To have to pay close to £200 for the box on top of that just kills the idea. You can pick up a DVD player for £20 and you can get unlimited rentals for £15 a month no time limits. If you add up the £200 ATV, you could get a DVD player and 12 months of unlimited DVD rentals and that's before even counting the cost of buying/renting any movies from Apple.
65,000? Love those big numbers! What's the wheat:chaff ratio? And how good is that web-design to cut through the chaff?
My AppleTV's great for HD photo's & music too. I suppose you could do SD photos & music on the DVD player though - in a classically manual kind of way.
It will be a combination of producer prices and tax that dictates the price, not Apple. The studios are hard-ass about these things, particularly in Europe. They are trying to avoid handing Steve ALL the crown jewels until the game is completely lost.
Though Apple really wants to move on from music to movies, the studios will forcibly make this remain an "Apple hobby."
So how do we, the consumers, make progress, i.e., get the studios to realize that there is a growing number of people who want to buy/rent ad-free digital downloads at reasonable prices? One step is to definitely complain about the prices and don't buy/rent at the current prices. Maybe even buy the AppleTV? Maybe refuse to watch ad-supported streams? Ideas?
Had a good chance to have a look at those movie titles last night on my UK ATV.
It would seem the studio's have set a min price at £6.99 for really old titles that you can pick up in most of the supermarkets for £2. I mean who'd give £7.00 for Trading Places?
The one great thing that Apple did with iTunes was to help stem the flow of music piracy, bring the record labels to heel by negotiating far more reasonable pricing than what was available at the time (remember music CD singles for £3.99?) at the same time giving a slice back to the artists.
In other worlds a lifestyle changing piece of technology that on balance seemed to give the best of both worlds to both business and consumer. Of course Apple didn't do too badly out of it either hence where they are today.
To me iTunes was a champion of the consumer. It offered real value. I was optimistic for the future. First music & video, Podcasts, TV shows and now films. Doesn't get any better than this.
Actually for me it gets worse.
It seems in their never ending quest to bring us new technology, Apple seem all to willing to bend over and take a beating from the very same Archaic Monopolists who deluded themselves into thinking they had us by the bollocks before.
Whilst i respect that iTunes is nothing without content and every now and then they have to dance with the devil, the pricing of movies on iTunes is shocking and perhaps exposes a weakness in Apple that wasn't apparent before. I mean the prices are so inconsistent. Almost as if somebody's done their research well on this one. All to predictable for me and that's a word you could never associate with Apple.
So what's the point? Where's the advantage? Where's the value? What's happened to the consumer champion. Why not offer crap films for £2 right from the off just like the supermarkets do and can?
Yes we want your technology. Yes we want the simplicity. But we don't want ripping off at the same time.
I'm afraid as well as dancing with the devil Apple may have jumped into bed as well.
Maybe this is one fanboi that has finally had his eyes opened.
You may be right about Apple getting in bed with the devil, but Apple may just be the camel getting ready to rip the tent down. Already I am spending more time watching and listening to free podcasts and YouTube videos than I am watching TV. Once enough people get used to downloading movies and music from the iTS they may start wondering over to the podcast section and start subscribing to the free podcasts. Alot of it is very good.
The problem with this dream is that over half of the ATV content screens are of the for pay iTS products.
Hello all, I am a long time reader, first time poster. I totally agree with the high price complaint for buying movies on iTunes Canada. I have been waiting a long time for Movies on iTunes Canada but am disappointed with the purchase price. The rental fee is fair but $19.99 for a new release purchase? What are they thinking? I can already purchase new releases for $4.99 with my Bell ExpressVu satellite PVR, and they don't disappear from my PVR after I watch them. Why would I pay $19.00 for the same movie on iTunes Canada?
I hope the purchase price comes down soon, then maybe I will think about buying.
1)Are you sure your buying them or is it just a rental.
2)Apple movie rentals are cheaper then most on demand services.
3)If bell is charging only $4.99 for a buy.If bell is doing this it bring up a whole whack of possible probleams it may cause for bell.
3a)Its one thing to charge less then the msrp for a movie.But to charge $4.99 when the msrp is $19.00 that may not be legal if bell is doing this.
3b)There is a bill that will likely pass where you can not store copy right movies/shows on your pvr.
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What does that mean?
Not only that, Apple's usage rights page says 48 hours as well:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1928
48 for the UK now too. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1931
It wasn't online earlier when I checked. So, Macworld UK is wrong.
Now get moving on the Aus store, I gots a lot of friends and family down there who are missing out!
Jimzip
My local Costcutter, which is about 10yds from my front door, rents out DVDs at 99p per night.
I'm happy for you.
My local Costcutter, which is about 10yds from my front door, rents out DVDs at 99p per night.
Then your path is clear Grasshopper.
lovefilm: 65,000+ titles
Apple: 1,200?
To have to pay close to £200 for the box on top of that just kills the idea. You can pick up a DVD player for £20 and you can get unlimited rentals for £15 a month no time limits. If you add up the £200 ATV, you could get a DVD player and 12 months of unlimited DVD rentals and that's before even counting the cost of buying/renting any movies from Apple.
65,000? Love those big numbers! What's the wheat:chaff ratio? And how good is that web-design to cut through the chaff?
My AppleTV's great for HD photo's & music too. I suppose you could do SD photos & music on the DVD player though - in a classically manual kind of way.
McD
It will be a combination of producer prices and tax that dictates the price, not Apple. The studios are hard-ass about these things, particularly in Europe. They are trying to avoid handing Steve ALL the crown jewels until the game is completely lost.
Though Apple really wants to move on from music to movies, the studios will forcibly make this remain an "Apple hobby."
So how do we, the consumers, make progress, i.e., get the studios to realize that there is a growing number of people who want to buy/rent ad-free digital downloads at reasonable prices? One step is to definitely complain about the prices and don't buy/rent at the current prices. Maybe even buy the AppleTV? Maybe refuse to watch ad-supported streams? Ideas?
It would seem the studio's have set a min price at £6.99 for really old titles that you can pick up in most of the supermarkets for £2. I mean who'd give £7.00 for Trading Places?
The one great thing that Apple did with iTunes was to help stem the flow of music piracy, bring the record labels to heel by negotiating far more reasonable pricing than what was available at the time (remember music CD singles for £3.99?) at the same time giving a slice back to the artists.
In other worlds a lifestyle changing piece of technology that on balance seemed to give the best of both worlds to both business and consumer. Of course Apple didn't do too badly out of it either hence where they are today.
To me iTunes was a champion of the consumer. It offered real value. I was optimistic for the future. First music & video, Podcasts, TV shows and now films. Doesn't get any better than this.
Actually for me it gets worse.
It seems in their never ending quest to bring us new technology, Apple seem all to willing to bend over and take a beating from the very same Archaic Monopolists who deluded themselves into thinking they had us by the bollocks before.
Whilst i respect that iTunes is nothing without content and every now and then they have to dance with the devil, the pricing of movies on iTunes is shocking and perhaps exposes a weakness in Apple that wasn't apparent before. I mean the prices are so inconsistent. Almost as if somebody's done their research well on this one. All to predictable for me and that's a word you could never associate with Apple.
So what's the point? Where's the advantage? Where's the value? What's happened to the consumer champion. Why not offer crap films for £2 right from the off just like the supermarkets do and can?
Yes we want your technology. Yes we want the simplicity. But we don't want ripping off at the same time.
I'm afraid as well as dancing with the devil Apple may have jumped into bed as well.
Maybe this is one fanboi that has finally had his eyes opened.
The problem with this dream is that over half of the ATV content screens are of the for pay iTS products.
Hello all, I am a long time reader, first time poster. I totally agree with the high price complaint for buying movies on iTunes Canada. I have been waiting a long time for Movies on iTunes Canada but am disappointed with the purchase price. The rental fee is fair but $19.99 for a new release purchase? What are they thinking? I can already purchase new releases for $4.99 with my Bell ExpressVu satellite PVR, and they don't disappear from my PVR after I watch them. Why would I pay $19.00 for the same movie on iTunes Canada?
I hope the purchase price comes down soon, then maybe I will think about buying.
1)Are you sure your buying them or is it just a rental.
2)Apple movie rentals are cheaper then most on demand services.
3)If bell is charging only $4.99 for a buy.If bell is doing this it bring up a whole whack of possible probleams it may cause for bell.
3a)Its one thing to charge less then the msrp for a movie.But to charge $4.99 when the msrp is $19.00 that may not be legal if bell is doing this.
3b)There is a bill that will likely pass where you can not store copy right movies/shows on your pvr.