France's Orange sells nearly 30,000 iPhones in five days
Orange, the mobile arm of France Telecom, said Wednesday that it sold nearly 30,000 of Apple's iPhone in the first five days the handset was available for sale on the French market.
The combined mobile phone and internet device has been available since the 29th of November via 680 Orange storefronts, the Orange online store, and the carrier's customer services telephone sales division.
Orange had previously said that it hoped to sell nearly 100,000 iPhones by the end of the calendar year, meaning it would have needed to move a bit more than 3,000 iPhones per day through the holidays. The initial 5-day tally eases that burden somewhat, reducing the per-day sales required to meet that milestone by 300 to approximately 2,700 per day.
Of those purchasing an iPhone in France, 80 percent chose to sign up for a dedicated "Orange for iPhone" plan at the same time, according to Orange, which also offers the handset unlocked and without service contracts. Nearly 50 percent of those purchasing the Apple phone were new to Orange or migrating from a rival carrier.
"This is a very good score, especially as one in two iPhone purchases is accompanied by a new Orange line subscription", said Louis-Pierre Wenes, Executive Director in charge of Orange's France operations. "This confirms that the iPhone will make an active contribution to the acquisition of new customers."
The rate at which French consumers are adopting iPhone appears to have far outpaced those in the UK following the handset's local launch in the region on November 9th. Though Apple's exclusive UK wireless provider, O2, has not released any sales data, reports suggested that the carrier activated just 26,500 of the touch-screen handsets during its initial two-weeks on the UK market.
Like Orange, O2 has stated that it also hopes to sell 100,000 units by the close of the year.
The combined mobile phone and internet device has been available since the 29th of November via 680 Orange storefronts, the Orange online store, and the carrier's customer services telephone sales division.
Orange had previously said that it hoped to sell nearly 100,000 iPhones by the end of the calendar year, meaning it would have needed to move a bit more than 3,000 iPhones per day through the holidays. The initial 5-day tally eases that burden somewhat, reducing the per-day sales required to meet that milestone by 300 to approximately 2,700 per day.
Of those purchasing an iPhone in France, 80 percent chose to sign up for a dedicated "Orange for iPhone" plan at the same time, according to Orange, which also offers the handset unlocked and without service contracts. Nearly 50 percent of those purchasing the Apple phone were new to Orange or migrating from a rival carrier.
"This is a very good score, especially as one in two iPhone purchases is accompanied by a new Orange line subscription", said Louis-Pierre Wenes, Executive Director in charge of Orange's France operations. "This confirms that the iPhone will make an active contribution to the acquisition of new customers."
The rate at which French consumers are adopting iPhone appears to have far outpaced those in the UK following the handset's local launch in the region on November 9th. Though Apple's exclusive UK wireless provider, O2, has not released any sales data, reports suggested that the carrier activated just 26,500 of the touch-screen handsets during its initial two-weeks on the UK market.
Like Orange, O2 has stated that it also hopes to sell 100,000 units by the close of the year.
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I thought France hates Apple. Did they put a picture of Jerry Lewis on every box?
It's microsoft they hate, not Apple. France is gonna suck up to Apple like everyone else once they get the acquired taste. Once they taste it ,,, hooked for life..
I thought France hates Apple. Did they put a picture of Jerry Lewis on every box?
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It's Apple that hates France (like when Americans say that France hates US, when you read forums on the net it is the exact contrary). Why ?
No Apple store in France, when there is an Apple Expo in Paris the official Apple stand is quite inexistent, Steve Jobs doesn't come and there is never any new product announced (exactly when a new product is presented in an another country at not even an Apple show). Add to the fact that prices of Apple products are 20% to 40% more expensive in France?
I really wonder what make you think that ?
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It's Apple that hates France (like when Americans say that France hates US, when you read forums on the net it is the exact contrary). Why ?
No Apple store in France, when there is an Apple Expo in Paris the official Apple stand is quite inexistent, Steve Jobs doesn't come and there is never any new product announced (exactly when a new product is presented in an another country at not even an Apple show). Add to the fact that prices of Apple products are 20% to 40% more expensive in France…
I really wonder what make you think that ?
What a bunch of nonsense.. Many important Apple products were presented at the Apple expo over the years. (Max Os X beta for one, the iMac G5 another) Jobs has been several times to the Expo maybe not recently, but then since 2004 he has cut down his presence significantly anyway because of his health. He was there in 2003, 2002, 2000... 2001 was cancelled due to 911. In 2005 and 2006 he didn't give a keynote but a press conference.
Apple has no Apple Store? Many countries have no Apple Sotre, does that mean Apple hates those countries too?
Apple products are more expensive in France? All tech product are more expensive in France, actually, they are more expensive anywhere in the EU compared to the US.
What a bunch of nonsense.. Many important Apple products were presented at the Apple expo over the years. Jobs has been several times to the Expo, maybe not recently, but then he has cut down his presence significantly anyway.
Apple has no Apple Store? Many countries have no Apple Sotre, does that mean Aplle hates those countries too?
Apple products are more expensive in France? All tech product are more expensive in France, actually, they are more expensive anywhere in the EU compared to the US.
No, Apple's mark-up in Europe is far higher than anyone else's (just compare the prices on Apple's US and European online stores, and then on Dell's).
Why Apple do this, I don't know, because it's crippling their business here.
Is it just a Fashion thing? In the US fashion only seems to account for about 30-50% of the buying decisions, with the remainder focused more on utility.
No, Apple's mark-up in Europe is far higher than anyone else's (just compare the prices on Apple's US and European online stores, and then on Dell's).
Why Apple do this, I don't know, because it's crippling their business here.
because they can,
It reallly surprises me that the iPhone is apparently doing better in France than the UK; I would have expected a much faster adoption rate in the UK with the improved exposure Apple has (Apple Europe HQ is in London, right?).
Is it just a Fashion thing? In the US fashion only seems to account for about 30-50% of the buying decisions, with the remainder focused more on utility.
Is Apple's European HQ not in Ireland? Or is that just manufacturing/printing?
No, Apple's mark-up in Europe is far higher than anyone else's (just compare the prices on Apple's US and European online stores, and then on Dell's)..
I did, I'm not going to compare all the different Dell's available but I took one of the cheapest available Dell, the Inspiron 1510;
US price (including US tax average at 8%) 366 euro
France price 528 euro (incl french tax)
Difference: 44% more expensive in France
Apple MacBook:
US price 808 euro (incl 8% tax)
France price 1049 euro (incl french tax)
Difference: 29% more expensive in France
Or...
Dell XPS 720
US= 1103 euro (incl 8% US tax)
France= 1499
difference= 396 euro or 35% more expensive in France (or rest of Europe)
IMac base model:
US= 882 euro (incl 8% US tax)
France= 1199 euro
difference= 317 euro or 35% more expensive in France (or rest of Europe)
Pretty sure some Apple models will be more expensive in France then Dell compared to the US, but from these 2 sample I see that Apple 's economics are not different from Dell.
It reallly surprises me that the iPhone is apparently doing better in France than the UK;
"Between 20,000 and 40,000 iPhones were sold (in the UK) over the weekend"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...cniphone13.xml
"Between 20,000 and 40,000 iPhones were sold (in the UK) over the weekend"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...cniphone13.xml
That is good news for stock holders.
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It's Apple that hates France (like when Americans say that France hates US, when you read forums on the net it is the exact contrary). Why ?
No Apple store in France, when there is an Apple Expo in Paris the official Apple stand is quite inexistent, Steve Jobs doesn't come and there is never any new product announced (exactly when a new product is presented in an another country at not even an Apple show). Add to the fact that prices of Apple products are 20% to 40% more expensive in France?
I really wonder what make you think that ?
How many countries have the iPhone?
How many countries have a MacWorld Expo?
Your post is an anti-Apple RDF.
"Between 20,000 and 40,000 iPhones were sold (in the UK) over the weekend"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...cniphone13.xml
Ten days later the estimate was they'd only activated 26,500 though.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11...e_activations/
O2 aren't giving out official numbers though, unlike Orange and T-Mobile.
Ten days later the estimate was they'd only activated 26,500 though.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11...e_activations/
O2 aren't giving out official numbers though, unlike Orange and T-Mobile.
Activations will always be lower than the actual sales.
Activations will always be lower than the actual sales.
Especially weeks before Christmas. I told you to give to after Christmas to see where the real numbers will fall. I'm also sure a lot of people in Europe will unlock the phone and use it on another carrier. So actual sales will not be reflected by O2 activations.
Especially weeks before Christmas. I told you to give to after Christmas to see where the real numbers will fall. I'm also sure a lot of people in Europe will unlock the phone and use it on another carrier. So actual sales will not be reflected by O2 activations.
I agree, but do you mean you told me "to give to after Christmas?"
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It's Apple that hates France (like when Americans say that France hates US, when you read forums on the net it is the exact contrary). Why ?
No Apple store in France, when there is an Apple Expo in Paris the official Apple stand is quite inexistent, Steve Jobs doesn't come and there is never any new product announced (exactly when a new product is presented in an another country at not even an Apple show). Add to the fact that prices of Apple products are 20% to 40% more expensive in France?
I really wonder what make you think that ?
Not Apple's fault, really (nor Dell's, or any other tech manufacturer). First off, Dell has pretty much the same "markups" (difference between U.S. and EU prices) for products sold in Europe as Apple does. Individual products may differ, but overall the % price differences are very close.
The main reason these products cost more in the EU than they do in the U.S. is that the taxes (especially VAT, or value-added tax) on such products are higher in the EU. There are also import duties and other factors to consider.
You also make the mistake of comparing U.S. store prices, which do NOT include sales taxes (can be as high as 10%), with EU store prices, which DO include taxes in the price.
Last word: and don't forget, part of the "markup" you cite in EU prices is the result of the U.S> dollar's current weakness against the Euro. When the U.S. dollar trades at a stronger price against the Euro, as it did five years ago, then much of that price "markup" disappears.
That is good news for stock holders.
How many countries have the iPhone?
How many countries have a MacWorld Expo?
Your post is an anti-Apple RDF.
Only Teh Steve is allowed to wield the magical RDF. Step away from the RDF.
Especially weeks before Christmas. I told you to give to after Christmas to see where the real numbers will fall. I'm also sure a lot of people in Europe will unlock the phone and use it on another carrier. So actual sales will not be reflected by O2 activations.
iPhones on an expensive 18 month O2 contract - it's the gift that keeps on taking.
If you're going to buy a phone for unlocking, it's cheaper to buy a US phone than one from the UK, but good luck with that theory.