Making PDF an ISO standard should allow applications like Pages, Word, WordPerfect, AbiWord, KWrite, Mellel, etc. to create/open/modify a pdf document as easily as its own "native" format, correct? If so, would it make more sense to save to PDF than ODF due to the number of PDF readers out there?
Not that easy. pdf is bitsy ie it doesn't store the text as a continuous string
Nor do the graphics parse neatly, as you will find out if you open a pdf file in Illustrator to edit it. Simple shapes, line and text are fine but soon as you venture into blends at angles, text with letterspace edited, and combinations with masking etc applied, it really becomes fun to unpick it.
Apple can do it because it is not a monopoly. However, if Microsoft did the same, it potentially could kill Adobe's profitable Acrobat business by virtue of Microsoft's market share in Personal Computers. For instance, Microsoft could use Word to create PDFs, which for many people would kill the need for Acrobat. That is classic using your monopoly status to quash competition.
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Is it really? If so, how come Apple can do it? If I am wrong I apologise..I don't know if they have paid some sort of licensing fee...but isn't it the same thing?
If MS does it it's illegal, if Apple does it, it's ok?
I think it's primary purpose was to make formatting platform independent. You view a PDF file on multiple platforms and it will look the same. However, it also allows authors to control the extend they want to enable copying. I for one want the ability to edit the PDFs easier.
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The sender was a moron. You output to PDF expressly to make changes HARDER and the appearance less platform dependent. The exact opposite of sending something for edits. Just send the damn source file, there's even one less step involved to do that!
Following in the wake of BruceLee, Skim is also a PDF commenting application, and it is free software. It won't change the actual file, but you can mark it up plenty good.
I think it's primary purpose was to make formatting platform independent. You view a PDF file on multiple platforms and it will look the same. However, it also allows authors to control the extend they want to enable copying. I for one want the ability to edit the PDFs easier.
So buy Acrobat Pro. It is the only product available to do that currently. Adobe wanted it that way.
Controlling copying is a form of disallowing editing. The fact some other tools partially get around the spec doesn't mean the spec was designed to do the things that were partially circumvented. You may WANT the ability to edit PDFs, but the point of PDF is NOT to be edited unless you have Acrobat Pro. Granted that may change over the next few months.
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I disagree. PDFs can
And I can fly. But I cannot fly without the proper tool, an aircraft, and expect the end result to be favorable. But even then, I just can't see the situation where collaborating on the PDF itself could possibly be easier or have better quality than doing the work in a source document software package. That's a lot like trying to hover in a DC-10, the end result just isn't the same.
Making PDF an ISO standard should allow applications like Pages, Word, WordPerfect, AbiWord, KWrite, Mellel, etc. to create/open/modify a pdf document as easily as its own "native" format, correct? If so, would it make more sense to save to PDF than ODF due to the number of PDF readers out there
Making PDF an ISO standard should allow applications like Pages, Word, WordPerfect, AbiWord, KWrite, Mellel, etc. to create/open/modify a pdf document as easily as its own "native" format, correct? ..:
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Making PDF an ISO standard should allow applications like Pages, Word, WordPerfect, AbiWord, KWrite, Mellel, etc. to create/open/modify a pdf document as easily as its own "native" format, correct? If so, would it make more sense to save to PDF than ODF due to the number of PDF readers out there?
Not that easy. pdf is bitsy ie it doesn't store the text as a continuous string
Nor do the graphics parse neatly, as you will find out if you open a pdf file in Illustrator to edit it. Simple shapes, line and text are fine but soon as you venture into blends at angles, text with letterspace edited, and combinations with masking etc applied, it really becomes fun to unpick it.
Is it really? If so, how come Apple can do it? If I am wrong I apologise..I don't know if they have paid some sort of licensing fee...but isn't it the same thing?
If MS does it it's illegal, if Apple does it, it's ok?
The sender was a moron. You output to PDF expressly to make changes HARDER and the appearance less platform dependent. The exact opposite of sending something for edits. Just send the damn source file, there's even one less step involved to do that!
Following in the wake of BruceLee, Skim is also a PDF commenting application, and it is free software. It won't change the actual file, but you can mark it up plenty good.
I disagree. PDFs can
Interesting timing with the whole OpenDocument versus Office Open XML playing out recently.
I think it's primary purpose was to make formatting platform independent. You view a PDF file on multiple platforms and it will look the same. However, it also allows authors to control the extend they want to enable copying. I for one want the ability to edit the PDFs easier.
So buy Acrobat Pro. It is the only product available to do that currently. Adobe wanted it that way.
Controlling copying is a form of disallowing editing. The fact some other tools partially get around the spec doesn't mean the spec was designed to do the things that were partially circumvented. You may WANT the ability to edit PDFs, but the point of PDF is NOT to be edited unless you have Acrobat Pro. Granted that may change over the next few months.
I disagree. PDFs can
And I can fly. But I cannot fly without the proper tool, an aircraft, and expect the end result to be favorable. But even then, I just can't see the situation where collaborating on the PDF itself could possibly be easier or have better quality than doing the work in a source document software package. That's a lot like trying to hover in a DC-10, the end result just isn't the same.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
Hope this helps someon.
Office 2007 already has a plugin to save files as PDF. ...
You do understand that this is a Windows product, don't you?
adobe take a step to become a ISO standard ...
Making PDF an ISO standard should allow applications like Pages, Word, WordPerfect, AbiWord, KWrite, Mellel, etc. to create/open/modify a pdf document as easily as its own "native" format, correct? If so, would it make more sense to save to PDF than ODF due to the number of PDF readers out there
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Making PDF an ISO standard should allow applications like Pages, Word, WordPerfect, AbiWord, KWrite, Mellel, etc. to create/open/modify a pdf document as easily as its own "native" format, correct? ..:
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