"Apple will refresh its entire Mac line-up throughout 2008, but information about the potential launch of a subnotebook was scarce, with one supplier saying that the product may be pushed out, citing possible design issues," he added."
Have you ever heard about donating the handsets to charity ? They get refurbished and then sold onto to less fortunate states in the southern hemisphere, where those phone CAN and DO make a difference. As there is no phone manufacturing down there no jobs get lost either. Jobs that can get lost by overprotective states from the north if you catch my drift. Lets just call the product cotton...
You have it backwards , it's LCD that's been getting better. Plasma has always been fantastic!
Plasma has stunk most of the time it's been out. Only in the past two years has it become more acceptable. It's much better than the older models, but still has its problems. But for smaller screens I guess it's ok.
Frankly I'm surprised there's even going to be second version of the AppleTV. I thought this "hobby" was done given Apple's issues with NBC and overall lacklustre sales.
By 'hobby', Jobs means 'corporate learning experience'.
Only 'analysts' who are pulling both projected and actual sales estimates out of their butts have labeled the device a 'failure'.
Apple is positioning it to be ready to go as the market develops and learning in the process.
By 'hobby', Jobs means 'corporate learning experience'.
Only 'analysts' who are pulling both projected and actual sales estimates out of their butts have labeled the device a 'failure'.
Apple is positioning it to be ready to go as the market develops and learning in the process.
I think that Jobs called it that because he was unsure how successful Apple would be wooing video content companies, and thus, what the sales would be.
This gave him an oppertunity to downgrade expectations for it before everyone else did.
But, if everything went well, and he was able to bully, er, convince, the content companies to come on board, on his terms, it could have been a big success.
Wow- now that's thrilling! That's the least of what Apple TV needs- an LCD display.
Will all of us pioneers who got suckered into buying the 1st generation be able to get a trade-in for our lemons or a rebate like the iPhoneers? \
In what way were you suckered? Which feature did Apple advertise and not deliver on? Sounds like you suckered yourself into Apple's advertising if you really didn't want it. I'm sure Apple didn't send goons to your house to force you to buy an AppleTV.
I was really expecting a successor to AppleTV in January. My gut said that AppleTV and her neglected cousin Mac Mini would be sort of merged and revamped. I guess I'll hold out til then!
As I wrote yesterday, access to content is too unstable right now for Apple make a big announcement at Macworld regarding Apple TV.
Plasma has stunk most of the time it's been out. Only in the past two years has it become more acceptable. It's much better than the older models, but still has its problems. But for smaller screens I guess it's ok.
Yep although I guess you can still argue that that isn't the true un-subsidised cost. Orange France could just be profiteering.
I do fail to see why it's as expensive as it is when an iPod Touch is £199 here and there's no way on earth adding the features of a very average 2G camera phone adds £70 never mind the £250 extra Orange want for a totally unlocked phone.
As I wrote yesterday, access to content is too unstable right now for Apple make a big announcement at Macworld regarding Apple TV.
Unstable- that's an understatment!
OK- then give a recall and a refund to everyone who bought basically an unfinished product. If Apple couldn't deliver on the content then why sell it? The only additional content we got was "smear quality" YouTube videos that are streaming off the internet and can't even be saved on the damn thing! And Apple's iTunes is not providing it either. Either give us the content or open the box to record, surf the internet,etc. And I'm not talking about NBC. I'm talking about all the other major film studios that are not on iTunes. And nothing is even near HD- nothing! And don't tell me trailers!
Yep although I guess you can still argue that that isn't the true un-subsidised cost. Orange France could just be profiteering.
I do fail to see why it's as expensive as it is when an iPod Touch is £199 here and there's no way on earth adding the features of a very average 2G camera phone adds £70 never mind the £250 extra Orange want for a totally unlocked phone.
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That might only be true in France as they're currently the only country selling un-subsidised iPhones without contracts.
But look at the price.
"Apple will refresh its entire Mac line-up throughout 2008, but information about the potential launch of a subnotebook was scarce, with one supplier saying that the product may be pushed out, citing possible design issues," he added."
Oh, really?
There never was a "subnotebook"!
You know what was meant.
Have you ever heard about donating the handsets to charity ? They get refurbished and then sold onto to less fortunate states in the southern hemisphere, where those phone CAN and DO make a difference. As there is no phone manufacturing down there no jobs get lost either. Jobs that can get lost by overprotective states from the north if you catch my drift. Lets just call the product cotton...
What do you do with your old phones ?
We have the same thing here.
Jeeze Ireland, that's a good idea isn't it? Yes it is.
Actually, like you have being saying before though, plasma is a better choice right now.
Yeah, I agree with me
Can't stand plasma, even though it's been getting better.
Can't stand plasma, even though it's been getting better.
You have it backwards , it's LCD that's been getting better. Plasma has always been fantastic!
Yay, a screen on the Apple TV would make it a far more usable device for music, 'cos I don't want my TV on when I'm listening to music.
Actually, that's a very good point. I do hate the idea of having my energy sucking plasma on just to display the menu and 'now playing' info.
You have it backwards , it's LCD that's been getting better. Plasma has always been fantastic!
Plasma has stunk most of the time it's been out. Only in the past two years has it become more acceptable. It's much better than the older models, but still has its problems. But for smaller screens I guess it's ok.
Frankly I'm surprised there's even going to be second version of the AppleTV. I thought this "hobby" was done given Apple's issues with NBC and overall lacklustre sales.
By 'hobby', Jobs means 'corporate learning experience'.
Only 'analysts' who are pulling both projected and actual sales estimates out of their butts have labeled the device a 'failure'.
Apple is positioning it to be ready to go as the market develops and learning in the process.
By 'hobby', Jobs means 'corporate learning experience'.
Only 'analysts' who are pulling both projected and actual sales estimates out of their butts have labeled the device a 'failure'.
Apple is positioning it to be ready to go as the market develops and learning in the process.
I think that Jobs called it that because he was unsure how successful Apple would be wooing video content companies, and thus, what the sales would be.
This gave him an oppertunity to downgrade expectations for it before everyone else did.
But, if everything went well, and he was able to bully, er, convince, the content companies to come on board, on his terms, it could have been a big success.
Wow- now that's thrilling! That's the least of what Apple TV needs- an LCD display.
Will all of us pioneers who got suckered into buying the 1st generation be able to get a trade-in for our lemons or a rebate like the iPhoneers?
In what way were you suckered? Which feature did Apple advertise and not deliver on? Sounds like you suckered yourself into Apple's advertising if you really didn't want it. I'm sure Apple didn't send goons to your house to force you to buy an AppleTV.
You have it backwards , it's LCD that's been getting better. Plasma has always been fantastic!
and power sucking too. I'll never buy a plasma - too wasteful.
Jeeze Ireland, that's a good idea isn't it? Yes it is.
Actually, like you have being saying before though, plasma is a better choice right now.
Yeah, I agree with me
Haha
I was really expecting a successor to AppleTV in January. My gut said that AppleTV and her neglected cousin Mac Mini would be sort of merged and revamped. I guess I'll hold out til then!
As I wrote yesterday, access to content is too unstable right now for Apple make a big announcement at Macworld regarding Apple TV.
C'mon Mr. Sachs, Apple will be above $205 in less than 30 days.
errrr.....Samuel Sachs died in 1935.
Plasma has stunk most of the time it's been out. Only in the past two years has it become more acceptable. It's much better than the older models, but still has its problems. But for smaller screens I guess it's ok.
Speak only if you know.
Plasmas don't go below 42 inches.
What are you talking about?????
But look at the price.
Yep although I guess you can still argue that that isn't the true un-subsidised cost. Orange France could just be profiteering.
I do fail to see why it's as expensive as it is when an iPod Touch is £199 here and there's no way on earth adding the features of a very average 2G camera phone adds £70 never mind the £250 extra Orange want for a totally unlocked phone.
As I wrote yesterday, access to content is too unstable right now for Apple make a big announcement at Macworld regarding Apple TV.
Unstable- that's an understatment!
OK- then give a recall and a refund to everyone who bought basically an unfinished product. If Apple couldn't deliver on the content then why sell it? The only additional content we got was "smear quality" YouTube videos that are streaming off the internet and can't even be saved on the damn thing! And Apple's iTunes is not providing it either. Either give us the content or open the box to record, surf the internet,etc. And I'm not talking about NBC. I'm talking about all the other major film studios that are not on iTunes. And nothing is even near HD- nothing! And don't tell me trailers!
Yep although I guess you can still argue that that isn't the true un-subsidised cost. Orange France could just be profiteering.
I do fail to see why it's as expensive as it is when an iPod Touch is £199 here and there's no way on earth adding the features of a very average 2G camera phone adds £70 never mind the £250 extra Orange want for a totally unlocked phone.
I don't either, but, who knows?
Speak only if you know.
Plasmas don't go below 42 inches.
What are you talking about?????
I know. How many 60" and over models are out there?
Plasma and LCD's aren't the only screens available, you know.
There isn't much above 50 some odd inches that's affordable. And 50" isn't big.