After having Classic installed (and not using it) for six months I finally blew away all indications of OS9 from my Mac. Is anyone else NOT running Classic?
If I didn't use Aimster in Classic then I would. Until there's a good file sharing software for OS X (so I can steal music) I won't get rid of Classic.
<strong>If I didn't use Aimster in Classic then I would. Until there's a good file sharing software for OS X (so I can steal music) I won't get rid of Classic.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Not any time soon, CU-seeme will probably never have an OSX version and Diablo II and Photoshop aren't released yet. Plus I have a fortune in software that I don't want to buy again. I haven't really found much of interest that runs on X. iPhoto, what else is ther that would make X worth using?
Nope. OS X works fine without OS 9 (Classic) installed. You only need Classic if you want to run any OS 9 apps. But OS X works perfectly fine without it.
i will probably run os 9 (classic) for ever - until there are replacements for framemaker and some good statistical software such as statview. luckily framemaker 5.5 and statview work perfectly so only a 1 min wait for classic to start up and some colourless interface....
<strong>I was under the impression that OS X needed OS 9 to work? (WHAM! GODDAMNED COFFEE TABLE!)</strong><hr></blockquote>
OS X isn't a patch over the older stuff like, say, Windows 95 was. It's an entirely separate operating system. OS 9 is also an entirely separate operating system. What the "Classic" application does is launch OS 9 within its own confines (like Virtual PC does), so that you can run old applications with it.
Don't have any old software? Throw out your OS 9 system folder like so much deadwood, and never run the "Classic" application. Voila.
I have been considering this. Especially since it is very annoying to have classic launch when I hit a file that is associated with an OS 9 program. But, until my games work in X (Deus EX especially) I have to have Classic around. Oh well, guess I will never get rid of OS 9. sigh
<strong>iPhoto, what else is ther that would make X worth using?</strong><hr></blockquote>
watson. iPhoto and watson are the 2 apps that are going to make me switch as soon as 10.2 comes out. I am going to buy it retail so i can just install and get right to 10.2 and not have to muck with updates....
Just an example, tonight, I'm setting up iMovie on OX. It tokk me a number of hours over two days to get my movies in the right place and my third party plug-ins working. I realised when finishing up that I didn't have access to the sound effects cd's i use. I wanted to try a bacth conversion because one of the CD's is a system sound format. I needed sound app for batch conversion. Despite at least a hlf hour searching the internet I couldn't find a piece of software, free or commercial, that would do my sound files a in batches. SO, there I was , back in OS9. I'm tempetd to say, the more different things you do with your computer, the more likely you are to need OS9. And whether the guy who wrote sound app, which is free ware will ever make it run native in OS X is anybodies guess. What would be in it for him? It's freeware.
In reply to Aries 1B's patronizing signature, gun violence in Britain and Canada where there are stricter gun control laws is so much lower than it is in the US, it could have a 40% increase for years and still not catch up. Stick with the facts guy. The facts are, that with the highest concentration of guns in the world, the US leads in per capita gun related deaths and injuries. To imply that there is some other important reality out there is just the la la land of the anti-gun control fanatics.
I have classic installed but I don't use it. How would I go about removing it if I didn't want it? Can I just delete the Mac OS folder? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
<strong>I have classic installed but I don't use it. How would I go about removing it if I didn't want it? Can I just delete the Mac OS folder? </strong><hr></blockquote>
Try getting rid of all of the OS 9 files. You'll probably be better off re-initializing the drive.
I was on the verge of dumping classic but two things happened:
1) F!@#ing MS and their "LAN check" in Office for OS X (why, why, why can't I use Entourage while my wife uses Word--this is a rhetorical question so don't answer it)
2) UT GOTY (I still like to play it now and again *sigh*)
I could probably live without #2 (but I don't want to), but as for #1, I have to use my Office 2001 via Classic so it doesn't conflict when my wife is using Word and give me that lousey "Someone is already using this registration..."
You'd think for $500 bucks that MS would at least allow your license to qualify as a "home license" so when your kid/wife needs to use Word, you don't have to shut your d!@# e-mail client down!
<strong>I was on the verge of dumping classic but two things happened:
1) F!@#ing MS and their "LAN check" in Office for OS X (why, why, why can't I use Entourage while my wife uses Word--this is a rhetorical question so don't answer it)
2) UT GOTY (I still like to play it now and again *sigh*)
I could probably live without #2 (but I don't want to), but as for #1, I have to use my Office 2001 via Classic so it doesn't conflict when my wife is using Word and give me that lousey "Someone is already using this registration..."
You'd think for $500 bucks that MS would at least allow your license to qualify as a "home license" so when your kid/wife needs to use Word, you don't have to shut your d!@# e-mail client down!
I'm not really that angry </strong><hr></blockquote>
You can block the port that it uses to check the LAN. i think the port is 222. You can use a firewall program to block the port. or you can just get a diffrent serial for office.
The signature *was* a bit long. Here's the short version:
Great Britain banned firearms.
Badguys took advantage and attacked defenseless citizens.
Cause and effect.
There. That ought to do it.
Rest easy. Your American neighbor's got a gun. Put an NRA sticker on your door and you'll be safer than you are.
Now can we puh-leze stay on this fascinating topic? I want to thank all you guys for pointing me toward a pure OS X plane of existance; you've given my 3.2 Gig harddrive a new lease on life!
ehhhhhhh...just the opposite. tonight, while trying to simply switch between X and 9 so I could work in Quark, my hard drive fucked up and I lost everything. It wouldnt boot, so I tried booting from a CD, but no amount of disk tools or troubleshooting would get the drive to mount, much less boot. I'm so mad still. I'm pretty good about backing up so I didn't lose much, but I did a lot of work on my portfolio web site over the weekend, and it's all gone now. unfortunately every picture i've taken since i got my digital camera is gone, because i neglected to back up my pictures. needless to say, i'm a little sick. so for now anyway, i've vowed not to install OS X until I'll never have to boot into another OS again.
[ 01-23-2002: Message edited by: poor taylor ]</p>
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[quote]Originally posted by EmAn:
<strong>If I didn't use Aimster in Classic then I would. Until there's a good file sharing software for OS X (so I can steal music) I won't get rid of Classic.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Are you saying that you've deleted OS 9 completely from your Mac and OS X still works? (thud! fell on my ass again!)
I was under the impression that OS X needed OS 9 to work? (WHAM! GODDAMNED COFFEE TABLE!)
Aries 1B
(Someone please come over here and pick me up, hmmm?)
<strong>I was under the impression that OS X needed OS 9 to work? (WHAM! GODDAMNED COFFEE TABLE!)</strong><hr></blockquote>
OS X isn't a patch over the older stuff like, say, Windows 95 was. It's an entirely separate operating system. OS 9 is also an entirely separate operating system. What the "Classic" application does is launch OS 9 within its own confines (like Virtual PC does), so that you can run old applications with it.
Don't have any old software? Throw out your OS 9 system folder like so much deadwood, and never run the "Classic" application. Voila.
<strong>HOW did you install X without classic. I don't remember seeing an option?</strong><hr></blockquote>
You just get rid of OS 9 on the drive and install OS X.
<strong>iPhoto, what else is ther that would make X worth using?</strong><hr></blockquote>
watson. iPhoto and watson are the 2 apps that are going to make me switch as soon as 10.2 comes out. I am going to buy it retail so i can just install and get right to 10.2 and not have to muck with updates....
[ 01-21-2002: Message edited by: norfa ]</p>
<strong>I have classic installed but I don't use it. How would I go about removing it if I didn't want it? Can I just delete the Mac OS folder? </strong><hr></blockquote>
Try getting rid of all of the OS 9 files. You'll probably be better off re-initializing the drive.
1) F!@#ing MS and their "LAN check" in Office for OS X (why, why, why can't I use Entourage while my wife uses Word--this is a rhetorical question so don't answer it)
2) UT GOTY (I still like to play it now and again *sigh*)
I could probably live without #2 (but I don't want to), but as for #1, I have to use my Office 2001 via Classic so it doesn't conflict when my wife is using Word and give me that lousey "Someone is already using this registration..."
You'd think for $500 bucks that MS would at least allow your license to qualify as a "home license" so when your kid/wife needs to use Word, you don't have to shut your d!@# e-mail client down!
I'm not really that angry
<strong>I was on the verge of dumping classic but two things happened:
1) F!@#ing MS and their "LAN check" in Office for OS X (why, why, why can't I use Entourage while my wife uses Word--this is a rhetorical question so don't answer it)
2) UT GOTY (I still like to play it now and again *sigh*)
I could probably live without #2 (but I don't want to), but as for #1, I have to use my Office 2001 via Classic so it doesn't conflict when my wife is using Word and give me that lousey "Someone is already using this registration..."
You'd think for $500 bucks that MS would at least allow your license to qualify as a "home license" so when your kid/wife needs to use Word, you don't have to shut your d!@# e-mail client down!
I'm not really that angry </strong><hr></blockquote>
You can block the port that it uses to check the LAN. i think the port is 222. You can use a firewall program to block the port. or you can just get a diffrent serial for office.
The signature *was* a bit long. Here's the short version:
Great Britain banned firearms.
Badguys took advantage and attacked defenseless citizens.
Cause and effect.
There. That ought to do it.
Rest easy. Your American neighbor's got a gun. Put an NRA sticker on your door and you'll be safer than you are.
Now can we puh-leze stay on this fascinating topic? I want to thank all you guys for pointing me toward a pure OS X plane of existance; you've given my 3.2 Gig harddrive a new lease on life!
Aries 1B
[ 01-23-2002: Message edited by: poor taylor ]</p>