$7 is for unlimited WAP browsing, that's it. Not a very good feature, IMO. At least with the iPhone plan I know whatever I do on the device will be covers and I won't go over the allotted data provided.
I don't think so. Knowing Rogers, as soon as you go over the allotted level, the $$$$ per MB kicks in.
I think Rogers is banking on people breaching the threshold and the dollars would be flowing in.
Doing a quick test using Facebook as the sample site... at 1.24MB, the 400MB data plan equals 333 webpages a month. NO WHERE NEAR 3000 sites... maybe if you were surfing text-based sites google.ca or the wiki homepage. But anything with an image on the page is going blow those estimates all to hell.
I am under the impression that 400MB for $60 is cheap for Rogers. Please correct me if wrong.
PS: While un- and in- mean the same thing they have different origins. the first is Germanic and the latter is Latin. 'Unconceivable' is an inconventional spelling for 'inconceivable'.
Well $65 gets you 1 Gb right now over Edge on Rogers. The point is though that one shouldn't have to justify it by saying "Oh well, it's pretty good... for Rogers". We should be getting a better deal! Plain and simple. Our dollar is on par with the US right now and has been for a while. Is $60 US a good deal for 400Mb of data? I think not. Why are we continually being denied a true unlimited data plan? It's issues like these coupled with incredibly poor customer service that cause Rogers to be hated, but ultimately a necessary evil as there's no GSM competition here.
PS. I probably put "UN" because I was thinking about the next word "unacceptable". Oh well, as you pointed out, it wasn't exactly wrong.
Was very excited about getting an iPhone, but did keep in mind that Rogers would do its best to kill you on the charges. Unless we get some real competition up here will not be getting an iphone. Happy with the BB for now and most likely the forseeable future.
Is $60 US a good deal for 400Mb of data? I think not. Why are we continually being denied a true unlimited data plan?
Well - idk. Some folks may opt for saving the $10 a month (+tax) if they don't plan on using 400MB via the cell tower (a lot of people go Wi-Fi hopping these days).
However, the fact that there is no unlimited plan is just a complete crock and until there's some real competition it's going to stay that way. AT&T has a little competition but not much that's why all our friends over in the EU are getting better deals than here in North America - massive competition.
Also - the mins on those plans look pretty crappy. Only positive I found in all of that was free incoming texts...
That makes no sense unless you quantify it. Id est, why would I choose the $20/month unlmited data plan if their an unlimited data plan for $7.
You are right, they don't make sense. I believe that is intentional. There are some differentiating features. First, when they claim 'unlimited' you have to realize this only includes using Fido/Rogers sanctioned apps and does not include MMS messaging, or email. It is only browsing data. When I called them, they claim it is not limited to a few preprogrammed sites or WAP sites. So, the differet plans do differ based on email levels, MMS options, number of text messages.
The point was, that you could add the various data plans onto your existing voice package.
$7 is for unlimited WAP browsing, that's it. Not a very good feature, IMO. At least with the iPhone plan I know whatever I do on the device will be covers and I won't go over the allotted data provided.
The Fido reps I spoke to about this plan last week said it is absolutely not limited to WAP sites*. The $7 does only include web browsing though, so you are right, it is still very limited.
* I am fully open to the possibility that the were lying or were referring to the $15 or $20 plans.
The Fido reps I spoke to about this plan last week said it is absolutely not limited to WAP sites*. The $7 does only include web browsing though, so you are right, it is still very limited.
* I am fully open to the possibility that the were lying or were referring to the $15 or $20 plans.
Well, the phones that plan works with all pretty much have crap browsers that don't do real html. I don't think it supports the N95, I could be wrong though. Either way, all you get is browsing. At least with my gouging iPhone plan I can go to YouTube, do GPS shite, browse, download music, etc. I'm not overly ecstatic about this pricing but they finally have data prices that aren't completely insane (related to past pricing of Rogers only of course).
Well, the phones that plan works with all pretty much have crap browsers that don't do real html. I don't think it supports the N95, I could be wrong though. Either way, all you get is browsing. At least with my gouging iPhone plan I can go to YouTube, do GPS shite, browse, download music, etc. I'm not overly ecstatic about this pricing but they finally have data prices that aren't completely insane (related to past pricing of Rogers only of course).
What I don't like about them is that I cannot add the iphone data portion to my existing voice plan. For me to get an iphone plan and not lose current features, I would need the $75 iphone plan + the $20 'Value' pack add-on. I currently get 300 daytime, unlimited nights/weekends starting at 7PM and call display, call forwarding, voice mail etc. The closest iPhone plan from Rogers/Fido is $75 (to get the 300 daytime minutes) and I would need the $20 to get my call display and 7PM evenings back. That is $95, which is over 3x the monthly rate I pay now. Essentially, I am paying $65 more per month for the data side. That I cannot just add on data to my existing plan for some reasonable rate is bullshit.
I was going to get one, but absolutely will not be upgrading in the near or medium term until the plans drop in price or Rogers/Fido announces how they will handle existing customers with existing plans. I should not have to give up features to get the iphone nor should I have to triple my monthly bill to get the iphone and keep my existing features. These are currently the options provided, so I am a no.
Rogers said data-less plans for the iPhone, with just voice and basic text, will start at $15 a month.
If this is true, it might be the only way I can afford an iPhone!
Of course, the $15 is probably minimal minutes and doesn't include the SAF etc.
Now, if they would go the other way too...have a data only portion that you could get to add-on to your existing voice plan.
Too bad. I would have liked an iPhone. Rogers could have played fair and would have attracted many more new users. As it is, here I am, an Apple user since 1982 and an existing Fido/Rogers customer (~8-9 years) who has been patiently waiting for the Canadian release for a year. I a SW developer in the tech industry and my office is surrounded by RIM staff and offices and I have never had an interesting in paying for a BB. I am a perfect, brand loyal, target customer and I will not be buying an iPhone from Rogers unless something changes. If they can't get me to buy (who should have been their easiest sale), then there are probably many, many others who feel the same and will also not buy. The have blown their opportunity by using the pent up demand for the iPhone for a little gouging. Perhaps, when Canadian numbers fall below expectations and certainly below other countries offering decent plans, Rogers will wake up and make some corrections.
Wish AT&T would offer an unlimited plan such as Sprint's Simply Everything Unlimited plan for $99.99/month. I think that is a great plan but do not know how well the Sprint Network is. My plan just ended for Nextel, and am deciding about the Instinct from Sprint or wait for the New 3G iPhone. Total additional cost over contract for same option is extra $720. Big difference, but gotta see if it is worth it.
What a joke. But not unexpected. Rogers is a horrible horrible company.
I was waiting to cancel my Razor with Rogers until the iPhone came out, I guess I can now go ahead and cancel it. You would have to be extremely wealthy, or a complete idiot to sign that contract. Mind you, the government imposed a law that only lets them sue you for a maximum of $250 for breaking a cell contract.
Looks like a lot of people are going to get bad credit and a $250 lawsuit.
Looks like iPod Touch for me.
I hope this spawns a more open access network, hotspots. I also hope a meteor falls on Rogers HQ and kills them all.
I have a family plan with Bell and I was hoping getting one with Rogers.
I live in Montreal, work in another city (50km away) and my girl lives in another place (another 50km away). I was counting on voice plan that includes some long distance time (1000 min or illimited) to communicate with work or my girl (like I have with Bell) and then add a 30$ or so data plan.
If I quit Bell for Rogers, we'll be needing a cell phone for her (I was even considering getting her an iPhone) and an iPhone for me. But what will be the final costs? For what us frenchmen call "une bebelle" (a toy)...
Gee, I hope on july 11th Rogers will have somekind of flexibility... (I am dreaming).
I cant wait to see the coming of Videotron in this game. Only then us Canadian, will finally get fair service for our money.
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$7 is for unlimited WAP browsing, that's it. Not a very good feature, IMO. At least with the iPhone plan I know whatever I do on the device will be covers and I won't go over the allotted data provided.
I don't think so. Knowing Rogers, as soon as you go over the allotted level, the $$$$ per MB kicks in.
I think Rogers is banking on people breaching the threshold and the dollars would be flowing in.
http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/e...en/01260e.html
I am under the impression that 400MB for $60 is cheap for Rogers. Please correct me if wrong.
PS: While un- and in- mean the same thing they have different origins. the first is Germanic and the latter is Latin. 'Unconceivable' is an inconventional spelling for 'inconceivable'.
Well $65 gets you 1 Gb right now over Edge on Rogers. The point is though that one shouldn't have to justify it by saying "Oh well, it's pretty good... for Rogers". We should be getting a better deal! Plain and simple. Our dollar is on par with the US right now and has been for a while. Is $60 US a good deal for 400Mb of data? I think not. Why are we continually being denied a true unlimited data plan? It's issues like these coupled with incredibly poor customer service that cause Rogers to be hated, but ultimately a necessary evil as there's no GSM competition here.
PS. I probably put "UN" because I was thinking about the next word "unacceptable". Oh well, as you pointed out, it wasn't exactly wrong.
I heard even Ted Rogers can't afford one
For Canadians:
http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/e...en/01260e.html
It won't matter now that the wireless auctions are closing. The Bureau and CRTC would just point out there WILL be competition sometime soon.
Let's hope some of these emerging carriers move quickly.
Is $60 US a good deal for 400Mb of data? I think not. Why are we continually being denied a true unlimited data plan?
Well - idk. Some folks may opt for saving the $10 a month (+tax) if they don't plan on using 400MB via the cell tower (a lot of people go Wi-Fi hopping these days).
However, the fact that there is no unlimited plan is just a complete crock and until there's some real competition it's going to stay that way. AT&T has a little competition but not much that's why all our friends over in the EU are getting better deals than here in North America - massive competition.
Also - the mins on those plans look pretty crappy. Only positive I found in all of that was free incoming texts...
That makes no sense unless you quantify it. Id est, why would I choose the $20/month unlmited data plan if their an unlimited data plan for $7.
You are right, they don't make sense. I believe that is intentional. There are some differentiating features. First, when they claim 'unlimited' you have to realize this only includes using Fido/Rogers sanctioned apps and does not include MMS messaging, or email. It is only browsing data. When I called them, they claim it is not limited to a few preprogrammed sites or WAP sites. So, the differet plans do differ based on email levels, MMS options, number of text messages.
The point was, that you could add the various data plans onto your existing voice package.
$7 is for unlimited WAP browsing, that's it. Not a very good feature, IMO. At least with the iPhone plan I know whatever I do on the device will be covers and I won't go over the allotted data provided.
The Fido reps I spoke to about this plan last week said it is absolutely not limited to WAP sites*. The $7 does only include web browsing though, so you are right, it is still very limited.
* I am fully open to the possibility that the were lying or were referring to the $15 or $20 plans.
The Fido reps I spoke to about this plan last week said it is absolutely not limited to WAP sites*. The $7 does only include web browsing though, so you are right, it is still very limited.
* I am fully open to the possibility that the were lying or were referring to the $15 or $20 plans.
Well, the phones that plan works with all pretty much have crap browsers that don't do real html. I don't think it supports the N95, I could be wrong though. Either way, all you get is browsing. At least with my gouging iPhone plan I can go to YouTube, do GPS shite, browse, download music, etc. I'm not overly ecstatic about this pricing but they finally have data prices that aren't completely insane (related to past pricing of Rogers only of course).
Well, the phones that plan works with all pretty much have crap browsers that don't do real html. I don't think it supports the N95, I could be wrong though. Either way, all you get is browsing. At least with my gouging iPhone plan I can go to YouTube, do GPS shite, browse, download music, etc. I'm not overly ecstatic about this pricing but they finally have data prices that aren't completely insane (related to past pricing of Rogers only of course).
What I don't like about them is that I cannot add the iphone data portion to my existing voice plan. For me to get an iphone plan and not lose current features, I would need the $75 iphone plan + the $20 'Value' pack add-on. I currently get 300 daytime, unlimited nights/weekends starting at 7PM and call display, call forwarding, voice mail etc. The closest iPhone plan from Rogers/Fido is $75 (to get the 300 daytime minutes) and I would need the $20 to get my call display and 7PM evenings back. That is $95, which is over 3x the monthly rate I pay now. Essentially, I am paying $65 more per month for the data side. That I cannot just add on data to my existing plan for some reasonable rate is bullshit.
I was going to get one, but absolutely will not be upgrading in the near or medium term until the plans drop in price or Rogers/Fido announces how they will handle existing customers with existing plans. I should not have to give up features to get the iphone nor should I have to triple my monthly bill to get the iphone and keep my existing features. These are currently the options provided, so I am a no.
Rogers said data-less plans for the iPhone, with just voice and basic text, will start at $15 a month.
If this is true, it might be the only way I can afford an iPhone!
Of course, the $15 is probably minimal minutes and doesn't include the SAF etc.
At Canada.com, the end of the article states:
Rogers said data-less plans for the iPhone, with just voice and basic text, will start at $15 a month.
If this is true, it might be the only way I can afford an iPhone!
Of course, the $15 is probably minimal minutes and doesn't include the SAF etc.
Now, if they would go the other way too...have a data only portion that you could get to add-on to your existing voice plan.
Too bad. I would have liked an iPhone. Rogers could have played fair and would have attracted many more new users. As it is, here I am, an Apple user since 1982 and an existing Fido/Rogers customer (~8-9 years) who has been patiently waiting for the Canadian release for a year. I a SW developer in the tech industry and my office is surrounded by RIM staff and offices and I have never had an interesting in paying for a BB. I am a perfect, brand loyal, target customer and I will not be buying an iPhone from Rogers unless something changes. If they can't get me to buy (who should have been their easiest sale), then there are probably many, many others who feel the same and will also not buy. The have blown their opportunity by using the pent up demand for the iPhone for a little gouging. Perhaps, when Canadian numbers fall below expectations and certainly below other countries offering decent plans, Rogers will wake up and make some corrections.
For Canadians:
http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/e...en/01260e.html
wicked. thanks man. i will post this on the other forums
I was waiting to cancel my Razor with Rogers until the iPhone came out, I guess I can now go ahead and cancel it. You would have to be extremely wealthy, or a complete idiot to sign that contract. Mind you, the government imposed a law that only lets them sue you for a maximum of $250 for breaking a cell contract.
Looks like a lot of people are going to get bad credit and a $250 lawsuit.
Looks like iPod Touch for me.
I hope this spawns a more open access network, hotspots. I also hope a meteor falls on Rogers HQ and kills them all.
I hope this spawns a more open access network, hotspots. I also hope a meteor falls on Rogers HQ and kills them all.
I hope they include a barrel of lube with each contract. Otherwise there are going to be a lot of ripped off Canadians walking around sore.
I have a family plan with Bell and I was hoping getting one with Rogers.
I live in Montreal, work in another city (50km away) and my girl lives in another place (another 50km away). I was counting on voice plan that includes some long distance time (1000 min or illimited) to communicate with work or my girl (like I have with Bell) and then add a 30$ or so data plan.
If I quit Bell for Rogers, we'll be needing a cell phone for her (I was even considering getting her an iPhone) and an iPhone for me. But what will be the final costs? For what us frenchmen call "une bebelle" (a toy)...
Gee, I hope on july 11th Rogers will have somekind of flexibility... (I am dreaming).
I cant wait to see the coming of Videotron in this game. Only then us Canadian, will finally get fair service for our money.