So i take it you disagree? You really believe that there are no people on these forums that are like that?
I think there are Apple enthusiasts that will tend to give Apple the benefit of the doubt, or wax rhapsodic over a particular piece of tech because they genuinely dig it.
That is quite a bit different, however, than insisting the Jobs is God or that Apple can do no wrong.
I responded to your post particularly because I've noticed a strong trend in tech commentary around the web: Apple gets dissed for some decision or another, someone posts that they disagree with the criticism, and there is immediately a storm of eye-rolling expressions of disgust at the mindless "fan boys" and how they can't stand for their cult leader Jobs to be denied in any way whatsoever, this response being depressingly predictable no matter how mild, or nuanced, or actually substantiative the response to the original criticism of Apple may be.
It's gotten to the point that the "stinking Apple fan boy cult pussies" rhetoric is actually way more prevalent than any detectable Apple cheerleading. The fan boy bashers are far more irritating than the fan boys, who typically are merely saying things like "gee, that's not my experience, the iPhone works great for me."
Not so much on this site, or course, but that's not really surprising, considering its focus. But certainly our little troll is representative of the type, and his sneering contempt for Apple's products and customers doesn't really deserve the "he has a point" endorsement. If there's the germ of an actual observation in there, it's obscured by garden variety troll hyperbole and animosity.
The "Artie McStrawman" thing isn't my invention, it comes from a blog somewhere (forgot which one) which sometimes takes to task this precise species of lazy "Apple fan boys think Apple can do no wrong and Steve Jobs is God" crap which appears, somewhat regularly, in even mainstream tech articles, as the all purpose response to any defense of Apple or its products.
Troll . . . strawman . . . hey, whatever self-delusion makes you more comfortable with your purchase, I suppose. Truth has a way of hurting when it slaps you in the face...
first, i thought you where just misinformed, lacking proper information.
Troll . . . strawman . . . hey, whatever self-delusion makes you more comfortable with your purchase, I suppose. Truth has a way of hurting when it slaps you in the face.
And now that the iPhone has been hacked, you have a CHOICE of carriers. Free at last, free at last, thank God almighty you are free at last! If you can implement the hack, of course.
Do you not understand that the minions at Apple designed this thing to restrict you for their own gain? That profiteering has been built into this thing from every angle? Or, like a spoiled brat, do you simply not care? "Children starving in Africa," and this is how you allocate your funds. I'm serious. Whatever the market will bear, I suppose. He screws you over and you actually feel GOOD about it. I am genuinely amazed.
OK, that's it for me, I'm outta here.
You are making a complete ass of yourself. Guess thats the benefit of posting on the internet.
I've worked with and around Macs and PCs since before you were born. Hey, Tom's Hardware has a nice review of Apple's paltry Apple desktop offerings of late. The verdict . . . they are outrageously overpriced, they look sleek, and they suck. Oh, did I mention that they look cool? Use your $100 on one of them, by all means.
Since you believe Tom's Hardware...here's an article they posted in their "Tom's Guide" review on the current top seller in Apple's lineup...
MacBook Pro hardware is very competitive with higher end laptops. While the Pro's graphics capability is somewhat less than you might wish for, the CPU is on the higher end in this price range. It is very hard to get everything you would like in a laptop, but in the $1700 to $2000 price range Apple's MacBook Pro is very competitive with any vendor's laptop in a part for part comparison.
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So i take it you disagree? You really believe that there are no people on these forums that are like that?
I think there are Apple enthusiasts that will tend to give Apple the benefit of the doubt, or wax rhapsodic over a particular piece of tech because they genuinely dig it.
That is quite a bit different, however, than insisting the Jobs is God or that Apple can do no wrong.
I responded to your post particularly because I've noticed a strong trend in tech commentary around the web: Apple gets dissed for some decision or another, someone posts that they disagree with the criticism, and there is immediately a storm of eye-rolling expressions of disgust at the mindless "fan boys" and how they can't stand for their cult leader Jobs to be denied in any way whatsoever, this response being depressingly predictable no matter how mild, or nuanced, or actually substantiative the response to the original criticism of Apple may be.
It's gotten to the point that the "stinking Apple fan boy cult pussies" rhetoric is actually way more prevalent than any detectable Apple cheerleading. The fan boy bashers are far more irritating than the fan boys, who typically are merely saying things like "gee, that's not my experience, the iPhone works great for me."
Not so much on this site, or course, but that's not really surprising, considering its focus. But certainly our little troll is representative of the type, and his sneering contempt for Apple's products and customers doesn't really deserve the "he has a point" endorsement. If there's the germ of an actual observation in there, it's obscured by garden variety troll hyperbole and animosity.
The "Artie McStrawman" thing isn't my invention, it comes from a blog somewhere (forgot which one) which sometimes takes to task this precise species of lazy "Apple fan boys think Apple can do no wrong and Steve Jobs is God" crap which appears, somewhat regularly, in even mainstream tech articles, as the all purpose response to any defense of Apple or its products.
Troll . . . strawman . . . hey, whatever self-delusion makes you more comfortable with your purchase, I suppose. Truth has a way of hurting when it slaps you in the face...
first, i thought you where just misinformed, lacking proper information.
you know singing along with the crowd...
then i thought you where just a troll.
but now i know: you just one funny guy
please don't stop
Same with trolls.
Troll . . . strawman . . . hey, whatever self-delusion makes you more comfortable with your purchase, I suppose. Truth has a way of hurting when it slaps you in the face.
And now that the iPhone has been hacked, you have a CHOICE of carriers. Free at last, free at last, thank God almighty you are free at last! If you can implement the hack, of course.
Do you not understand that the minions at Apple designed this thing to restrict you for their own gain? That profiteering has been built into this thing from every angle? Or, like a spoiled brat, do you simply not care? "Children starving in Africa," and this is how you allocate your funds. I'm serious. Whatever the market will bear, I suppose. He screws you over and you actually feel GOOD about it. I am genuinely amazed.
OK, that's it for me, I'm outta here.
You are making a complete ass of yourself. Guess thats the benefit of posting on the internet.
Just joined this thread (thanks to a pointer from another thead).
Im glad you got some relief on those charges.
Im sorry your thread got all trolled up (Some people need to get a life--Blinked and Murph Im lookin at you)
Joe
I've worked with and around Macs and PCs since before you were born. Hey, Tom's Hardware has a nice review of Apple's paltry Apple desktop offerings of late. The verdict . . . they are outrageously overpriced, they look sleek, and they suck. Oh, did I mention that they look cool? Use your $100 on one of them, by all means.
Since you believe Tom's Hardware...here's an article they posted in their "Tom's Guide" review on the current top seller in Apple's lineup...
http://www.geardigest.com/2007/02/07...pro/page2.html
MacBook Pro hardware is very competitive with higher end laptops. While the Pro's graphics capability is somewhat less than you might wish for, the CPU is on the higher end in this price range. It is very hard to get everything you would like in a laptop, but in the $1700 to $2000 price range Apple's MacBook Pro is very competitive with any vendor's laptop in a part for part comparison.
So... who missed the bus?
The conclusion of the article:
For now the company has at least one convert.
I think your bus left, blinkdt.
Please do not make any more replies to his trolling posts. He won't see them anyway.
Thanks, lundy!
Eh, I misspoke a little. He can read them but not reply to them.