Someone said in another thread that Leopard's print drivers alone take 2GB.
Is there a "custom de-install"? I know there is a custom install when upgrading, but if you buy a new system with whatever installed, do you have to re-install the OS to cut down the system (for a non-geek)?
It's about as odd as the old Mac lingo where a processor speed update was called a "speed bump", when many people think of a speed bump as a means to slow people down.
Hmm, I never really thought about that one.
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Originally Posted by JeffDM
That's odd, Apple keyboards work on Windows computers just fine.
I know, it sucks. It's the same with Safari. I couldn't use version 3 without upgrading to 10.4.9 but I was able to use it in XP no problem.
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Originally Posted by JeffDM
I thought that booting wasn't disabled, it was just that more updates were not coming and that you can't make new installs under Tiger.
No it boots just fine if I unplug the Apple keyboard and use my old cheapo PC keyboard. If I use the Apple keyboard and hold alt, the computer just turns off.
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Originally Posted by zanshin
Windows has NEVER supported "nearly any piece of hardware under the sun." The other day an upper management "Windows" guy asked me if Mac had finally started using USB. It was great fun telling him about how my Macs were using USB keyboards when Windows NT boxes had USB ports, but no support in the system for them.
From FireWire drives and camcorders to scanners, plotters, CD writers and DVD burners, video and SCSI boards, Windows has had issues with communicating properly for years when the Mac was a plug and play set-up.
While there may be more devices developed with Windows boxes in mind, the "support" part of Windows and it's creators has always been a pain in the ass, and one of the leading causes of swollen IT budgets and staffs with frustrated users.
Of course, that's just my professional observation -- your mileage may vary.
Well yeah I guess the devices that are meant to work with Windows won't always work but I have yet to see an all-in-one scanner/copier/printer that will work with a Mac. All those little voice memo recorders that only work with Windows. USB webcams where you even have to get 3rd party drivers and hope for the best. PC keyboards with media keys. Graphics cards. Mobile phone and PDA syncing. If you don't work with those things, then it's not a huge problem but even though I don't personally, people come to me all the time with these issues and I hate it so much when they ask if it would work with Windows and I have to say it would because they say it in a patronizing way.
Many if not most of the media keys on my Logitech Bluetooth keyboard do work in my HTPC Mac. I have no other experience with media keys on keyboards though. I thought there were standardized media key codes in the USB standard, but I could be wrong on that.
Hasn't this analyst heard the news yet? Leopard is a complete failure! No one can even install it. And if some putz does manage to install it doesn't work, won't boot. Just visit Apple's support forums or MacFixit. Every single Mac user on the planet who has bought Leopard has declared it an utter disaster. No one has gotten Leopard to do anything as of yet. Look around folks!
Oh wait! I forgot. Most people don't have problems but we never hear from them because, well, they're happily being productive with Leopard.
Hy, you are both wrong and right at the same time.
Since i installed Leopard about a month ago or so, i have had no serious problems at all. It works just fine. So i guess then, that every single Mac user minus one has gotten to do it anything as of yet
But seriously, your right about people not posting when they haven't got any problems.
Hy, you are both wrong and right at the same time.
Since i installed Leopard about a month ago or so, i have had no serious problems at all. It works just fine. So i guess then, that every single Mac user minus one has gotten to do it anything as of yet
But seriously, your right about people not posting when they haven't got any problems.
I thought lkrupp was being sarcastic on the first part, making a certain point there and completing the point in the second part.
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Someone said in another thread that Leopard's print drivers alone take 2GB.
Is there a "custom de-install"? I know there is a custom install when upgrading, but if you buy a new system with whatever installed, do you have to re-install the OS to cut down the system (for a non-geek)?
It's about as odd as the old Mac lingo where a processor speed update was called a "speed bump", when many people think of a speed bump as a means to slow people down.
Hmm, I never really thought about that one.
That's odd, Apple keyboards work on Windows computers just fine.
I know, it sucks. It's the same with Safari. I couldn't use version 3 without upgrading to 10.4.9 but I was able to use it in XP no problem.
I thought that booting wasn't disabled, it was just that more updates were not coming and that you can't make new installs under Tiger.
No it boots just fine if I unplug the Apple keyboard and use my old cheapo PC keyboard. If I use the Apple keyboard and hold alt, the computer just turns off.
Windows has NEVER supported "nearly any piece of hardware under the sun." The other day an upper management "Windows" guy asked me if Mac had finally started using USB. It was great fun telling him about how my Macs were using USB keyboards when Windows NT boxes had USB ports, but no support in the system for them.
From FireWire drives and camcorders to scanners, plotters, CD writers and DVD burners, video and SCSI boards, Windows has had issues with communicating properly for years when the Mac was a plug and play set-up.
While there may be more devices developed with Windows boxes in mind, the "support" part of Windows and it's creators has always been a pain in the ass, and one of the leading causes of swollen IT budgets and staffs with frustrated users.
Of course, that's just my professional observation -- your mileage may vary.
Well yeah I guess the devices that are meant to work with Windows won't always work but I have yet to see an all-in-one scanner/copier/printer that will work with a Mac. All those little voice memo recorders that only work with Windows. USB webcams where you even have to get 3rd party drivers and hope for the best. PC keyboards with media keys. Graphics cards. Mobile phone and PDA syncing. If you don't work with those things, then it's not a huge problem but even though I don't personally, people come to me all the time with these issues and I hate it so much when they ask if it would work with Windows and I have to say it would because they say it in a patronizing way.
PC keyboards with media keys.
Many if not most of the media keys on my Logitech Bluetooth keyboard do work in my HTPC Mac. I have no other experience with media keys on keyboards though. I thought there were standardized media key codes in the USB standard, but I could be wrong on that.
Hasn't this analyst heard the news yet? Leopard is a complete failure! No one can even install it. And if some putz does manage to install it doesn't work, won't boot. Just visit Apple's support forums or MacFixit. Every single Mac user on the planet who has bought Leopard has declared it an utter disaster. No one has gotten Leopard to do anything as of yet. Look around folks!
Oh wait! I forgot. Most people don't have problems but we never hear from them because, well, they're happily being productive with Leopard.
Hy, you are both wrong and right at the same time.
Since i installed Leopard about a month ago or so, i have had no serious problems at all. It works just fine. So i guess then, that every single Mac user minus one has gotten to do it anything as of yet
But seriously, your right about people not posting when they haven't got any problems.
Hy, you are both wrong and right at the same time.
Since i installed Leopard about a month ago or so, i have had no serious problems at all. It works just fine. So i guess then, that every single Mac user minus one has gotten to do it anything as of yet
But seriously, your right about people not posting when they haven't got any problems.
I thought lkrupp was being sarcastic on the first part, making a certain point there and completing the point in the second part.