Spaces... what a let down

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  • Reply 21 of 31
    aplnubaplnub Posts: 2,605member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hugodrax View Post


    It works fine, you can have your porn safari window on #3 and the wifesafe safari space on #2 and so on. You can run multiple windows of the app in different areas.



    I can't get it to have one more than one instance of Safari open at a time unless you open two Safari windows at the same time and drag one to another space. A bit of a pain I think. So unless I missed something, you made it sound too easy. I like having a space for each research project I am working on and that means having a separate Safari instance open for each space. Who wants to drag and drop around when you should be able to just click on Safari in your current space???



    Again, correct me if I am wrong here.



    Hopefully, spaces get's better and Apple goes back to the Tiger firewall. These two things would make me a more happy man.
  • Reply 22 of 31
    shadowshadow Posts: 373member
    As I mentioned in other thread (don't remember which) some virtual desktop implementations try to simulate different sessions of the same user. This approach would have consistency problems - one app in all spaces, same dock etc. The reason apple does not allow having different desktop picture and why they called the feature 'spaces' in the first place is to emphasize that it does not take this approach.



    BTW, you can move different windows of the same app to different spaces in different ways: move the window in 'spaces' view, or just move the window to the desired edge and hold for a second - it will slip to the adjacent space. There is a shortcut to collapse all windows in one space.
  • Reply 23 of 31
    shadowshadow Posts: 373member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by aplnub View Post


    I can't get it to have one more than one instance of Safari open at a time unless you open two Safari windows at the same time and drag one to another space. A bit of a pain I think. So unless I missed something, you made it sound too easy. I like having a space for each research project I am working on and that means having a separate Safari instance open for each space. Who wants to drag and drop around when you should be able to just click on Safari in your current space???



    Again, correct me if I am wrong here.



    Hopefully, spaces get's better and Apple goes back to the Tiger firewall. These two things would make me a more happy man.



    No! It will never work the way you want! Now you can switch to the application space by clicking the app icon in the dock. In your scenario, this will open another instance of the app. This will drive nuts the majority of the users. And you will face another big problem here: MOST of the applications (Adobe stuff to begin with) don't support multiple instances, incl. from different users logged at the same time.



    Your 'problem' is artificial IMO. If you are working on multiple projects this will take a while and arranging the windows initially is not a big deal. There are several ways to do this - see my post above.



    Edit: Ah, for the majority of the apps which do not support multiple instances a simple workaround is to copy the application. This is an easy workaround for your [made up] [non]problem as well. It should be possible to assign a different space for each copy I guess. It will be confusing to have the icons of both in the dock, though, so you should place them cleverly.
  • Reply 24 of 31
    regreg Posts: 832member
    Spaces had been nice so far but.....I don't like the way safari operates in it. If you don't want the safari page to in one window to change you need to open up a new safari page. Then when you switch back to the original space you get that extra safari window. What I would like to see would be only the safari in one space change and not any of the others. Does anyone know if it will do this?
  • Reply 25 of 31
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 18,021member
    I think spaces is great. I can't imagine what all the bitching is about. You can assign apps to spaces and then override that assignment by dragging a window, such as in Safari. What is the problem? And how else would one expect it to behave? It's not supposed to be a multiple desktop...just separate workspaces. You can still drag any window to whatever space. ( OMG...you have to DRAG a WINDOW? That's not efficient!).
  • Reply 26 of 31
    ak1808ak1808 Posts: 108member
    Can someone give me a concrete example of how they use spaces?



    I set up 4 spaces: One for communication, one for my work, one for browsing the web and one empty as a reserve.



    Then someone called me on Skype while I was working. He sent me a couple of links which made me switch spaces automatically, back and forth. Someone next to me startet talking to me at the same time and distracted me. A process on my work space required my attention as it couldn't complete.



    All the zig-zagging between the various windows and spaces drove me so nuts in that moment that I switched everything off.



    I'm back to one space and it feels much more Zen-like.



    Is it just because I'm unable to multitask?

    Is it my limited 1 GB of RAM or does it feel like leaving all these windows and apps open just slows things down to much?



    Let me know how to use it, I liked the idea of it, but I'm not sure wheres the productivity gain.
  • Reply 27 of 31
    Has anyone noticed that if you drag a window by its title bar to a corner on the screen it switches to the appropriate space?
  • Reply 28 of 31
    regreg Posts: 832member
    This is the way that I have mine set up. Others will be different, but this suit my needs. I have mine set more for projects and tasks. Safari is set up to be in all windows, it gets a lot of use. Space 1 - email ( apple mail and gmail which gets min. to the dock), ichat and safari. Space 2 is time sheets. I have to bill different jobs and this is a handy way to do it. Expose was a good way to flip to any sheet I needed but spaces has reduced the number I have to look at. The other spaces will have different job folders. Spread sheets and documentation and individual firefox windows are opened in these. I use firefox to keep a specific browser page open for that project. I will hop back to safari for general browsing and look ups. I will save items to their job folders or the desktop which makes that file available to all spaces. I still use expose a lot and find that it is the best tool finding something. Spaces just helps keep a job all in one place without having other jobs clutter that space.
  • Reply 29 of 31
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 18,021member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by reg View Post


    This is the way that I have mine set up. Others will be different, but this suit my needs. I have mine set more for projects and tasks. Safari is set up to be in all windows, it gets a lot of use. Space 1 - email ( apple mail and gmail which gets min. to the dock), ichat and safari. Space 2 is time sheets. I have to bill different jobs and this is a handy way to do it. Expose was a good way to flip to any sheet I needed but spaces has reduced the number I have to look at. The other spaces will have different job folders. Spread sheets and documentation and individual firefox windows are opened in these. I use firefox to keep a specific browser page open for that project. I will hop back to safari for general browsing and look ups. I will save items to their job folders or the desktop which makes that file available to all spaces. I still use expose a lot and find that it is the best tool finding something. Spaces just helps keep a job all in one place without having other jobs clutter that space.





    Mine:



    Space 1: E-mail and iChat

    Space 2: iapps...iCal, iTunes, iPhoto, iDVD, etc.

    Space 3: Dedicated to internet. I usually run two browsers

    Space 4: Work. Word, Excel, etc.
  • Reply 30 of 31
    1: Firefox

    2: iChat (I chat a lot)

    3. Pages, Graph Sketcher, dictionary - work stuff

    4. Safari if I need to get PDFs off the internet, iTunes as well
  • Reply 31 of 31
    sc_marktsc_markt Posts: 1,402member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post


    How does having varying backgrounds specific to each virtual desktop space make this a feature and aide in your ability to do work and thus increase your productivity?



    If you don't have the menubar spaces icon enabled, you won't know which space you are in. If you changed each background, then you would know immediately which space you are in.

    And even if there is a faster way to know which space you are in, I assumed it was going to work like it does in Solaris where you can set different backgrounds and you really feel like you are in another workspace. Spaces seems to me to be more like expose in that it just slides apps off to the side or top of the screen.



    [QUOTE=mdriftmeyer;1167561

    You do know that this is something easily added to Spaces, right?[/quote]



    Not aware of this.
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