has anyone spoken to apple tech support lately? Dude its like $ its defenally getting to their heads now, They are rude as hell now before it use to be a joy phoning tech support now its a nightmare, i mean new imac freezing up with sceen condensacion and airport extreme base station with access control letting anyone log to your network, its beginning to be to much for me know
Obviously you're not aware of the details. Painful burns... try 3rd degree burns.
Then they deserve to only live in "assisted living" facilities and not have a home or an apartment, where you can get all sorts of third degree burns, poison yourself, break bones, fall down stairs, stab yourself with scissors, cut your fingers off with knives in the kitchen, scald yourself with boiling hot water, etc., etc., and etc. The "home" should be "outlawed" in that case -- with a "class action suit" against home-builders and banks and finance companies, rental agencies, apartment management companies (etc.), for even permitting such a thing as a "home" to be built and financed. The "home" is the "most dangerous place" that a person frequents, much less "lives in". "Homes" should be banned permanently...
Dude. Hot coffee can not give you 3rd degree burns. 2nd degree, definitely, but hot coffee would not cause a charring of the skin, which is the definition of a 3rd degree burn.
Wikipedia defines it as charring, but more reliable sources list charring as only one possible appearance. You're basically saying that it's impossible to get a third degree burn, even from boiling water or steam (which can be even hotter). Call up your doctor and ask him, I'm sure he'd laugh at you if you insist that.
Class-action for creating a market where there was previously none? Talk about killing innovation.
Several years ago the Itunes Music Store did not even exist. How were people loading their iPods back then? Exactly. They were buying CDs just like people still do today. People still have that choice, and because they still have a choice there is no basis to the claims of monopolization.
Now the bundling of software and refusal to make it interoperable with other vendors' players is a matter of security for the digital rights management keys. If Apple allowed other vendors to decode fairplay, then the information would have a greater risk of getting in the wrong hands, and therefore, becoming worthless. I think where there is a security issue like that, then antitrust litigation should not even be allowed. that is strictly my opinion, however.
Altogether, I think this case is just another greedy lawyer trying to shake down another successful company who has an innovative product that fills a need and happens to make money at the same time.
Then they deserve to only live in "assisted living" facilities and not have a home or an apartment, where you can get all sorts of third degree burns, poison yourself, break bones, fall down stairs, stab yourself with scissors, cut your fingers off with knives in the kitchen, scald yourself with boiling hot water, etc., etc., and etc. The "home" should be "outlawed" in that case -- with a "class action suit" against home-builders and banks and finance companies, rental agencies, apartment management companies (etc.), for even permitting such a thing as a "home" to be built and financed. The "home" is the "most dangerous place" that a person frequents, much less "lives in". "Homes" should be banned permanently...
If you buy MP3s from Amazon.com and use their downloading utility, files will automatically go into iTunes. Therefore, Amazon.com is clearly able to access the iPod through iTunes.
has anyone spoken to apple tech support lately? Dude its like $ its defenally getting to their heads now, They are rude as hell now before it use to be a joy phoning tech support now its a nightmare, i mean new imac freezing up with sceen condensacion and airport extreme base station with access control letting anyone log to your network, its beginning to be to much for me know
Unfortunately -- if that is happening -- I'm pretty sure I know what's been going on to cause some of that. With the prior group of Macintosh users, they were a pretty self-sufficient group of users, helping each other and figuring out ways to get things done or fixed in a great Apple community. And, now, with the very large "influx" from previous Windows users (who are dumber than dirt with some things) they are amazingly aggravating and idiotic in trying to get normal things taken care of that Macintosh users of old would simply help each other with and slog through those kinds of problems. So, after a person has been on the phone, all day long and weeks on end with such "dumber than dirt" users coming over the from Windows platform, where those "tech guys" want to "keep you dumb" so you can keep paying them money for fixing the idiotic Windows system -- after a while it gets overwhelming for those tech support people dealing with "dumber than dirt".
That's probably the unfortunate truth. It's going to take a while for those dumber than dirt users (those everyday users, not those tech people who get money for fixing things that Mac Users do themselves all the time) to get up to speed and get into the "Macintosh way" of taking care of yourself, independently and with community spirit, working together with one another.
Weren't the record labels trying to state that most music on iPods is stolen based on statistics that said, on average, there are only 20 iTunes purchased song on each iPod (presumably comparing numbers of songs sold vs number of iPods sold). Of course, we all know that's BS because for most of us the music came from CDs we previously purchased.
However, by citing those same numbers that there are only 20 iTunes songs on your average iPod, it become trivial that Apple does not have a monopoly on sources of music for your iPod. In fact, they are very much in the minority.
Saying Apple is an illegal monopoly in digital downloads is like saying BP has an illegal monopoly in selling BP gasoline and BP gas stations. The point being that, just like you can get your gas someplace else, you can get your music someplace other than iTunes. (Ok, not the best analogy, but the best I could come up with on short notice!)
If you fracture a market into small enough segements, you can show a monopoly in pretty much anything!
Dude. Hot coffee can not give you 3rd degree burns. 2nd degree, definitely, but hot coffee would not cause a charring of the skin, which is the definition of a 3rd degree burn.
The whole point of the suit was that McDonald's used to, by policy, keep their coffee scaldingly hot, much hotter than any other industry, and also to use cheaper beans than anyone else. It could, therefore, scald you with 3rd degree burns within x seconds. That's why the jury, which heard the truth of the matter, to find the old lady partially responsible, but to fine the corporation one day's profit on coffee. Please don't think you've heard the facts of the matter from Rush Limbaugh.
I never had trouble understanding this. One early morning years before, I had spilled fresh coffee in my lap, but I wasn't 72 years old, and I was sitting in a booth. I jumped up very fast, and was able to actually pick up my trousers and keep them away from the skin for long enough that I only got first-degree burns. This was an old lady sitting in her car, and she couldn't get up within a few seconds.
Unfortunately -- if that is happening -- I'm pretty sure I know what's been going on to cause some of that. With the prior group of Macintosh users, they were a pretty self-sufficient group of users, helping each other and figuring out ways to get things done or fixed in a great Apple community. And, now, with the very large "influx" from previous Windows users (who are dumber than dirt with some things) they are amazingly aggravating and idiotic in trying to get normal things taken care of that Macintosh users of old would simply help each other with and slog through those kinds of problems. So, after a person has been on the phone, all day long and weeks on end with such "dumber than dirt" users coming over the from Windows platform, where those "tech guys" want to "keep you dumb" so you can keep paying them money for fixing the idiotic Windows system -- after a while it gets overwhelming for those tech support people dealing with "dumber than dirt".
That's probably the unfortunate truth. It's going to take a while for those dumber than dirt users (those everyday users, not those tech people who get money for fixing things that Mac Users do themselves all the time) to get up to speed and get into the "Macintosh way" of taking care of yourself, independently and with community spirit, working together with one another.
Exactly how dumb is dirt?
But seriously, Apple has been courting PC users in a big, big way and they will simply have to account for the extra effort to transition PC users of all levels into the glory that is Mac.
Apple Inc. in a new class-action lawsuit is charged with illegally tying iPods to its iTunes Store in order to forge a monopoly over the digital media market so it can inflate prices, exclude competition, and force consumers to continue to buy into its closed ecosystem.
This is just plain stupid, idiotic and the person doesn't deserve to live in "independent living" but in a nursing home with someone feeding him every day. That's the type of mentality that the Macintosh users *do not have* this kind of idiotic thinking. It's because all these "dumber than dirt" Windows users got into the Apple ecosystem that they've carried over their idiotic thinking into the Apple sphere of influence. It's like they can't think for themselves or do anything themselves without call tech support and whining about it. At least the Apple core of long-time users are an independent and self-sufficient lot of users and form a "community of help" with one another and pride themselves on not calling tech support except when absolutely necessary -- and then only to the extent where they can take over from there.
That's the price Apple is paying for suffering with "dumber than dirt" former Windows users. It's going to take a while to get them "up to speed" and independent on their own and out of the mentality that only "tech support" can help them and that they "cannot think for themselves"...
I mean there are so many ways for absolutely *any* kind of music from *any* source to get on the iPod, it's ridiculous to even say that there is a lock-in. The only "lock-in" that exists is in the mind of that kind of user that has "locked in stupidity" on the brain and nothing else.
This was an old lady sitting in her car, and she couldn't get up within a few seconds.
She belongs in assisted living then, for the frail and infirm, if she can't handle "life" as it is in this world. This is all too stupid for reality, only in the American legal system, which I've lived in all my life and definitely seems to be getting worse by the year...
Then they deserve to only live in "assisted living" facilities and not have a home or an apartment, where you can get all sorts of third degree burns, poison yourself, break bones, fall down stairs, stab yourself with scissors, cut your fingers off with knives in the kitchen, scald yourself with boiling hot water, etc., etc., and etc. The "home" should be "outlawed" in that case -- with a "class action suit" against home-builders and banks and finance companies, rental agencies, apartment management companies (etc.), for even permitting such a thing as a "home" to be built and financed. The "home" is the "most dangerous place" that a person frequents, much less "lives in". "Homes" should be banned permanently...
In your own home, you have the option of turning the temperature of your hot water heater down to a reasonable temperature. You're fully aware of the fact that your knife was just sharpened. Etc.
But in the McDonald's case, the victim had no warning and no reason to suspect that that the coffee McDonald's was selling at the time, as a matter of corporate policy, came out of the pot approximately 50 degrees Fahrenheit hotter than the coffee that comes out of a domestic coffee machine - temperatures that can cause 3rd degree burns in as few as 2 seconds.
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She belongs in assisted living then, for the frail and infirm,
Do you think you could unbuckle your seatbelt and get out of the car and strip off your pants in less than 2 seconds?
All those lawsuits are bs, Apple created an entire new market, they invented the model, they still keep cheap the songs and media they sell, they also changed & extended the way you experience your music in your computer taking it anywhere or home, the concept its not new, but never got as fine as they did.
Ahh! almost forgot... what about the third party UBER market for ipod accesories.
He's saying that Apple should use Microsoft's proprietary Windows Media format instead of Apple's proprietary DRM, even though Windows Media downloads aren't compatible with Apple computers? Isn't it Microsoft that he should be suing since their music downloads aren't Mac compatible?
In your own home, you have the option of turning the temperature of your hot water heater down to a reasonable temperature. You're fully aware of the fact that your knife was just sharpened. Etc.
If they applied the same type of legal thinking in the home (with banks, builders, rental agencies, etc.), the home would resemble an insane asylum room that is padded on all four walls and you are in a strait jacket, and being hand-fed daily. That would be the only way that the banks and home builders and finance agencies and rental agencies could avoid the "like kind of lawsuit" as is exemplified by this stupid coffee lawsuit...
But the price of the system is that some people put up stupid lawsuits like this. First of all, you can load up your iPod with something like Senuti. Look at MacUpdate or Versiontracker. If you have WMA on your disk when you buy your iPod, iTunes converts the files to AAC. You can put any mp3 on your iPod as well. You can buy unprotected AAC from iTunes, and Apple would love it to be the only format in the store, as Jobs has said. You can buy mp3 tracks, unprotected, from Amazon and other places, and put it on your iPod.
The only thing you can't do is put protected tracks from other stores on your iPod, because they use Windows-only DRM. Big frickin' deal. I've got a much wider choice of tracks on the iTunes store than any other store. Why are protected tracks sold at all? The whole idea of coming up with ONE common copy protection has been discredited. The way to have common platforms is to end DRM. Nice going, Amazon! I've got your tracks on my iPod. Too bad, Napster, and any other me-two Windows DRM store.
I'm actually glad this guy is sueing Apple over this. Companies should start focusing on making the customer happy, not keeping the customer tied to their corperation (and I do have to say, Apple's done a very good job of that with its dedicated FanBoi base... funny how Apple recently has been screwing over said fan base over and over.)
But, note to the wise, burn all your downloaded songs to an audio CD (use a CD-RW to save some money!) and re-encode them as a standard format, say MP3 that everyone can read. That's what I've done... but it takes a bit of time, patience, and can make it seem very backwards.
I do believe the man suing has a legitimate point, and glad he's suing to gain court attention to just how many of these computer companies force you into their ways.
Lets all switch to Linux where we can make our own standards and not pay a dime.
Do you think you could unbuckle your seatbelt and get out of the car and strip off your pants in less than 2 seconds?
Do you think you could pick up your hand, after you sawed it off with your circular saw, at home, cutting up a 2x4 and get yourself to the hospital in time to have it sewn back on again and gain the full use of your hand -- or -- should you be suing the circular saw manufacturers for making a device that can so easily saw your hand off in about one second??
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Obviously you're not aware of the details. Painful burns... try 3rd degree burns.
Then they deserve to only live in "assisted living" facilities and not have a home or an apartment, where you can get all sorts of third degree burns, poison yourself, break bones, fall down stairs, stab yourself with scissors, cut your fingers off with knives in the kitchen, scald yourself with boiling hot water, etc., etc., and etc. The "home" should be "outlawed" in that case -- with a "class action suit" against home-builders and banks and finance companies, rental agencies, apartment management companies (etc.), for even permitting such a thing as a "home" to be built and financed. The "home" is the "most dangerous place" that a person frequents, much less "lives in". "Homes" should be banned permanently...
Dude. Hot coffee can not give you 3rd degree burns. 2nd degree, definitely, but hot coffee would not cause a charring of the skin, which is the definition of a 3rd degree burn.
Wikipedia defines it as charring, but more reliable sources list charring as only one possible appearance. You're basically saying that it's impossible to get a third degree burn, even from boiling water or steam (which can be even hotter). Call up your doctor and ask him, I'm sure he'd laugh at you if you insist that.
Several years ago the Itunes Music Store did not even exist. How were people loading their iPods back then? Exactly. They were buying CDs just like people still do today. People still have that choice, and because they still have a choice there is no basis to the claims of monopolization.
Now the bundling of software and refusal to make it interoperable with other vendors' players is a matter of security for the digital rights management keys. If Apple allowed other vendors to decode fairplay, then the information would have a greater risk of getting in the wrong hands, and therefore, becoming worthless. I think where there is a security issue like that, then antitrust litigation should not even be allowed. that is strictly my opinion, however.
Altogether, I think this case is just another greedy lawyer trying to shake down another successful company who has an innovative product that fills a need and happens to make money at the same time.
Then they deserve to only live in "assisted living" facilities and not have a home or an apartment, where you can get all sorts of third degree burns, poison yourself, break bones, fall down stairs, stab yourself with scissors, cut your fingers off with knives in the kitchen, scald yourself with boiling hot water, etc., etc., and etc. The "home" should be "outlawed" in that case -- with a "class action suit" against home-builders and banks and finance companies, rental agencies, apartment management companies (etc.), for even permitting such a thing as a "home" to be built and financed. The "home" is the "most dangerous place" that a person frequents, much less "lives in". "Homes" should be banned permanently...
Case dismissed.
has anyone spoken to apple tech support lately? Dude its like $ its defenally getting to their heads now, They are rude as hell now before it use to be a joy phoning tech support now its a nightmare, i mean new imac freezing up with sceen condensacion and airport extreme base station with access control letting anyone log to your network, its beginning to be to much for me know
Unfortunately -- if that is happening -- I'm pretty sure I know what's been going on to cause some of that. With the prior group of Macintosh users, they were a pretty self-sufficient group of users, helping each other and figuring out ways to get things done or fixed in a great Apple community. And, now, with the very large "influx" from previous Windows users (who are dumber than dirt with some things) they are amazingly aggravating and idiotic in trying to get normal things taken care of that Macintosh users of old would simply help each other with and slog through those kinds of problems. So, after a person has been on the phone, all day long and weeks on end with such "dumber than dirt" users coming over the from Windows platform, where those "tech guys" want to "keep you dumb" so you can keep paying them money for fixing the idiotic Windows system -- after a while it gets overwhelming for those tech support people dealing with "dumber than dirt".
That's probably the unfortunate truth. It's going to take a while for those dumber than dirt users (those everyday users, not those tech people who get money for fixing things that Mac Users do themselves all the time) to get up to speed and get into the "Macintosh way" of taking care of yourself, independently and with community spirit, working together with one another.
However, by citing those same numbers that there are only 20 iTunes songs on your average iPod, it become trivial that Apple does not have a monopoly on sources of music for your iPod. In fact, they are very much in the minority.
Saying Apple is an illegal monopoly in digital downloads is like saying BP has an illegal monopoly in selling BP gasoline and BP gas stations. The point being that, just like you can get your gas someplace else, you can get your music someplace other than iTunes. (Ok, not the best analogy, but the best I could come up with on short notice!)
If you fracture a market into small enough segements, you can show a monopoly in pretty much anything!
Dude. Hot coffee can not give you 3rd degree burns. 2nd degree, definitely, but hot coffee would not cause a charring of the skin, which is the definition of a 3rd degree burn.
The whole point of the suit was that McDonald's used to, by policy, keep their coffee scaldingly hot, much hotter than any other industry, and also to use cheaper beans than anyone else. It could, therefore, scald you with 3rd degree burns within x seconds. That's why the jury, which heard the truth of the matter, to find the old lady partially responsible, but to fine the corporation one day's profit on coffee. Please don't think you've heard the facts of the matter from Rush Limbaugh.
I never had trouble understanding this. One early morning years before, I had spilled fresh coffee in my lap, but I wasn't 72 years old, and I was sitting in a booth. I jumped up very fast, and was able to actually pick up my trousers and keep them away from the skin for long enough that I only got first-degree burns. This was an old lady sitting in her car, and she couldn't get up within a few seconds.
Unfortunately -- if that is happening -- I'm pretty sure I know what's been going on to cause some of that. With the prior group of Macintosh users, they were a pretty self-sufficient group of users, helping each other and figuring out ways to get things done or fixed in a great Apple community. And, now, with the very large "influx" from previous Windows users (who are dumber than dirt with some things) they are amazingly aggravating and idiotic in trying to get normal things taken care of that Macintosh users of old would simply help each other with and slog through those kinds of problems. So, after a person has been on the phone, all day long and weeks on end with such "dumber than dirt" users coming over the from Windows platform, where those "tech guys" want to "keep you dumb" so you can keep paying them money for fixing the idiotic Windows system -- after a while it gets overwhelming for those tech support people dealing with "dumber than dirt".
That's probably the unfortunate truth. It's going to take a while for those dumber than dirt users (those everyday users, not those tech people who get money for fixing things that Mac Users do themselves all the time) to get up to speed and get into the "Macintosh way" of taking care of yourself, independently and with community spirit, working together with one another.
Exactly how dumb is dirt?
But seriously, Apple has been courting PC users in a big, big way and they will simply have to account for the extra effort to transition PC users of all levels into the glory that is Mac.
Apple Inc. in a new class-action lawsuit is charged with illegally tying iPods to its iTunes Store in order to forge a monopoly over the digital media market so it can inflate prices, exclude competition, and force consumers to continue to buy into its closed ecosystem.
[ View this article at AppleInsider.com ]
This is just plain stupid, idiotic and the person doesn't deserve to live in "independent living" but in a nursing home with someone feeding him every day. That's the type of mentality that the Macintosh users *do not have* this kind of idiotic thinking. It's because all these "dumber than dirt" Windows users got into the Apple ecosystem that they've carried over their idiotic thinking into the Apple sphere of influence. It's like they can't think for themselves or do anything themselves without call tech support and whining about it. At least the Apple core of long-time users are an independent and self-sufficient lot of users and form a "community of help" with one another and pride themselves on not calling tech support except when absolutely necessary -- and then only to the extent where they can take over from there.
That's the price Apple is paying for suffering with "dumber than dirt" former Windows users. It's going to take a while to get them "up to speed" and independent on their own and out of the mentality that only "tech support" can help them and that they "cannot think for themselves"...
I mean there are so many ways for absolutely *any* kind of music from *any* source to get on the iPod, it's ridiculous to even say that there is a lock-in. The only "lock-in" that exists is in the mind of that kind of user that has "locked in stupidity" on the brain and nothing else.
This was an old lady sitting in her car, and she couldn't get up within a few seconds.
She belongs in assisted living then, for the frail and infirm, if she can't handle "life" as it is in this world. This is all too stupid for reality, only in the American legal system, which I've lived in all my life and definitely seems to be getting worse by the year...
Then they deserve to only live in "assisted living" facilities and not have a home or an apartment, where you can get all sorts of third degree burns, poison yourself, break bones, fall down stairs, stab yourself with scissors, cut your fingers off with knives in the kitchen, scald yourself with boiling hot water, etc., etc., and etc. The "home" should be "outlawed" in that case -- with a "class action suit" against home-builders and banks and finance companies, rental agencies, apartment management companies (etc.), for even permitting such a thing as a "home" to be built and financed. The "home" is the "most dangerous place" that a person frequents, much less "lives in". "Homes" should be banned permanently...
In your own home, you have the option of turning the temperature of your hot water heater down to a reasonable temperature. You're fully aware of the fact that your knife was just sharpened. Etc.
But in the McDonald's case, the victim had no warning and no reason to suspect that that the coffee McDonald's was selling at the time, as a matter of corporate policy, came out of the pot approximately 50 degrees Fahrenheit hotter than the coffee that comes out of a domestic coffee machine - temperatures that can cause 3rd degree burns in as few as 2 seconds.
She belongs in assisted living then, for the frail and infirm,
Do you think you could unbuckle your seatbelt and get out of the car and strip off your pants in less than 2 seconds?
Ahh! almost forgot... what about the third party UBER market for ipod accesories.
Greedy people all over, what a shame!
Exactly how dumb is dirt?
Well, I doubt you find an ounce of intelligence in a dumptruck load... LOL!
In your own home, you have the option of turning the temperature of your hot water heater down to a reasonable temperature. You're fully aware of the fact that your knife was just sharpened. Etc.
If they applied the same type of legal thinking in the home (with banks, builders, rental agencies, etc.), the home would resemble an insane asylum room that is padded on all four walls and you are in a strait jacket, and being hand-fed daily. That would be the only way that the banks and home builders and finance agencies and rental agencies could avoid the "like kind of lawsuit" as is exemplified by this stupid coffee lawsuit...
The only thing you can't do is put protected tracks from other stores on your iPod, because they use Windows-only DRM. Big frickin' deal. I've got a much wider choice of tracks on the iTunes store than any other store. Why are protected tracks sold at all? The whole idea of coming up with ONE common copy protection has been discredited. The way to have common platforms is to end DRM. Nice going, Amazon! I've got your tracks on my iPod. Too bad, Napster, and any other me-two Windows DRM store.
But, note to the wise, burn all your downloaded songs to an audio CD (use a CD-RW to save some money!) and re-encode them as a standard format, say MP3 that everyone can read. That's what I've done... but it takes a bit of time, patience, and can make it seem very backwards.
I do believe the man suing has a legitimate point, and glad he's suing to gain court attention to just how many of these computer companies force you into their ways.
Lets all switch to Linux where we can make our own standards and not pay a dime.
Do you think you could unbuckle your seatbelt and get out of the car and strip off your pants in less than 2 seconds?
Do you think you could pick up your hand, after you sawed it off with your circular saw, at home, cutting up a 2x4 and get yourself to the hospital in time to have it sewn back on again and gain the full use of your hand -- or -- should you be suing the circular saw manufacturers for making a device that can so easily saw your hand off in about one second??