next Mac Pro: Likelihood of new enclosure design?

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
Apple's pro desktop has had the same basic enclosure design since the G5's introduction in 2003 ? approaching 5 years. They must really like it. It's gotta be great for cooling since the whole front is vented... but the appearance (to me) is getting stale. Do you think they'll change it with the next update?
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  • Reply 1 of 51
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,464member
    I think we see a smaller case. Something that will fit in in a 19" rackmount case.



    The next processors from Intel are roughly %20 more energy efficient and things improve again next year with Nehalem based product. The time is now to shrink the case. I'd love to see Apple give us the option to use four 3.5" drives or cram in Six 2.5" drives. There are times when you might want more spindles and platters.



    Put handles on the unit that lock down when not needed.
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  • Reply 2 of 51
    irelandireland Posts: 17,802member
    I think they'll change it, total guess.
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  • Reply 3 of 51
    they've surely got to reduce the size and weight! those things are HUGE
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  • Reply 4 of 51
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hmurchison View Post


    I think we see a smaller case. Something that will fit in in a 19" rackmount case.



    The next processors from Intel are roughly %20 more energy efficient and things improve again next year with Nehalem based product. The time is now to shrink the case. I'd love to see Apple give us the option to use four 3.5" drives or cram in Six 2.5" drives. There are times when you might want more spindles and platters.



    Put handles on the unit that lock down when not needed.



    It makes sense.
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  • Reply 5 of 51
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    Originally Posted by jonnyboy View Post


    they've surely got to reduce the size and weight! those things are HUGE



    That's because they are workstations. Apple has already shrunken the case to the size of a large desktop ATX case and that's a feat all to itself. The current Apple consumer clientele could really care less if the computer actually does the job as long as its thin and cool looking. If apple tries that with the Pros, they could find themselves out of a whole bunch of money.
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  • Reply 6 of 51
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    Originally Posted by BenRoethig View Post


    That's because they are workstations. Apple has already shrunken the case to the size of a large desktop ATX case and that's a feat all to itself. The current Apple consumer clientele could really care less if the computer actually does the job as long as its thin and cool looking. If apple tries that with the Pros, they could find themselves out of a whole bunch of money.



    Apple is now in the Intel world, where the answers are not as cut and dried. There are a number of flavors of workstations. I think there will be new enclosures and new variations on machines. The MacPro was a quick and dirty upgrade to make the Intel transition. Now the hard work comes.



    For the biggest baddest dog, why not the 7300 chipset with 4 processors if you are arguing for the ultimate machine.



    Next is the 5400 chipset with FB-Dimms and two quad core processors. A pretty big heat foot print because of the FB-Dimms but even the current case may be overkill with the lower power processors (no water cooling?)



    Next is the 5100 chipset with the same processors and DDR, reducing the power requirement in both processor and memory and the current case is definitely overdesigned for this scenario.



    Finally Intel has a 975 motherboard (or X38) with a Quad Core extreme and DDR memory. This may not fit your definition as it isn't the size of the current MacPro and this sounds a little too much like an xMac. However, for most people this is still a Workstation as it is well beyond what the average desktop user needs.



    Five years for a case is pretty long in the tooth. I have an original and only recently when I was moving it did I realize again just how big it is. I appreciate the thermal design and the quiet case but it is time for a change.
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  • Reply 7 of 51
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Silverdog View Post


    Apple is now in the Intel world, where the answers are not as cut and dried. There are a number of flavors of workstations. I think there will be new enclosures and new variations on machines. The MacPro was a quick and dirty upgrade to make the Intel transition. Now the hard work comes.



    For the biggest baddest dog, why not the 7300 chipset with 4 processors if you are arguing for the ultimate machine.



    Next is the 5400 chipset with FB-Dimms and two quad core processors. A pretty big heat foot print because of the FB-Dimms but even the current case may be overkill with the lower power processors (no water cooling?)



    Next is the 5100 chipset with the same processors and DDR, reducing the power requirement in both processor and memory and the current case is definitely overdesigned for this scenario.



    Finally Intel has a 975 motherboard (or X38) with a Quad Core extreme and DDR memory. This may not fit your definition as it isn't the size of the current MacPro and this sounds a little too much like an xMac. However, for most people this is still a Workstation as it is well beyond what the average desktop user needs.



    Five years for a case is pretty long in the tooth. I have an original and only recently when I was moving it did I realize again just how big it is. I appreciate the thermal design and the quiet case but it is time for a change.



    5100 needs DDR2 ECC Register SDRAM



    Desktop boards with 1 cpu use DDR2 and amd 4x4 dual cpu board also uses DDR2
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  • Reply 8 of 51
    It won't surprise me if the don't, but I really hope they do!
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  • Reply 9 of 51
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    It needs to be big to cool those awesome graphics cards you get in a Mac Pro.
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  • Reply 10 of 51
    backtomacbacktomac Posts: 4,579member
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    Originally Posted by groverat View Post


    It needs to be big to cool those awesome graphics cards you get in a Mac Pro.



    Where's the sarcasm emoticon?
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  • Reply 11 of 51
    I like my cheese grater!



    I voted "no" because I wish they wouldn't change. A little continuity wouldn't be a bad thing in the technology realm.



    That said, I actually believe they will change the case design substantially... Apple / Jon would prolly think of it as a challenge!
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  • Reply 12 of 51
    gugygugy Posts: 794member
    if indeed Apple announces MacPro at MWSF, I think it's safe to say that the enclosure will be redesign as well as the ACDs for maximum impact at the keynote. I like the current ones, but I agree that 5 years is enough and change will be probably a good thing.
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  • Reply 13 of 51
    If the new Intel chip is cooler, which they claim, and if there is also this new cooling method that I've been hearing about, I think this is enough ammunition for Apple's guys to go about a design change.



    The thing is, I don't know where they'll go. The old G4 case aged quickly, but the G5 case looks so cool. Same with the Titanium powerbook. The aluminum powerbooks and MBPs don't really look better than the old Titaniums. . . I bought my first Titanium almost 7 years ago! (my mom still uses it!) The MacBooks do look great, however. I give the MacBook the award for most effective design.



    I think I paid $3200+ for the 1st gen TiBook. Shit. For that you can now get a very well-equipped MBP 17".
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  • Reply 14 of 51
    I like the design and shape, would like it a little smaller and lighter though. Perhaps make it out of Ti and charge an extra grand.









    ..ok, perhaps not!
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  • Reply 15 of 51
    same size, same design in overall but some new details... who cares for the workstation look, it is a workstation what i care about is video card compatibility...
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  • Reply 16 of 51
    vineavinea Posts: 5,585member
    I don't care how it looks but it is nice that my Mac Pro is quiet in comparison to Dells and HP workstations.
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  • Reply 17 of 51
    I voted 'Yes', because I think Apple will offer a second tower model with one processor and up to three expansion slots. Apple is not going to introduce a new model with a 5 year old design. Some possible advances the Mac Pro will see are:
    1. PCIe 2.0

    2. DDR3

    3. eSATA

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  • Reply 18 of 51
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    Originally Posted by takemura View Post


    same size, same design in overall but some new details... who cares for the workstation look, it is a workstation what i care about is video card compatibility...



    which probably wont happen because of EFI.
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  • Reply 19 of 51
    The design works, as it stands. It's still an industry style leader, it's rugged and it's very quiet.



    If they could scale down the same device it would sell.
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  • Reply 20 of 51
    irelandireland Posts: 17,802member
    And it's neck-and-neck at the first hurdle!!
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