I find it very disappointing that AI has followed the lead of other sites and headlined that the whole country is sold out (even if it is with a question mark). The partners are sold out but a 30 second check would have revealed that the phones are still in stock via Apple themselves, with the online stored quoting 24 hour dispatch.
That is an entirely different story then. Probably means we're within the ballpark of a new iPhone, and O2 thought they had ordered enough to hold them out until then. O2 miscalculated, and is now getting a few more from Apple's stock to hold over for the next bit.
I find it very disappointing that AI has followed the lead of other sites and headlined that the whole country is sold out (even if it is with a question mark). The partners are sold out but a 30 second check would have revealed that the phones are still in stock via Apple themselves, with the online stored quoting 24 hour dispatch.
You're right. Though I must say that O2's website was grossly misleading earlier in the day. They are now reflecting stock once again and the "no longer available" message has been removed.
This is hilarious. Next time someone says something like "out of stock", please do not start to jump up and down and breathe this heavily just yet. Pure over-reaction, this whole thread.
You're right. Though I must say that O2's website was grossly misleading earlier in the day. They are now reflecting stock once again and the "no longer available" message has been removed.
Is anyone aware of o2's replacement policy for lost/stolen iPhones?
Like many people I pay for insurance on top of my tarrif, and was assured I could get a replacement phone for £25 should misfortune befall me. If they can't replace it what am I now paying for? And when there is only a new iPhone available will they replace lost phones with new models?!
I'd say that anyone who wants an iPhone would go online. This is press! O2 is preparing for iPhone v2, and Apple will have said "let your stores run out, you don't want all the return claims anyway" and knew that it would tip us into knowing something big was coming.
Either that or Steve is playing with us
I find it very fishy that demand in an area that was OVERestimated is now radically under-estimated. This seems like there are other reasons involved. Besides, the wording "No Longer Available" is very different to "Not Currently Available" and implies two totally different things. First, O2 knows as well as we do that 3G is coming, and even if they did underestimate, they would just get Apple to bring more in. Shipments like that take a week, not 3 months. So the underestimates aren't a good enough explanation. O2 is holding out on reordering more shipped over to them. They know something, something that tells them it is a good move to finish off iPhone v1 from their stores.
Is anyone aware of o2's replacement policy for lost/stolen iPhones?
Like many people I pay for insurance on top of my tarrif, and was assured I could get a replacement phone for £25 should misfortune befall me. If they can't replace it what am I now paying for? And when there is only a new iPhone available will they replace lost phones with new models?!
They will get one in from Apple if they have no stock and will direct that Phone to your current address, working themselves as intermediaries I strongly suspect... That is until iPhone 3G
this is getting very confusing. What the HELL is going on???
HAHAHA! no kidding, eh? They have gone mad.
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This seems like there are other reasons involved. Besides, the wording "No Longer Available" is very different to "Not Currently Available" and implies two totally different things.
Excellent point. I would assume that anything coming out of graphic design/marketing would get reviewed by some sort of middle management before getting blasted to the website, right? How in the world could something this big get screwed up? Do you think they are somehow using this as a "negotiating tactic" with Apple for iPhone 3G terms ?
THis story is another example of where AppleInsider attempts to make it sound that they have broken this story. The credit should be given to Engadget who broke the story.
Every regular visitor here realizes AI is an aggregator of material from elsewhere -- and they never discuss how much original reportage they do (unlike MacWorld who cultivate visible personalities and pat themselves on the back frequently).
It's a fine point though. Is lack of attribution an IMPLICIT claim of authorship??
Is it possible AI got the info independently or did they just cut and paste from Engaget.
I noticed the whole Flash series was also published in Roughly Drafted -- was it co-commissioned? Borrowed with permission (but not attribution)? Lifted?
Are the owners (and/or reporters) at AI also owners and reporters of other sites? A whole host of questions suggests itself.
Maybe AI needs to comment on who and what it is and what its editorial process and policies are. They certainly gather more info than many sites. It would at least be interesting. As long as they didn't reveal any useful moles.
Some of these (supposedly) mature Telecom companies come thru as amateurish sometimes....
AT&T did it earlier today, too, with a reposting that WiFi is included with iPhone contract just to withdrawal it several hours later. And I can't tell you how many times somethign has popped up on Amazon or Apple's website just to be removed shortly after. I"m fairly certain that we'd know of a lot more companies that have have done this had we been paying more attention.
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I find it very disappointing that AI has followed the lead of other sites and headlined that the whole country is sold out (even if it is with a question mark). The partners are sold out but a 30 second check would have revealed that the phones are still in stock via Apple themselves, with the online stored quoting 24 hour dispatch.
That is an entirely different story then. Probably means we're within the ballpark of a new iPhone, and O2 thought they had ordered enough to hold them out until then. O2 miscalculated, and is now getting a few more from Apple's stock to hold over for the next bit.
I find it very disappointing that AI has followed the lead of other sites and headlined that the whole country is sold out (even if it is with a question mark). The partners are sold out but a 30 second check would have revealed that the phones are still in stock via Apple themselves, with the online stored quoting 24 hour dispatch.
You're right. Though I must say that O2's website was grossly misleading earlier in the day. They are now reflecting stock once again and the "no longer available" message has been removed.
Best,
K
They are now reflecting stock once again and the "no longer available" message has been removed.
When you click on 'Find Out More' you are taken to another page that has the 16GB in stock and stating that 8GB is sold out.
You're right. Though I must say that O2's website was grossly misleading earlier in the day. They are now reflecting stock once again and the "no longer available" message has been removed.
Best,
K
Good updates. Thanks!
Like many people I pay for insurance on top of my tarrif, and was assured I could get a replacement phone for £25 should misfortune befall me. If they can't replace it what am I now paying for? And when there is only a new iPhone available will they replace lost phones with new models?!
Just a quick point but O2's return policy is 14 days, not 30.
http://shop.o2.co.uk/FAQ?category=Re...HANGE_MY_PHONE
Apple UK's return policy is also 14 days.
http://promo.euro.apple.com/promo/he...r/returns.html
Yeah, I was wondering where that 30 days came from! There is also a 10% restocking fee.
Either that or Steve is playing with us
I find it very fishy that demand in an area that was OVERestimated is now radically under-estimated. This seems like there are other reasons involved. Besides, the wording "No Longer Available" is very different to "Not Currently Available" and implies two totally different things. First, O2 knows as well as we do that 3G is coming, and even if they did underestimate, they would just get Apple to bring more in. Shipments like that take a week, not 3 months. So the underestimates aren't a good enough explanation. O2 is holding out on reordering more shipped over to them. They know something, something that tells them it is a good move to finish off iPhone v1 from their stores.
Is anyone aware of o2's replacement policy for lost/stolen iPhones?
Like many people I pay for insurance on top of my tarrif, and was assured I could get a replacement phone for £25 should misfortune befall me. If they can't replace it what am I now paying for? And when there is only a new iPhone available will they replace lost phones with new models?!
They will get one in from Apple if they have no stock and will direct that Phone to your current address, working themselves as intermediaries I strongly suspect... That is until iPhone 3G
this is getting very confusing. What the HELL is going on???
HAHAHA! no kidding, eh? They have gone mad.
This seems like there are other reasons involved. Besides, the wording "No Longer Available" is very different to "Not Currently Available" and implies two totally different things.
Excellent point. I would assume that anything coming out of graphic design/marketing would get reviewed by some sort of middle management before getting blasted to the website, right? How in the world could something this big get screwed up? Do you think they are somehow using this as a "negotiating tactic" with Apple for iPhone 3G terms ?
THis story is another example of where AppleInsider attempts to make it sound that they have broken this story. The credit should be given to Engadget who broke the story.
Every regular visitor here realizes AI is an aggregator of material from elsewhere -- and they never discuss how much original reportage they do (unlike MacWorld who cultivate visible personalities and pat themselves on the back frequently).
It's a fine point though. Is lack of attribution an IMPLICIT claim of authorship??
Is it possible AI got the info independently or did they just cut and paste from Engaget.
I noticed the whole Flash series was also published in Roughly Drafted -- was it co-commissioned? Borrowed with permission (but not attribution)? Lifted?
Are the owners (and/or reporters) at AI also owners and reporters of other sites? A whole host of questions suggests itself.
Maybe AI needs to comment on who and what it is and what its editorial process and policies are. They certainly gather more info than many sites. It would at least be interesting. As long as they didn't reveal any useful moles.
this is getting very confusing. What the HELL is going on???
Ah, too many cooks......
Some of these (supposedly) mature Telecom companies come thru as amateurish sometimes....
Ah, too many cooks......
Some of these (supposedly) mature Telecom companies come thru as amateurish sometimes....
AT&T did it earlier today, too, with a reposting that WiFi is included with iPhone contract just to withdrawal it several hours later. And I can't tell you how many times somethign has popped up on Amazon or Apple's website just to be removed shortly after. I"m fairly certain that we'd know of a lot more companies that have have done this had we been paying more attention.