Briefly: 70K iPhones in Germany; HD DVD cuts; Office 2008 flaw

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  • Reply 21 of 23
    quinneyquinney Posts: 2,528member
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    Originally Posted by jayalexander View Post


    Would it be possible for Microsoft to fix at least some of the other Office bugs at the same time? Particularly the really bad compatibility with Expose. How hard can it be to make the "blue hover" appear in the right spot, along with the window title?



    JAG



    Someone on msftrumours might know.
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  • Reply 22 of 23
    hutchohutcho Posts: 132member
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    Germans travel to foreign countries a lot - a phone that cannot accept a local SIM and forces you into roaming charges is simply no good. And the iPhone is even worse: even if you have a legally unlocked version (e.g. the French one), you still need a computer with iTunes each time you want to change the SIM, because it requires a restore. Every stupid 20,- EUR plastic phone can accept any SIM in the world without such a hassle. The iPhone simply does not work for that.



    To be fair, roaming charges aren't that much now, since the EU put regulations on foreign mobile carriers who would just rip people off left right and center.



    The most you are allowed to be charged for outgoing calls is 55c per minute, and 26c per minute for incoming calls outside your home country, but inside the EU.



    It's still crap that you can't swap the sim card out though. Considering in Germany you are signing up for a 2 year contract anyway, they should at least give you the courtesy of allowing you to swap sim card when necessary. They are getting their monthly fee either way.



    I'll still buy the iPhone, but the major stumbling block for me is 3G. As soon as that comes out, I will bite the bullet and pay for it, even if it's expensive and lacking some basic features that are taken for granted with other phones.
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  • Reply 23 of 23
    dreyfus2dreyfus2 Posts: 1,072member
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    Originally Posted by Hutcho View Post


    To be fair, roaming charges aren't that much now, since the EU put regulations on foreign mobile carriers who would just rip people off left right and center.



    The most you are allowed to be charged for outgoing calls is 55c per minute, and 26c per minute for incoming calls outside your home country, but inside the EU.



    Well, that is true for roaming within the EU ONLY. I spend several months each year in the US and Southeast Asia - roaming T-Mobile from e.g. Laos costs me almost 3 EUR (4.42 USD) per minute, calling Germany using a local prepaid SIM costs me about 28 Cents (0.41 USD) per minute (even less in the evening) and the difference is even worse for data roaming (something like 25 times the local price). Hell, I even get ripped off using T-Mobile in the US with a T-Mobile Germany SIM. To add insult to injury you cannot even suspend the German T-Mobile tariff while you are away for months - so you keep paying the 50 EUR (or more) per month without any chance to even use the included minutes/SMS/data.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hutcho View Post


    It's still crap that you can't swap the sim card out though. Considering in Germany you are signing up for a 2 year contract anyway, they should at least give you the courtesy of allowing you to swap sim card when necessary. They are getting their monthly fee either way.



    I'll still buy the iPhone, but the major stumbling block for me is 3G. As soon as that comes out, I will bite the bullet and pay for it, even if it's expensive and lacking some basic features that are taken for granted with other phones.



    I bought the legally unlocked 999 EUR iPhone while it was available - as I still could deduct it from 2007's income tax, the price did not matter. EDGE speed in Germany is really quite good - I was comparing the loading times of Web pages with a friends EDGE phone, the iPhone was always faster or level - Safari's speed helps a lot here. Complex Web pages challenge the slow processors in all phones - the loading time is not that relevant and UMTS coverage is really not as good as the carriers try to make one believe. In our office downtown Frankfurt - less than 500 metres from the stock exchange there is zero UMTS reception, but EDGE works like a dream. I would care for UMTS/3G IF the iPhone could be used as a modem - but if it had that function the carriers would not agree to unlimited data being included.
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