I am dying for an answer to a difficult question. I am about to move to Leopard. I have a Digital Recording rig which has kept me on Tiger for compatibility.
I have a MacOS HD and a Media HD for Audio File storage.
Does anybody know if I can have Time Machine backup my Internal MacOS HD to one external disk, and backup my Internal Media HD to a separate external disk.
Two internal HDs backed up to two external HDs? Possible?
I am dying for an answer to a difficult question. I am about to move to Leopard. I have a Digital Recording rig which has kept me on Tiger for compatibility.
I have a MacOS HD and a Media HD for Audio File storage.
Does anybody know if I can have Time Machine backup my Internal MacOS HD to one external disk, and backup my Internal Media HD to a separate external disk.
Two internal HDs backed up to two external HDs? Possible?
Time Machine isn't robust enough to handle complex setups. It's a simple consumer backup system. It only backs up your data on the system drive.
However, you have many options for backing up your files. One possibility is to concatenate the two internal two internal drives with Disk Utility and then use Time Machine to back up to an external drive. I'm certain other will other ideas.
I'm going to replace my existing AirPort Extreme Base Station w/TC. Is it best to install the utility software over my existing software, or uninstall the old software first? I'd like to keep my existing setup if possible.
"There's no way to put Time Capsule into anything like FireWire Target Mode, but if you want to connect to the drive faster than wireless networking will allow, attaching a computer directly to its Gigabit Ethernet port will provide very fast connectivity approaching the same speeds as a directly attached USB attached disk."
Has anyone done any tests on actually how fast you can transfer data over the gigabit Ethernet ports on a Mac and TC? As a photographer, One of my only complaints of a Macbook is the lack of firewire 800, it would be ace if TC could be used over a fast (600 Mbps +) connection via a cat6 cable.
Has anyone done any tests on actually how fast you can transfer data over the gigabit Ethernet ports on a Mac and TC? As a photographer, One of my only complaints of a Macbook is the lack of firewire 800, it would be ace if TC could be used over a fast (600 Mbps +) connection via a cat6 cable.
The link tests an AEBS but the results should show that 1000BASE-T has faster real world speeds than FW-800
Again, a very thorough and informative article, PMcL/DED!
My house has a MBP and an iBook, and a 802.11g AP Extreme, an AP Express, and a TC. I want to be able to wirelessly back-up both machines to TC without dropping network speed *and* still have both machines on AirTunes for music. One suggested plan was to plug the "g" Extreme into a TC LAN port and extend the Extreme with the Express. The MBP would connect to the TC network and the iBook to the Extreme network. Theoretically, the iBook would be able to back-up to TC via the Extreme and the MBP would be able to use AirTunes (although, at those times, the overall network speed would drop to "g", I think.) The MBP would also not get the benefit of the Express being closer to the computers (i.e., it wouldn't get the stronger signal from the extended network, but perhaps the better "n" range of the TC would mitigate that).
Is that crazy? Am I trying to do too much? Do I need to wait for an "n" AP Express? (And purchase of a replacement for the iBook?)
Steven F. asks: "Try and see if you can get a Xbox 360 to connect wirelessly using the Time Capsule as the wireless router. *I have not been able to do this... And it seems many others havent as well."
You might try putting the Time Capsule into the slower b/g only mode, as the Xbox 360's wireless option only supports 802.11g.
Actually that's false. According to the specs of the 360 Wireless Adapter, it supports 802.11a on the 5GHz band as well. LINK
Also, I take it there is no way to use Time Capsule as just an external HDD versus a networked drive, is there? I don't like the idea of using network traffic to stream content from my TC to my 360 versus using an external HDD with USB.
I take it there is no way to use Time Capsule as just an external HDD versus a networked drive, is there? I don't like the idea of using network traffic to stream content from my TC to my 360 versus using an external HDD with USB.
You said it. It's connected to a router so it's a NAS. To be a typical external HDD you'd have to be using USB or FireWire.
You said it. It's connected to a router so it's a NAS. To be a typical external HDD you'd have to be using USB or FireWire.
Yeah, for some reason I thought the TC might have a USB jack for people like me that want to use it as a USB HDD as well as a router. Does anyone know if the 360 will even access a networked harddrive through a LAN connection? I'm mostly considering a TC for use with my MBP and 360 so it's kind of a big deal for me that it works with the 360.
When using TC as a base station and AExpress to stream music from my mac to speakers, how much will the 802.11gExpress slow down the 802.11nTC? And will any slow down only occur when it's actually streaming or will it happen just by virtue of having the Express plugged in.
I am wondering how long we have to wait till Apple rolls out real home server capability for the AEBS and TC routers.
Most needed is single sign-on authentication (which means setting up the base station as an Open Directory Domain Controller should be supported).
In the article it is stated
Quote:
there is only one password for all the shared drives, and no provision for setting up complex folder permissions
This is just too bad. The only way that I can currently see to put my home directories on an AEBS/TC is creating a password protected disk image on the base station's disk. (This by the way is also a way to sort of partition the disk. If space is about to run out it is a rather simple matter to move the home directories to an additional external drive).
Is Apple missing this opportunity to leverage the AEBS/TC as a true home server trojan (and an unobtrusive/easy-to-use one at that), or will we see firmware updates soon to add the single sign-on capability.
As an alternative, why can't we just define a MacOSX client system as an authentication server (Open Directory Domain Controller)?
One reason why Apple isn't making big inroads in the small enterprise is that MacOSX server is too expensive if you only have 2 or 3 Mac workstations (for larger enterprises this is a non-issue because they can afford a MacOSX server). It is obvious that MacOSX client has all the capabilities on board to be either an Open Directory or Unix-style NIS server. The only thing lacking is an easy control panel to set the stuff up. Why go to a Linux NIS domain server if everything can be easily done on the Mac?
Single sign-on is what is keeping the Macs out of the small enterprise. If there were a light version of single sign-on in MacOSX client, people would find it easier to switch (with the possibility of later upgrading to OSX server). Hell, home users (yes, IT-savvy users experimenting on their home Mac LAN) would be able to get acquainted with the technology and a major information barrier would be removed on the road to MacOSX Server.
Thanks for taking the time to answer all these questions (including mine!) and being so thorough about it. I'd really love to see AppleInsider do this again when Apple releases products in the future. Kudos for all the hard work!
Where can I find more info about this hack that Steve L has done? I'm not much of a hacker, but I'd like to make this work?
Thx
It's not my hack But if you enter that command from a Terminal window and then connect a USB disk to an Airport Extreme, Time Machine will see the network drive. But this is dangerous, as most folks agree that sooner or later the backup image will become corrupt, hence you will not be able to restore files from it.
I had good success myself, but my wife - who probably wasn't as careful about closing the laptop cover in the middle of a backup - had her backup image become corrupted.
With respect to the discussion of not using a sparseimage to restrict the space a TM backup could use, how about setting the max size for the sparseimage (since the default is the size of the drive). This can be done using the command line and would keep the sparseimage from getting as big as the HD. I've done it for SuperDuper.
1) If I connect an external harddrive to my Macbook Pro for extra storage can Time Machine backup both my internal MacBook hard drive AND the external data drive to a 1 TB Time Capsule unit? Doing so would give me the additional storage I need and will ensure that both of my drives are backed up periodically.
2) I currently use my FW 800 hard drive as a time machine backup. Is there any way to migrate this data to a Time Capsule drive?
Jose B. similarly asks: "I would to know if I can set shared folders on the Time Capsule Hard Disk, with restricted permissions (some users can read, some users can r&W, etc).... Would this be possible with Time Capsule?"
Yes, in addition to setting up a single password for all users, both Time Capsule and AirPort Extreme allow you to define a list of users, and assign each read only or full read and write permissions. However, there is no more granular controls to set up drop box (write only) permissions or to define different permissions on different volumes, files, folders or drives.
Ok, how do you do this. In the airport utility i can only create users. When I do a get info on the folders on the Time Capsule Drive, I can only view the permissions as everyone being read/write. It gives me a error message if I try and add a user or group. How can I change the permissions to a folder on a Time Capsule Drive?
I used to administer a OS X Server so I am familiar with setting up users/groups/ACLs and permissions.
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I have a MacOS HD and a Media HD for Audio File storage.
Does anybody know if I can have Time Machine backup my Internal MacOS HD to one external disk, and backup my Internal Media HD to a separate external disk.
Two internal HDs backed up to two external HDs? Possible?
I am dying for an answer to a difficult question. I am about to move to Leopard. I have a Digital Recording rig which has kept me on Tiger for compatibility.
I have a MacOS HD and a Media HD for Audio File storage.
Does anybody know if I can have Time Machine backup my Internal MacOS HD to one external disk, and backup my Internal Media HD to a separate external disk.
Two internal HDs backed up to two external HDs? Possible?
Time Machine isn't robust enough to handle complex setups. It's a simple consumer backup system. It only backs up your data on the system drive.
However, you have many options for backing up your files. One possibility is to concatenate the two internal two internal drives with Disk Utility and then use Time Machine to back up to an external drive. I'm certain other will other ideas.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
One question I didn't see asked was: Can TC be used for two different Mac users? If so, how does TC separate the files for Mac #1 and Mac #2?
I want to get a TC so that both my girlfriend and I can use it with Time Machine on our Macs.
Great article!
One question I didn't see asked was: Can TC be used for two different Mac users? If so, how does TC separate the files for Mac #1 and Mac #2?
I want to get a TC so that both my girlfriend and I can use it with Time Machine on our Macs.
See post #9.
Has anyone done any tests on actually how fast you can transfer data over the gigabit Ethernet ports on a Mac and TC? As a photographer, One of my only complaints of a Macbook is the lack of firewire 800, it would be ace if TC could be used over a fast (600 Mbps +) connection via a cat6 cable.
Has anyone done any tests on actually how fast you can transfer data over the gigabit Ethernet ports on a Mac and TC? As a photographer, One of my only complaints of a Macbook is the lack of firewire 800, it would be ace if TC could be used over a fast (600 Mbps +) connection via a cat6 cable.
The link tests an AEBS but the results should show that 1000BASE-T has faster real world speeds than FW-800
My house has a MBP and an iBook, and a 802.11g AP Extreme, an AP Express, and a TC. I want to be able to wirelessly back-up both machines to TC without dropping network speed *and* still have both machines on AirTunes for music. One suggested plan was to plug the "g" Extreme into a TC LAN port and extend the Extreme with the Express. The MBP would connect to the TC network and the iBook to the Extreme network. Theoretically, the iBook would be able to back-up to TC via the Extreme and the MBP would be able to use AirTunes (although, at those times, the overall network speed would drop to "g", I think.) The MBP would also not get the benefit of the Express being closer to the computers (i.e., it wouldn't get the stronger signal from the extended network, but perhaps the better "n" range of the TC would mitigate that).
Is that crazy? Am I trying to do too much? Do I need to wait for an "n" AP Express? (And purchase of a replacement for the iBook?)
Thanks
eb
Steven F. asks: "Try and see if you can get a Xbox 360 to connect wirelessly using the Time Capsule as the wireless router. *I have not been able to do this... And it seems many others havent as well."
You might try putting the Time Capsule into the slower b/g only mode, as the Xbox 360's wireless option only supports 802.11g.
Actually that's false. According to the specs of the 360 Wireless Adapter, it supports 802.11a on the 5GHz band as well. LINK
Also, I take it there is no way to use Time Capsule as just an external HDD versus a networked drive, is there? I don't like the idea of using network traffic to stream content from my TC to my 360 versus using an external HDD with USB.
I take it there is no way to use Time Capsule as just an external HDD versus a networked drive, is there? I don't like the idea of using network traffic to stream content from my TC to my 360 versus using an external HDD with USB.
You said it. It's connected to a router so it's a NAS. To be a typical external HDD you'd have to be using USB or FireWire.
You said it. It's connected to a router so it's a NAS. To be a typical external HDD you'd have to be using USB or FireWire.
Yeah, for some reason I thought the TC might have a USB jack for people like me that want to use it as a USB HDD as well as a router. Does anyone know if the 360 will even access a networked harddrive through a LAN connection? I'm mostly considering a TC for use with my MBP and 360 so it's kind of a big deal for me that it works with the 360.
When using TC as a base station and AExpress to stream music from my mac to speakers, how much will the 802.11gExpress slow down the 802.11nTC? And will any slow down only occur when it's actually streaming or will it happen just by virtue of having the Express plugged in.
Thanks
Most needed is single sign-on authentication (which means setting up the base station as an Open Directory Domain Controller should be supported).
In the article it is stated
there is only one password for all the shared drives, and no provision for setting up complex folder permissions
This is just too bad. The only way that I can currently see to put my home directories on an AEBS/TC is creating a password protected disk image on the base station's disk. (This by the way is also a way to sort of partition the disk. If space is about to run out it is a rather simple matter to move the home directories to an additional external drive).
Is Apple missing this opportunity to leverage the AEBS/TC as a true home server trojan (and an unobtrusive/easy-to-use one at that), or will we see firmware updates soon to add the single sign-on capability.
As an alternative, why can't we just define a MacOSX client system as an authentication server (Open Directory Domain Controller)?
One reason why Apple isn't making big inroads in the small enterprise is that MacOSX server is too expensive if you only have 2 or 3 Mac workstations (for larger enterprises this is a non-issue because they can afford a MacOSX server). It is obvious that MacOSX client has all the capabilities on board to be either an Open Directory or Unix-style NIS server. The only thing lacking is an easy control panel to set the stuff up. Why go to a Linux NIS domain server if everything can be easily done on the Mac?
Single sign-on is what is keeping the Macs out of the small enterprise. If there were a light version of single sign-on in MacOSX client, people would find it easier to switch (with the possibility of later upgrading to OSX server). Hell, home users (yes, IT-savvy users experimenting on their home Mac LAN) would be able to get acquainted with the technology and a major information barrier would be removed on the road to MacOSX Server.
Please Apple, take notice.
Where can I find more info about this hack that Steve L has done? I'm not much of a hacker, but I'd like to make this work?
Thx
It's not my hack
I had good success myself, but my wife - who probably wasn't as careful about closing the laptop cover in the middle of a backup - had her backup image become corrupted.
2) I currently use my FW 800 hard drive as a time machine backup. Is there any way to migrate this data to a Time Capsule drive?
Thanks!
Jose B. similarly asks: "I would to know if I can set shared folders on the Time Capsule Hard Disk, with restricted permissions (some users can read, some users can r&W, etc).... Would this be possible with Time Capsule?"
Yes, in addition to setting up a single password for all users, both Time Capsule and AirPort Extreme allow you to define a list of users, and assign each read only or full read and write permissions. However, there is no more granular controls to set up drop box (write only) permissions or to define different permissions on different volumes, files, folders or drives.
Ok, how do you do this. In the airport utility i can only create users. When I do a get info on the folders on the Time Capsule Drive, I can only view the permissions as everyone being read/write. It gives me a error message if I try and add a user or group. How can I change the permissions to a folder on a Time Capsule Drive?
I used to administer a OS X Server so I am familiar with setting up users/groups/ACLs and permissions.
Thanks