhone isn't making money just because of a 3.5" screen so what you're saying isn't very accurate. Also, I believe there are not radical upgrades because the iPod is such a hit, the upgrades are subtle and accommodate consumer needs but are not risky to ruin the product. I think the new iPod will be touch screen with the same scroll wheel idea (somehow) and possibly have a refined iPod interface instead of switching to the iPhones version of OS X. Nevertheless it is pretty assured that this update will be a big one - not just a HD size increase.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by homeboy87 View Post


    A 2.5 screen would kill the Nano. The whole point of the Nano is for it to be narrow, compact and small to be carried in the pocket. Giving it a big 2.5 screen would destroy it's purpose.



    agreed.
  • Reply 13 of 82
    bnsmmrbnsmmr Posts: 7member
    My guess (wishful thinking...) for how the iPod line will look this holiday season, based upon a mish-mash of the rumors I have seen float by.





    iPod Shuffle



    Fundamentally unchanged. Maybe a slight increase in storage or reduction in price.





    iPod Nano



    Similar form-factor to today's nano, possibly slightly lower price or more capacity, but the signature changes are:

    1) Flashy new user-interface (that is shared with the regular iPod).

    2) Ability to utilize all of the media that was previously restricted to the iPod video (videos, games, etc.). Touted as all the power and features of the iPod video, now available at nano prices. Although the viewing experience on a device this small might leave something to be desired, it would do in a pinch, and would significantly expand the potential market for iTunes video-related content and games.





    iPod



    The 6G version of the standard iPod. Still hard drive based with click wheel. The main mission here is to spank the dickens out of the HD-based Zune and undercut whatever they might come up with for version 2.



    1) Significantly flashier new user-interface (shared with the Nano). Say what you want about the Zune, on the surface at least, its UI makes the iPod's look kind of out-dated.

    2) Same size screen as current version, but iPod reduced in overall physical size. Apple thrives on making things smaller and bragging about it.

    3) They'll accept a thin margin on this to keep prices as low as possible and difficult for others to compete with. When Apple talked about thinner margins this quarter due to product transitions, I think this was a key component.

    4) No WiFi or other significant bells and whistles borrowed from the iPhone. This is for those who want a high-capacity music player at a knock-out price. Video will still play but be de-emphasized; video is now a focus of iPod #4 below.





    iPod Touch



    iPhone without the phone. New top line of iPods. High capacity and hard drive based. Includes WiFi, camera, etc., just no Edge or phone. This is an important cog in Apple's grand scheme to quickly grow Safari marketshare. Shared platform with iPhone, including upcoming software additions, widgets, features, etc. that come to iPhone. Expensive with generous margin built-in. iPods have been introduced as high as $599, and I could see this selling in that range. I don't buy the arguments that this would need to be priced below the iPhone, nor do I believe that it would "cannibalize" the iPhone. The phone contract is a HUGE differentiator; that is a clear separator in the potential audiences for these devices. (I'll take two of these, please.)





    Ben
  • Reply 14 of 82
    mr. hmr. h Posts: 4,841member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bnsmmr View Post


    My guess (wishful thinking...) for how the iPod line will look this holiday season, based upon a mish-mash of the rumors I have seen float by.



    Hello Ben. Welcome to AI Excellent first post!



    I've always liked the idea of the Touch Screen iPod (iPhone minus the phone) being an extra tier at the top of the iPod line-up rather than a replacement for the current HDD iPod. I think the line-up you suggest would be perfect.
  • Reply 15 of 82
    buddhabuddha Posts: 386member
    I still think that the nano will remain music-only and not have video availabilities, I think that the regular iPod is for people who want more than just music playback, a lot of people just want a compact music player. For a Nano to have solid video playback it needs a larger screen causing it to lose it's value as a small device.
  • Reply 16 of 82
    jonnyboyjonnyboy Posts: 525member
    i can't see them going for 2.5" drives on the new imac. it would involve actually LOWERING the available disc space. this is never going to wax with consumers
  • Reply 17 of 82
    l33r0yl33r0y Posts: 94member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bnsmmr View Post




    iPod Shuffle



    Fundamentally unchanged. Maybe a slight increase in storage or reduction in price.




    Agreed



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bnsmmr View Post






    iPod Nano



    Similar form-factor to today's nano, possibly slightly lower price or more capacity, but the signature changes are:

    1) Flashy new user-interface (that is shared with the regular iPod).

    2) Ability to utilize all of the media that was previously restricted to the iPod video (videos, games, etc.). Touted as all the power and features of the iPod video, now available at nano prices. Although the viewing experience on a device this small might leave something to be desired, it would do in a pinch, and would significantly expand the potential market for iTunes video-related content and games.




    I can't see the Nano changing this much. More likely improved storage and battery capacity.







    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bnsmmr View Post








    iPod



    The 6G version of the standard iPod. Still hard drive based with click wheel. The main mission here is to spank the dickens out of the HD-based Zune and undercut whatever they might come up with for version 2.



    1) Significantly flashier new user-interface (shared with the Nano). Say what you want about the Zune, on the surface at least, its UI makes the iPod's look kind of out-dated.

    2) Same size screen as current version, but iPod reduced in overall physical size. Apple thrives on making things smaller and bragging about it.

    3) They'll accept a thin margin on this to keep prices as low as possible and difficult for others to compete with. When Apple talked about thinner margins this quarter due to product transitions, I think this was a key component.

    4) No WiFi or other significant bells and whistles borrowed from the iPhone. This is for those who want a high-capacity music player at a knock-out price. Video will still play but be de-emphasized; video is now a focus of iPod #4 below.




    Possibly new UI - something close to Front Row I'd imagine. Possibly smaller, better storage and battery capacity. Possibly WiFi but more likely bluetooth.



    Hopefully widescreen touch interface instead of clickwheel.



    In other words, somewhere in between your suggestions for 6G iPod and iPod touch.







    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bnsmmr View Post






    iPod Touch



    iPhone without the phone. New top line of iPods. High capacity and hard drive based. Includes WiFi, camera, etc., just no Edge or phone. This is an important cog in Apple's grand scheme to quickly grow Safari marketshare. Shared platform with iPhone, including upcoming software additions, widgets, features, etc. that come to iPhone. Expensive with generous margin built-in. iPods have been introduced as high as $599, and I could see this selling in that range. I don't buy the arguments that this would need to be priced below the iPhone, nor do I believe that it would "cannibalize" the iPhone. The phone contract is a HUGE differentiator; that is a clear separator in the potential audiences for these devices. (I'll take two of these, please.)





    Ben



  • Reply 18 of 82
    reading the above threads , i can just say its not possible for the nano to have a small display and still have video playback .



    they can make the 2.5" screen in portrait mode , so for movie playback you might need to turn the nano sideways.



    touch screen still seems highly unlikely .... cause it will become a all together new interface ... also add to the cost .



    rather i think apple will use its market position and bargaining power to squeeze NAND makers to give best possible prices , thus making all competitors MP3 Players look expensive.



    many of whom i spoke too say , they would love to see a VIDEO iPOD with much less scratches .... and maybe that might be it ... some new materials to make the ipod look slightly different , little more cool ....
  • Reply 19 of 82
    mr. hmr. h Posts: 4,841member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by karteekmehta View Post


    its not possible for the nano to have a small display and still have video playback.



    Not quite. It's possible, but it is somewhat (IMHO) pointless. There are competitors out there with smaller screens that also play video.
  • Reply 20 of 82
    buddhabuddha Posts: 386member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by karteekmehta View Post


    touch screen still seems highly unlikely .... cause it will become a all together new interface ... also add to the cost .



    this is VERY unrealistic, rethink what you just said. the iPod has gone through several major changes, both physical and through it's interface, cost isn't an issue as long as it's reasonable. if the iPod will go to widescreen video playback (should) wouldn't the interface have to go through somewhat of a dramatic change already? it can still stay the same recognizable iPod UI but be touchscreen.
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