I am not in the least bit surprised that this project is on hold. I think the auto manufacturers are tired of being screwed with by Apple. Honda, yes Honda discontinued their efforts at iPod compatibility several years ago and withdrew their parts from the market as a consequence of Apple not providing them with the information necessary to keep the system up to date when Apple kept changing things (which "broke" the system).
Honda now simply provides a headphone input jack which any player can use with control of the external device left to the device itself.
Even so Apple continues to list Honda on the iPod ready lists which simply is not true and has not been true for quite some time now.
Well, why wouldn't Honda be on the list? An ipod plugs in and works doesn't it? And, one doesn't need to pull open the glove box every time updates or a change needs to be made as is on a complex expensive installation my Mercedes on my 2006 model.
And where do you come down with "the auto manufacturers are tired of being screwed with by apple?" where does that come from? I know for a fact that car manufacturers stalled for two years hoping a format that would replace CD would come to light that they all could install OEM. When that didn't happen, they started looking into it. Car design teams are not exactly "next generation" in their thinking or we would have something built here besides gas hogs and tanks to drive around.
are you a busy body or just ignorant about the facts?
A voice recorder would be a great addition to the iPhone since I can't use the one from the 3rd gen iPod I just replaced. (BTW I still get @ least 2.5 hrs of battery out this old iPod and I used the heck out of it for the last 4 yrs, including to record lectures 2 days a week per semester).
I just hope they open the software for 3rd parties to make extension mics bc I don't think the sound quality will be that great from the internal phone mic
Well, why wouldn't Honda be on the list? An ipod plugs in and works doesn't it? And, one doesn't need to pull open the glove box every time updates or a change needs to be made as is on a complex expensive installation my Mercedes on my 2006 model.
The authentication & control codes change a little bit with each generation. IIRC, 4th gen and before wasn't encrypted, 5th gen and later required an authentication chip, basically making the older systems useless on a newer iPod. That's not a situation you want to be in when iPods change just about every year but the car will be owned and operated for a decade or two. There's such a mismatch in product life cycles and design cycles.
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Car design teams are not exactly "next generation" in their thinking or we would have something built here besides gas hogs and tanks to drive around.
They are responding to different market forces. If the US market wanted fuel efficiency at the time, they would get them. The Asian and European markets do get them because gas is more expensive. The US market kept buying the large luxury vehicles at top dollar, and business economics is to chase the money were it's easiest to make. Changing design cycles is very hard to do, the work on a '08 model probably started before '03. It's really hard to predict where things will go. Consumer electronics design lead time is probably less than half that.
I have an iPhone, but I'm not overly excited about the disk mode. I have a super-tiny 2Gig USB stick I carry on my key chain which requires no cables and takes virtually no space. I would rather carry that for 2G rather than keep 1-2 gig cleared on my iPhone which I keep 90% loaded with music, videos, podcasts and photos at all times.
Well, why wouldn't Honda be on the list? An ipod plugs in and works doesn't it? And, one doesn't need to pull open the glove box every time updates or a change needs to be made as is on a complex expensive installation my Mercedes on my 2006 model.
And where do you come down with "the auto manufacturers are tired of being screwed with by apple?" where does that come from? I know for a fact that car manufacturers stalled for two years hoping a format that would replace CD would come to light that they all could install OEM. When that didn't happen, they started looking into it. Car design teams are not exactly "next generation" in their thinking or we would have something built here besides gas hogs and tanks to drive around.
are you a busy body or just ignorant about the facts?
Oh obtunded one. I see that your head resides in the warm dark places.
No it does not work as an "integrated" system. Nothing shows up on the display and the steering wheel controls (or those on the radio itself) are not functional because the additional adapter which Honda used to sell before Apple abandoned them was supposed to fully integrate for control and display.
Where do you come from when you are plainly ignorant of the facts.
Can you even pick a Honda Accord out of a lineup of mops and brooms? I doubt it by your description of them as tanks and gas hogs.
Operating a motor vehicle is obviously beyond your technical abilities as you can not accurately see and relate facts.
I am not in the least bit surprised that this project is on hold. I think the auto manufacturers are tired of being screwed with by Apple. Honda, yes Honda discontinued their efforts at iPod compatibility several years ago and withdrew their parts from the market as a consequence of Apple not providing them with the information necessary to keep the system up to date when Apple kept changing things (which "broke" the system).
Honda now simply provides a headphone input jack which any player can use with control of the external device left to the device itself.
Even so Apple continues to list Honda on the iPod ready lists which simply is not true and has not been true for quite some time now.
I made the mistake of buying the iPod connector unit for my 2006 Civic. I don't know if it was Apple's fault or Honda's, but it was a total waste of money. Now I just use the AUX jack.
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I am not in the least bit surprised that this project is on hold. I think the auto manufacturers are tired of being screwed with by Apple. Honda, yes Honda discontinued their efforts at iPod compatibility several years ago and withdrew their parts from the market as a consequence of Apple not providing them with the information necessary to keep the system up to date when Apple kept changing things (which "broke" the system).
Honda now simply provides a headphone input jack which any player can use with control of the external device left to the device itself.
Even so Apple continues to list Honda on the iPod ready lists which simply is not true and has not been true for quite some time now.
Well, why wouldn't Honda be on the list? An ipod plugs in and works doesn't it? And, one doesn't need to pull open the glove box every time updates or a change needs to be made as is on a complex expensive installation my Mercedes on my 2006 model.
And where do you come down with "the auto manufacturers are tired of being screwed with by apple?" where does that come from? I know for a fact that car manufacturers stalled for two years hoping a format that would replace CD would come to light that they all could install OEM. When that didn't happen, they started looking into it. Car design teams are not exactly "next generation" in their thinking or we would have something built here besides gas hogs and tanks to drive around.
are you a busy body or just ignorant about the facts?
I just hope they open the software for 3rd parties to make extension mics bc I don't think the sound quality will be that great from the internal phone mic
I hope this is true.... Merry Christmas to me
Well, why wouldn't Honda be on the list? An ipod plugs in and works doesn't it? And, one doesn't need to pull open the glove box every time updates or a change needs to be made as is on a complex expensive installation my Mercedes on my 2006 model.
The authentication & control codes change a little bit with each generation. IIRC, 4th gen and before wasn't encrypted, 5th gen and later required an authentication chip, basically making the older systems useless on a newer iPod. That's not a situation you want to be in when iPods change just about every year but the car will be owned and operated for a decade or two. There's such a mismatch in product life cycles and design cycles.
Car design teams are not exactly "next generation" in their thinking or we would have something built here besides gas hogs and tanks to drive around.
They are responding to different market forces. If the US market wanted fuel efficiency at the time, they would get them. The Asian and European markets do get them because gas is more expensive. The US market kept buying the large luxury vehicles at top dollar, and business economics is to chase the money were it's easiest to make. Changing design cycles is very hard to do, the work on a '08 model probably started before '03. It's really hard to predict where things will go. Consumer electronics design lead time is probably less than half that.
Just my eccentrics of course.
Jim
Instead of a gimped disk mode on this not so huge storage device, gimme an integrated ToDo.
There ya go. Or the universal spotlight search.
Jim
Well, why wouldn't Honda be on the list? An ipod plugs in and works doesn't it? And, one doesn't need to pull open the glove box every time updates or a change needs to be made as is on a complex expensive installation my Mercedes on my 2006 model.
And where do you come down with "the auto manufacturers are tired of being screwed with by apple?" where does that come from? I know for a fact that car manufacturers stalled for two years hoping a format that would replace CD would come to light that they all could install OEM. When that didn't happen, they started looking into it. Car design teams are not exactly "next generation" in their thinking or we would have something built here besides gas hogs and tanks to drive around.
are you a busy body or just ignorant about the facts?
Oh obtunded one. I see that your head resides in the warm dark places.
No it does not work as an "integrated" system. Nothing shows up on the display and the steering wheel controls (or those on the radio itself) are not functional because the additional adapter which Honda used to sell before Apple abandoned them was supposed to fully integrate for control and display.
Where do you come from when you are plainly ignorant of the facts.
Can you even pick a Honda Accord out of a lineup of mops and brooms? I doubt it by your description of them as tanks and gas hogs.
Operating a motor vehicle is obviously beyond your technical abilities as you can not accurately see and relate facts.
I am not in the least bit surprised that this project is on hold. I think the auto manufacturers are tired of being screwed with by Apple. Honda, yes Honda discontinued their efforts at iPod compatibility several years ago and withdrew their parts from the market as a consequence of Apple not providing them with the information necessary to keep the system up to date when Apple kept changing things (which "broke" the system).
Honda now simply provides a headphone input jack which any player can use with control of the external device left to the device itself.
Even so Apple continues to list Honda on the iPod ready lists which simply is not true and has not been true for quite some time now.
I made the mistake of buying the iPod connector unit for my 2006 Civic. I don't know if it was Apple's fault or Honda's, but it was a total waste of money. Now I just use the AUX jack.