iWeb?

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in macOS edited January 2014
a few mac sites are reporting some Apple employees leaked info about iWeb during demo days in France, a web browser bundled with Jaguar...



Thoughts?



<a href="http://www.macosxtech.com/news/?date=20020603#268"; target="_blank">http://www.macosxtech.com/news/?date=20020603#268</a>;



[ 06-07-2002: Message edited by: SYN ]</p>
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  • Reply 1 of 36
    macmattmacmatt Posts: 91member
    Is there an english version of that site, I'ld like to know what it said...
  • Reply 2 of 36
    murkmurk Posts: 935member
    [quote]Originally posted by MacMatt:

    <strong>Is there an english version of that site, I'ld like to know what it said...</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I think this BabelFish translation makes everything clear?



    It is today that with take place the Strasbourgeoise edition of the Professional Meetings APPLE, and of course were we there... I nothing will detail you here, a more complete article will follow the next week (with in premium small a video). I on the other hand will be delayed on the small things which "filtered": 1-APPLE is well developing a navigator Web, it is in fact Cyber-Dog which gets busy there. The name of the software?? Go! Guess it is not hard.... iWeb of course, it will be normally delivered in Jaguar. 2 it version X.1.5 de MacOSX server is available, and await nothing any more but the version customer to be diffused, tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. The major evolution of this grinding is the possibility of booter MacOSX without screen... (ben yes for XServe) Jaguar, will not be can-to be not paying and that it is rather a good news. Indeed, it may be that Jaguar, the next version of MacOSX, sees itself numbered X.2 and is not paying, it would be then simple a maj. Or then Jaguar would be numbered X.5 and would become in this case paying.... Go Steve a small gesture to finish making migrate your users towards MacOSX 4-L' eMac, when it has should not remain very a long time held in the world of education. Indeed a parrallèle with another machine proposed by APPLE a few years ago under same the conditions, has to let to us at most include/understand that this state was not going to last, time that the mass production takes its rate/rhythm of cruising. Here thus for small the infos that noous could glanner Ci and there during this afternoon, my extremely pleasant faith.



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    [ 06-07-2002: Message edited by: murk ]</p>
  • Reply 3 of 36
    ibrowseibrowse Posts: 1,749member
    [quote]it will be normally delivered in Jaguar. 2 it version X.1.5 de MacOSX server is available, and await nothing any more but the version customer to be diffused, tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. The major evolution of this grinding is the possibility of booter MacOSX without screen... (ben yes for XServe) <hr></blockquote>



    ..Drunk Dr. Suess???
  • Reply 4 of 36
    spartspart Posts: 2,060member
    Here is what it says as far as I can tell...even though I know nothing of french and have a very small understanding of the romance lanugages.



    Today the Strasbourgeoise edition of the Apple Professional meetings took place, and we were there of course. I will detail nothing here, a more complete article will follow next week (with a small premium video.) On the other hand, I will report the small things that filtered: Apple is developing a Web Browser, which is actually Cyber-Dog. The name of the software? Guess, it is not hard...iWeb of course, it will be packaged with Jaguar. Mac OS X 10.1.5 server is available, and it is held back by the consumer version, which will be available tomorrow or the next day. The major change in this version is the possiblity to boot OS X headless (and yes it is for the Xserve.) Jaguar will not be a paid upgrade, and that is good news. It may be that Jaguar will be version 10.2 and will not be a paid upgrade. On the other hand it may be version 10.5 and in this case would be a paid upgrade....lets give Steve a small gesture to finnish migrating his customers to Mac OS X. The eMac should not stay very long in the education world. It is similar to another machine proposed at Apple a few years ago under the same conditions, it will not last in its current state, and will be released to the public when mass production gets going. Thank you for the small ammount of information you could give this afternoon.
  • Reply 5 of 36
    murkmurk Posts: 935member
    If CyberDog is finally coming home again, does this mean OpenDoc is still alive? :eek: I don't buy it. I'd say this has more to do with the Chimera/Apple rumors than anything else.



    [ 06-07-2002: Message edited by: murk ]</p>
  • Reply 6 of 36
    engpjpengpjp Posts: 124member
    OpenDoc was based on the idea of a modularized approach to applications. OSX includes that in a limited sense, as Services, but the business model of OpenDoc led it to be abandoned: there was no incentive for large companies to develop for it, since only monolithic applications give any major revenue.

    But Apple may be developing a CyberDog-like browser in the form of a set of services which can then be enhanced with new modules and interchanged with improved versions. However, I doubt that it would be introduced at this point of time - out of business political concerns.



    engpjp
  • Reply 7 of 36
    fran441fran441 Posts: 3,715member
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but Cyberdog was not built on NCSA/Mosaic, and therefore would have a radical difference in performance from IE and other mainstream browsers (hopefully faster rather than slower). If that's true, they could use some core elements of Cyberdog and use it as a web browser.



    In fact, these technologies must have been constantly updated as they appear in such Apple programs as Sherlock and the Help application.
  • Reply 8 of 36
    bellebelle Posts: 1,574member
    Rumors like this are inevitable given that the Apple/Microsoft agreement ends on August 6.



    I'm racking my brain to find reasons why Microsoft should continue developing Internet Explorer as a free browser for Macintosh once the agreement expires. Clearly it's let Outlook Express go already.
  • Reply 9 of 36
    yurin8oryurin8or Posts: 120member
    woot opendoc! better yet bring back Taligent OS!! woot! woot! oh, enough wooting.
  • Reply 10 of 36
    nebagakidnebagakid Posts: 2,692member
    Apple should include all the OSX web browsers like they did with Netscape and Internet Explorer. During the set up assistant, it would have a screen shot of each with a radio button and a description and they can choose which one.



    "iWeb- Apple's new web browser. Basically the same idea of a cocoa web browser, Like OmniWeb, but brushed metal. HAHAHAHAHA, first Watson, then OmniWeb!!!!!!!!!!!"



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  • Reply 11 of 36
    [quote]Originally posted by Belle:

    <strong>Rumors like this are inevitable given that the Apple/Microsoft agreement ends on August 6.



    I'm racking my brain to find reasons why Microsoft should continue developing Internet Explorer as a free browser for Macintosh once the agreement expires. Clearly it's let Outlook Express go already.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I think OE was done in by mail.app. I think having IE for both platforms makes it (in theory, see Danforth for reality) a cross platform standard (though Mozilla I believe is available on more platforms)
  • Reply 12 of 36
    squashsquash Posts: 332member
    I can see people talking about iweb maybe being a bad thing, or microsoftish. the references to watson are bs though....Sherlock has been around for many years now, before watson was even something any of us cared about.



    Acting like Apple is moving in on Watson is a complete joke.....Watson is a Sherlock type app that works better.
  • Reply 13 of 36
    scott f.scott f. Posts: 276member
    low-tech debunking...



    The reason I have doubts on this product is out of sheer hope that Apple's Marketing has not fallen THAT far from their original intentions.



    (Stay with me here)...



    The "i" in the original iMac stood for "Internet"... correct? This was the computer to buy if you wanted 3-Steps (2 really) to accessing the internet.



    Well... not far after the iMac came iSub. Hmmmm... okay, it's really not an "Internet"-Sub... it's a Sub for the iMac... so we'lll bastardize of marketing campaign to tie the two products together. Then along came things like iTunes... a MUSIC player... but it DOES access the internet for the CDDB and for internet streams of music... so we'll let it slide.



    iMovie...? well... uhhh... I guess you could upload the movie when you're done, but other than that, it's not an "Internet" app. iPod...? that's 3-degrees of seperation... it grabs the "i" from iTunes which got it from the... wait... what did it get it from again...?



    but...iDVD, iPhoto and now you want us to buy-into the name iWeb...? Internet Web...? That's the same as "Department of Redundancy Department". I don't WANT this rumor to be true... I am hoping that Apple is gonna "get it" and drop the whole "i" thing and just put more thought into it.



    it used to mean "Internet", but for some apps, it is an indication of a lower-end consumer version of a Pro product: FCP/iMovie, DVD-SP/iDVD... or a bundled solution: iTunes, iPhoto...



    They need to either DROP the "i" or come-up with a clear marketing decision for it's USE.



    Just my 2 cents...
  • Reply 14 of 36
    surfratsurfrat Posts: 341member
    For some reason to me, it seems highly unlikely that Apple will call their browser "iWeb." Take their mail client for example. Since it isn't a media application, (iTunes, iMovie, iPhoto, iDVD) it does not have the "i" prefix. It is simply "Mail."



    If Apple were to release a browser, it would probably be along the lines of "Browser" or "Internet" or something simple like that.
  • Reply 15 of 36
    scott f.scott f. Posts: 276member
    iHope they don't use iWeb.
  • Reply 16 of 36
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    [quote]Originally posted by Scott F.:

    <strong>low-tech debunking...



    The reason I have doubts on this product is out of sheer hope that Apple's Marketing has not fallen THAT far from their original intentions.



    (Stay with me here)...



    The "i" in the original iMac stood for "Internet"... correct? This was the computer to buy if you wanted 3-Steps (2 really) to accessing the internet.



    Well... not far after the iMac came iSub. Hmmmm... okay, it's really not an "Internet"-Sub... it's a Sub for the iMac... so we'lll bastardize of marketing campaign to tie the two products together. Then along came things like iTunes... a MUSIC player... but it DOES access the internet for the CDDB and for internet streams of music... so we'll let it slide.



    iMovie...? well... uhhh... I guess you could upload the movie when you're done, but other than that, it's not an "Internet" app. iPod...? that's 3-degrees of seperation... it grabs the "i" from iTunes which got it from the... wait... what did it get it from again...?



    but...iDVD, iPhoto and now you want us to buy-into the name iWeb...? Internet Web...? That's the same as "Department of Redundancy Department". I don't WANT this rumor to be true... I am hoping that Apple is gonna "get it" and drop the whole "i" thing and just put more thought into it.



    it used to mean "Internet", but for some apps, it is an indication of a lower-end consumer version of a Pro product: FCP/iMovie, DVD-SP/iDVD... or a bundled solution: iTunes, iPhoto...



    They need to either DROP the "i" or come-up with a clear marketing decision for it's USE.



    Just my 2 cents...</strong><hr></blockquote>





    jesus christ. stop overthinking everything.



    it is a clear marketing decision. i for consumers. that's how it is. who gives a **** what it stands for. it's there. it works. it's recognizable.
  • Reply 17 of 36
    scott f.scott f. Posts: 276member
    [quote]Originally posted by applenut:

    <strong>





    jesus christ. stop overthinking everything.



    it is a clear marketing decision. i for consumers. that's how it is. who gives a **** what it stands for. it's there. it works. it's recognizable.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Ever hear of decaff...?



    You obviously didn't read the light-hearted whimsy that was intended in that post. Chill-out, relax... no need to get all "huffy"...



    If you were offended, iAppologize...



    - Scott
  • Reply 18 of 36
    spartspart Posts: 2,060member
    [quote]Originally posted by applenut:

    <strong>





    jesus christ. stop overthinking everything.



    it is a clear marketing decision. i for consumers. that's how it is. who gives a **** what it stands for. it's there. it works. it's recognizable.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    That is exactly what I thought. i is the prefix for consumer apps/computers/devces, and Power/Pro is the prefix for Pro apps/computers/devices. It just kinda morphed into being that way. And now the different lines of products are very clearly distinguishable.
  • Reply 19 of 36
    yurin8oryurin8or Posts: 120member
    [quote]Originally posted by applenut:

    <strong>





    jesus christ. stop overthinking everything.



    it is a clear marketing decision. i for consumers. that's how it is. who gives a **** what it stands for. it's there. it works. it's recognizable.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    and it's crap. who but, "Joe Loser^^^" likes it?



    iVeHadEnough.
  • Reply 20 of 36
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    [quote]Originally posted by Scott F.:

    <strong>



    Ever hear of decaff...?



    You obviously didn't read the light-hearted whimsy that was intended in that post. Chill-out, relax... no need to get all "huffy"...



    If you were offended, iAppologize...



    - Scott</strong><hr></blockquote>



    just adding my 2 cents honey

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