My local Apple store still has the minis on display, though everything was moved around to make room for the MBA which is now front an center. On Sunday I saw two minis being sold, both with the EyeTV thing from Elgato (one guy even had the memory bumped to 2 GB at the store, which is what caught my attention). Obviously someone must be buying these things.
If you want to gauge demand, look to see how long they last on the refurb online store, the minis go instantly...
Really? I haven't noticed any really significant price drops. I have noticed that its a pretty old design using pretty old parts. I suspect Merom got pooped in because Yonahs started getting more expensive than the Meroms at the volumes Apple was buying at.
So where the hell does this "The profit-margins on the mini are very small" BS come from? Has Apple mentioned that the profit on the mini was less than 25%? I'm thinking no.
Those high margins are only relevant if there are sales...which I suspect aren't there. If AppleTV "take 2" is a hit, the mini is deader.
While the mini is more expensive than the iMac if you need keyboard, mouse and monitor it is still cheaper if you already own those things (assuming you want a superdrive).
The AppleTV doesn't fill that role. Nor does the MacBook at $500 more.
To many the Mac Mini is the perfect home theatre. Alot of people will choose it over an Apple TV, as at least with the Mac Mini you get computer, which can do more than an Apple TV. I think Apple's keeping it around for a couple of years yet, but just not putting it in the spotlight. Apple, after all, doesn't make it's money off the low-end Macs.
Those high margins are only relevant if there are sales...which I suspect aren't there. If AppleTV "take 2" is a hit, the mini is deader.
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Originally Posted by Leonard
To many the Mac Mini is the perfect home theatre. Alot of people will choose it over an Apple TV, as at least with the Mac Mini you get computer, which can do more than an Apple TV. I think Apple's keeping it around for a couple of years yet, but just not putting it in the spotlight. Apple, after all, doesn't make it's money off the low-end Macs.
Which is why I think it's likely we'll see some blending between the AppleTV and MacMini lines. I also want to see an new enclosure. The Air is here, and the message is that rectangular blocks are out.
Which is why I think it's likely we'll see some blending between the AppleTV and MacMini lines. I also want to see an new enclosure. The Air is here, and the message is that rectangular blocks are out.
A new enclosure is looooooong overdue. I think the Mac Mini is the oldest active design in the entire Mac lineup! Perhaps you can argue the Mac Pro is older, because that case has been around since the G5! Remember those days?!?
According to the design language used on the iPods and the Air, thin products with aluminum cases and curved edges is in. Aluminum is being used in all products now, and its great becuase not only is it recyclable, it looks great and feels cool to the touch!
Well I went to the Apple store the other day and noticed that the trackpads on the MacBook and MacBook Pro look tottlay look diferent and I tried them and they were muiltitouch!
Well I went to the Apple store the other day and noticed that the trackpads on the MacBook and MacBook Pro look tottlay look diferent and I tried them and they were muiltitouch!
Look different to other MBs and MBPs or look different to PBs and iBooks? All Intel based Mac notebooks have dual-touch trackpads. They can sense one or two points on the trackpad. This is a much simpler version of the new multi-touch trackpads found on the MBA. The MBA can sense when your palm is on the track pad and thus ignore it, while the other notebooks can't. They can also understand 3 or more points on the trackpad and thus perform complex actions, the other notebooks currently can't.
As did mine with the appropriate 3rd party driver, but I didn't feel it was necessary to express that nor do I think that a similar 3rd party driver was used to give current MB/MBPs a multi-touch trackpad in the Apple Stores.
Really? How would you use it? That computer has no video out capabilities: two usb, one firewire, one ethernet, and a security plug.
Frankly, that design was done with the Commodore 64, and as much as my fondness for my Vic-20 remains, I can't imagine anyone buying that monstrosity...
First and foremost, the person who did this MOCKUP did it as a concept, ya moron!
Second, you are making the ignorant assumption that the video out for this MOCKUP would be in the same place as it is on the Macbook or the Macbook Pro. The artist never showed us the front side of the machine, and there could very well be video out there!
First and foremost, the person who did this MOCKUP did it as a concept, ya moron!
Second, you are making the ignorant assumption that the video out for this MOCKUP would be in the same place as it is on the Macbook or the Macbook Pro. The artist never showed us the front side of the machine, and there could very well be video out there!
As did mine with the appropriate 3rd party driver, but I didn't feel it was necessary to express that nor do I think that a similar 3rd party driver was used to give current MB/MBPs a multi-touch trackpad in the Apple Stores.
NOT with a 3rd party driver. The later G4 pBooks had trackpads that could sense two-finger input straight out of the box.
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If you want to gauge demand, look to see how long they last on the refurb online store, the minis go instantly...
I knew someone would mention that. Yes the Air is niche, but it has much bigger profit margins, so it can afford to be.
The mini actually has very large margins.
The profit-margins on the mini are very small.
Really? I haven't noticed any really significant price drops. I have noticed that its a pretty old design using pretty old parts. I suspect Merom got pooped in because Yonahs started getting more expensive than the Meroms at the volumes Apple was buying at.
So where the hell does this "The profit-margins on the mini are very small" BS come from? Has Apple mentioned that the profit on the mini was less than 25%? I'm thinking no.
Those high margins are only relevant if there are sales...which I suspect aren't there. If AppleTV "take 2" is a hit, the mini is deader.
While the mini is more expensive than the iMac if you need keyboard, mouse and monitor it is still cheaper if you already own those things (assuming you want a superdrive).
The AppleTV doesn't fill that role. Nor does the MacBook at $500 more.
Those high margins are only relevant if there are sales...which I suspect aren't there. If AppleTV "take 2" is a hit, the mini is deader.
To many the Mac Mini is the perfect home theatre. Alot of people will choose it over an Apple TV, as at least with the Mac Mini you get computer, which can do more than an Apple TV. I think Apple's keeping it around for a couple of years yet, but just not putting it in the spotlight. Apple, after all, doesn't make it's money off the low-end Macs.
Which is why I think it's likely we'll see some blending between the AppleTV and MacMini lines. I also want to see an new enclosure. The Air is here, and the message is that rectangular blocks are out.
Which is why I think it's likely we'll see some blending between the AppleTV and MacMini lines. I also want to see an new enclosure. The Air is here, and the message is that rectangular blocks are out.
A new enclosure is looooooong overdue. I think the Mac Mini is the oldest active design in the entire Mac lineup! Perhaps you can argue the Mac Pro is older, because that case has been around since the G5! Remember those days?!?
According to the design language used on the iPods and the Air, thin products with aluminum cases and curved edges is in. Aluminum is being used in all products now, and its great becuase not only is it recyclable, it looks great and feels cool to the touch!
Well I went to the Apple store the other day and noticed that the trackpads on the MacBook and MacBook Pro look tottlay look diferent and I tried them and they were muiltitouch!
Look different to other MBs and MBPs or look different to PBs and iBooks? All Intel based Mac notebooks have dual-touch trackpads. They can sense one or two points on the trackpad. This is a much simpler version of the new multi-touch trackpads found on the MBA. The MBA can sense when your palm is on the track pad and thus ignore it, while the other notebooks can't. They can also understand 3 or more points on the trackpad and thus perform complex actions, the other notebooks currently can't.
Really? How would you use it? That computer has no video out capabilities: two usb, one firewire, one ethernet, and a security plug.
Actually, that fits Apple's 'less is more" philosophy. Video can now be provided over USB
... All Intel based Mac notebooks have dual-touch trackpads...
So does my G4 pBook.
So does my G4 pBook.
As did mine with the appropriate 3rd party driver, but I didn't feel it was necessary to express that nor do I think that a similar 3rd party driver was used to give current MB/MBPs a multi-touch trackpad in the Apple Stores.
Really? How would you use it? That computer has no video out capabilities: two usb, one firewire, one ethernet, and a security plug.
Frankly, that design was done with the Commodore 64, and as much as my fondness for my Vic-20 remains, I can't imagine anyone buying that monstrosity...
First and foremost, the person who did this MOCKUP did it as a concept, ya moron!
Second, you are making the ignorant assumption that the video out for this MOCKUP would be in the same place as it is on the Macbook or the Macbook Pro. The artist never showed us the front side of the machine, and there could very well be video out there!
Besides the fact that it is concept art.
IT IS A MOCKUP!
First and foremost, the person who did this MOCKUP did it as a concept, ya moron!
Second, you are making the ignorant assumption that the video out for this MOCKUP would be in the same place as it is on the Macbook or the Macbook Pro. The artist never showed us the front side of the machine, and there could very well be video out there!
Besides the fact that it is concept art.
IT IS A MOCKUP!
As did mine with the appropriate 3rd party driver, but I didn't feel it was necessary to express that nor do I think that a similar 3rd party driver was used to give current MB/MBPs a multi-touch trackpad in the Apple Stores.
NOT with a 3rd party driver. The later G4 pBooks had trackpads that could sense two-finger input straight out of the box.
NOT with a 3rd party driver. The later G4 pBooks had trackpads that could sense two-finger input straight out of the box.
Ah, I didn't know that. I had a 1GHz 12" G4 PB.