When talking about mice, "Optical" and "Laser" are NOT the same thing. Optical tracking is generally better than a scroll-ball, but Laser tracking is way more precise that Optical. The Apple mouse is merely an Optical device.
(Yes, I am aware that a Laser is, by definition, an "optical" technology, but in this particular case, optical refers to an LED source as opposed to a real laser.)
Just a quick note, the Wireless Mighty Mouse is a laser mouse
The Mighty Mouse, despite having more than one button (or ability to detect more than one button) categorically does not function as a multi-button mouse. I'm not talking about games, either; I'm talking about using it for desktop apps.
Virtually every third time I "right-clicked," the mouse would misinterpret it as a left-click.
The "squeeze-click" was so useless as to be joke-worthy. The maneuver required to accomplish a squeeze click was functionally equivalent to lifting the mouse and pressing a button on the bottom surface. Either way, your cursor ended up far away from where it started.
While I like the way the "nipple" functioned out-of-box, it only took a few days before the response was messed up due to particulate matter or finger oils.
I use a Microsoft Comfort Optical Mouse 3000 these days. It irritates me every day to see the Microsoft logo on something connected to my Mac. But the Mighty Mouse irritated me more!
I'd love a small, ambidextrous laser mouse with a scroll pad and a minimum of five buttons (left, middle, right, forward, back). Apparently no one (Apple Logitech, Microsoft) is capable of making such a device.
You know, I was debating whether or not it was mice or mouses... I was told for the input device, it's actually mouses, not mice. I never know for sure.
Seriously, I don't mean to be rude here, but is anyone else getting tired of all the complaints from gamers? All I ever hear is "this sucks for gaming" or "that sucks for gaming" as if gaming is a serious task that has any important benefits other than personal entertainment? If gaming is a high priority for you than use a console or get a PC. Obviously gaming is not something that Apple seems to care about. Maybe that will change in the future, but some of us use our computers for things that are a little more important than sitting around playing mind-numbing games. Sorry if I sound arrogant. I don't mean to, I'm just getting tired of hearing the same thing over and over again. It's pointless.
Like I said, it sucks for everything. It sucks on the desktop. You'll just notice it even better with a game, because they are less forgiving.
The Mighty Mouse, despite having more than one button (or ability to detect more than one button) categorically does not function as a multi-button mouse.
This is what we would call not-isomorphic, right?
I don't know, I have not used extensively a Mighty Mouse to tell for sure, but I think the hockey puck one was the worst ever.
The first thing I did was to disble the "squeeze" - that implentation was not something I'd expected. It made the mouse virtually unusable, for me at least.
I used the puck for years - was ok with it. In the same way I'm ok with the MM. They're ok - just.
For my editing station tho' I bought a M$ IntelliSplorer thingy (on the recommendation of another editor) years ago, maybe 5 or 6.
I'd love a small, ambidextrous laser mouse with a scroll pad and a minimum of five buttons (left, middle, right, forward, back). Apparently no one (Apple Logitech, Microsoft) is capable of making such a device.
I use the Logitech VX Revolution (after trying about 1/2 dozen other mice) and love it. It sells for $70, but TigerDirect has it on sale now for $30.
I have its big brother too. It's rechargeable while the smaller one uses an AA battery. If you have large hands, you'd probably like the MX? Revolution. The smaller one is easier to whip the cursor around the desktop.
I'd love a small, ambidextrous laser mouse with a scroll pad and a minimum of five buttons (left, middle, right, forward, back). Apparently no one (Apple Logitech, Microsoft) is capable of making such a device.
Scroll pad?
You might want to check out Razer mice like Pro|Click, Copperhead and Lachesis. These are all ambidextrous models. I find Razer's buttons and scroll wheel excellent, very responsive. Microsoft even licensed technology from Razer for their Habu and slapped their own logo on top when they couldn't keep up.
I guess you never used the hockey puck mouse that shipped with the original iMacs then. That was by far a worse ergonomic design. I honestly don't have a problem with the Mighty Mouse. It may not be the best mouse on the market but I'm not that picky when it comes to mouses and it looks nice (to me at least) so whatever.
I had a Power Macintosh G3 (Blue & White) tower (bought Jan. 1999) that came with a smaller Apple keyboard and a hockey puck mouse. I used the word "had" because my house was burglarized and the G3 Tower was taken. I still have the hockey puck mouse (the thieves left that behind) and I have it hooked up on the left side of my G4 keyboard. My wife is left handed, so she uses it. I must say I never liked it and though it was one of Apple's worst products.
In regards to the Mighty Mouse: not good enough for me!
Given that the majority of mouse pointers from both Logitech and Microsoft can connect through the USB port, even my old Logitech MX500 mouse pointer is still better than Apple's own mouse in MacOS X, mostly because I love how the MX500 comfortably fits in your hand and its "hefty" feel, which encourages more accurate mouse pointing.
I was bored, so I decided to look at these new tutorials on apple.com. In the wireless basics one, about halfway through, there are two pictures of a wireless mouse with no scroll ball and a grey apple logo instead of a white one. It is not the previous "droplet" mouse because you can see there isn't any clear plastic around it.
The mighty was a good idea, but a very poor execution. To be honest, It wasn't all that bad when it actually worked. Unfortunately, Apple is willing to continue with a flawed product rather than admit they have a little work to do.
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I had a Power Macintosh G3 (Blue & White) tower (bought Jan. 1999) that came with a smaller Apple keyboard and a hockey puck mouse. I used the word "had" because my house was burglarized and the G3 Tower was taken. I still have the hockey puck mouse (the thieves left that behind) and I have it hooked up on the left side of my G4 keyboard. My wife is left handed, so she uses it. I must say I never liked it and though it was one of Apple's worst products.
I hated the hockey pucks and the bondi blue keyboard. Fortunately I got to see what I was dealing with before I ordered my G3. Bought a ikey and a new mouse when I put in the order. Best keyboard I've ever owned until I got my hands on the new Aluminum keyboard. Still use it with my iBook.
I was bored, so I decided to look at these new tutorials on apple.com. In the wireless basics one, about halfway through, there are two pictures of a wireless mouse with no scroll ball and a grey apple logo instead of a white one. It is not the previous "droplet" mouse because you can see there isn't any clear plastic around it.
I was bored, so I decided to look at these new tutorials on apple.com. In the wireless basics one, about halfway through, there are two pictures of a wireless mouse with no scroll ball and a grey apple logo instead of a white one. It is not the previous "droplet" mouse because you can see there isn't any clear plastic around it.
The MM is junk, the only mouse that was worse, was the hockey puck mouse that came with the original iMac.
It's strange, that for all the UI things Apple does well, they've never made a great mouse - always style over substance. Real mice come from Logitech and Microsoft, Apple should just stop and outsource a design from one of those two.
My current mouse, is a Logitech V270 (Bluetooth), that I use with both my PCs and Mac. It just works.
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When talking about mice, "Optical" and "Laser" are NOT the same thing. Optical tracking is generally better than a scroll-ball, but Laser tracking is way more precise that Optical. The Apple mouse is merely an Optical device.
(Yes, I am aware that a Laser is, by definition, an "optical" technology, but in this particular case, optical refers to an LED source as opposed to a real laser.)
Just a quick note, the Wireless Mighty Mouse is a laser mouse
Virtually every third time I "right-clicked," the mouse would misinterpret it as a left-click.
The "squeeze-click" was so useless as to be joke-worthy. The maneuver required to accomplish a squeeze click was functionally equivalent to lifting the mouse and pressing a button on the bottom surface. Either way, your cursor ended up far away from where it started.
While I like the way the "nipple" functioned out-of-box, it only took a few days before the response was messed up due to particulate matter or finger oils.
I use a Microsoft Comfort Optical Mouse 3000 these days. It irritates me every day to see the Microsoft logo on something connected to my Mac. But the Mighty Mouse irritated me more!
I'd love a small, ambidextrous laser mouse with a scroll pad and a minimum of five buttons (left, middle, right, forward, back). Apparently no one (Apple Logitech, Microsoft) is capable of making such a device.
tftfy
You know, I was debating whether or not it was mice or mouses... I was told for the input device, it's actually mouses, not mice. I never know for sure.
Seriously, I don't mean to be rude here, but is anyone else getting tired of all the complaints from gamers? All I ever hear is "this sucks for gaming" or "that sucks for gaming" as if gaming is a serious task that has any important benefits other than personal entertainment? If gaming is a high priority for you than use a console or get a PC. Obviously gaming is not something that Apple seems to care about. Maybe that will change in the future, but some of us use our computers for things that are a little more important than sitting around playing mind-numbing games. Sorry if I sound arrogant. I don't mean to, I'm just getting tired of hearing the same thing over and over again. It's pointless.
Like I said, it sucks for everything. It sucks on the desktop. You'll just notice it even better with a game, because they are less forgiving.
The Mighty Mouse, despite having more than one button (or ability to detect more than one button) categorically does not function as a multi-button mouse.
This is what we would call not-isomorphic, right?
I don't know, I have not used extensively a Mighty Mouse to tell for sure, but I think the hockey puck one was the worst ever.
I used the puck for years - was ok with it. In the same way I'm ok with the MM. They're ok - just.
For my editing station tho' I bought a M$ IntelliSplorer thingy (on the recommendation of another editor) years ago, maybe 5 or 6.
It creaks - it groans but works great.
Mice are one of the few things that M$ do well.
I'd love a small, ambidextrous laser mouse with a scroll pad and a minimum of five buttons (left, middle, right, forward, back). Apparently no one (Apple Logitech, Microsoft) is capable of making such a device.
I use the Logitech VX Revolution (after trying about 1/2 dozen other mice) and love it. It sells for $70, but TigerDirect has it on sale now for $30.
VX Revolution?
High performance in an ergonomic design.
Highlights: Cordless, Forward/Back Buttons, Hyper-Fast Scrolling, Laser Sensor, MicroGear? Scroll Wheel, One-Touch Search, Right-Hand Design, Storable Receiver
USD 69.99
PN 931690-0403
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mi...s/165&cl=us,en
I have its big brother too. It's rechargeable while the smaller one uses an AA battery. If you have large hands, you'd probably like the MX? Revolution. The smaller one is easier to whip the cursor around the desktop.
Logitech VX Revolution Cordless Laser Mouse
TigerDirect
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...CODE=WEM1614AQ
$29.99*
Price After Rebate
Item #: L23-7202
I'd love a small, ambidextrous laser mouse with a scroll pad and a minimum of five buttons (left, middle, right, forward, back). Apparently no one (Apple Logitech, Microsoft) is capable of making such a device.
Scroll pad?
You might want to check out Razer mice like Pro|Click, Copperhead and Lachesis. These are all ambidextrous models. I find Razer's buttons and scroll wheel excellent, very responsive. Microsoft even licensed technology from Razer for their Habu and slapped their own logo on top when they couldn't keep up.
I guess you never used the hockey puck mouse that shipped with the original iMacs then. That was by far a worse ergonomic design. I honestly don't have a problem with the Mighty Mouse. It may not be the best mouse on the market but I'm not that picky when it comes to mouses and it looks nice (to me at least) so whatever.
I had a Power Macintosh G3 (Blue & White) tower (bought Jan. 1999) that came with a smaller Apple keyboard and a hockey puck mouse. I used the word "had" because my house was burglarized and the G3 Tower was taken. I still have the hockey puck mouse (the thieves left that behind) and I have it hooked up on the left side of my G4 keyboard. My wife is left handed, so she uses it. I must say I never liked it and though it was one of Apple's worst products.
I still have the hockey puck mouse (the thieves left that behind)
Even the thieves know their mice.
i don't like the click-drag performance.....
i gave my kids an old wireless 2 button mouse and my laptop mouse, easier for their hands
just got them both new imacs that screen is wonderful
i wish they had a power button on the key board though
Given that the majority of mouse pointers from both Logitech and Microsoft can connect through the USB port, even my old Logitech MX500 mouse pointer is still better than Apple's own mouse in MacOS X, mostly because I love how the MX500 comfortably fits in your hand and its "hefty" feel, which encourages more accurate mouse pointing.
http://www.apple.com/findouthow/mac/...wirelessbasics
I emailed AppleInsider about a day ago, and they haven't posted anything about it yet. Hmm.
I had a Power Macintosh G3 (Blue & White) tower (bought Jan. 1999) that came with a smaller Apple keyboard and a hockey puck mouse. I used the word "had" because my house was burglarized and the G3 Tower was taken. I still have the hockey puck mouse (the thieves left that behind) and I have it hooked up on the left side of my G4 keyboard. My wife is left handed, so she uses it. I must say I never liked it and though it was one of Apple's worst products.
I hated the hockey pucks and the bondi blue keyboard. Fortunately I got to see what I was dealing with before I ordered my G3. Bought a ikey and a new mouse when I put in the order. Best keyboard I've ever owned until I got my hands on the new Aluminum keyboard. Still use it with my iBook.
I was bored, so I decided to look at these new tutorials on apple.com. In the wireless basics one, about halfway through, there are two pictures of a wireless mouse with no scroll ball and a grey apple logo instead of a white one. It is not the previous "droplet" mouse because you can see there isn't any clear plastic around it.
http://www.apple.com/findouthow/mac/...wirelessbasics
I emailed AppleInsider about a day ago, and they haven't posted anything about it yet. Hmm.
That's the old single button wireless mouse.
I was bored, so I decided to look at these new tutorials on apple.com. In the wireless basics one, about halfway through, there are two pictures of a wireless mouse with no scroll ball and a grey apple logo instead of a white one. It is not the previous "droplet" mouse because you can see there isn't any clear plastic around it.
http://www.apple.com/findouthow/mac/...wirelessbasics
I emailed AppleInsider about a day ago, and they haven't posted anything about it yet. Hmm.
Anyone notice the big lie in that video? Are Apple allowed to say that?
"For a Wi-Fi? network in your home, you need an Apple® Airport? Basestation? that's connected to the internet..."
No, you don't. You can use any wifi router. The statement above is false and deliberately deceptive.
FOXPhotog
It's strange, that for all the UI things Apple does well, they've never made a great mouse - always style over substance. Real mice come from Logitech and Microsoft, Apple should just stop and outsource a design from one of those two.
My current mouse, is a Logitech V270 (Bluetooth), that I use with both my PCs and Mac. It just works.