G4+ by MWTY
Got some information from an apple rep today. He said that the G4+ (7460?) would be out by Macworld Tokyo, maybe sooner, and would be a bit above 1Ghz (but not waaayyy over like some are speculating). He said that there wouldn't be any G5 till next year at the earliest. Also that the new machines would still be quicksilvers and may not have DDR memory (but apple is trying as hard as they can to get DDR in them). He said he's seen the machines and they are fast. Also he mentioned that they might have some dual core feature or hypertreading in that one chip would operate like two. I'm not sure if he's right about that, but it does sound interesting. He's also not sure if there will be dual procs versions of these new machines. But he did say they were fast and that anyone is stupid who would buy a new tower right now when these machines are right around the corner.
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and please spare me the "Mhz doesn't matter" crap. Your right MHz does not matter, but I'll bet my LWA that the 2.2 ghz PIV will soundly outpace a G4 that is " a bit above 1Ghz"
Just a thought.
P.S. Please spare me the "then just buy a wintel machine" crap too. I love Apple, but doesn't mean I can't bitch!!
HOWEVER, I don't believe for one minute that an Apple employee is going to make the statement that anyone who buys a tower now is stupid. That just doesn't do Apple any good.
Usually Apple reps don't know shit about what they are talking about
Slightly higher than 1Ghz G4 with old bus is going to be a tragic
<strong>Got some information from an apple rep today. He said that the G4+ (7460?) would be out by Macworld Tokyo, maybe sooner, and would be a bit above 1Ghz (but not waaayyy over like some are speculating). He said that there wouldn't be any G5 till next year at the earliest. Also that the new machines would still be quicksilvers and may not have DDR memory (but apple is trying as hard as they can to get DDR in them). He said he's seen the machines and they are fast. Also he mentioned that they might have some dual core feature or hypertreading in that one chip would operate like two. I'm not sure if he's right about that, but it does sound interesting. He's also not sure if there will be dual procs versions of these new machines. But he did say they were fast and that anyone is stupid who would buy a new tower right now when these machines are right around the corner.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Now, how does this fit with the ee times story that all machines will soon be dual. Could the 7460 actually be a twin core chip? I know that such a beast was always intended for the G4 family, but had thought it had been abandoned. Eventually, no doubt the 7460 will also find its way into the iMac.
Just a thought.
Michael
HOWEVER, I don't believe for one minute that an Apple employee is going to make the statement that anyone who buys a tower now is stupid. That just doesn't do Apple any good.[/QB]<hr></blockquote>
I'm sorry you don't believe it, but that's what he said. Now like I said about the dual core thingy, I'm not too sure about that being a reality. OTOH, I think if you can get a good deal on an 800MHZ machine that would be pretty good and could hold you off till the G5's arrive sometime next year (or the 2nd Gen of the G5)
[ 01-09-2002: Message edited by: twinturbo ]</p>
<strong> Please spare me the "then just buy a wintel machine" crap too. I love Apple, but doesn't mean I can't bitch!!</strong><hr></blockquote>
I am with you
<strong>So the sentence Also he mentioned that they might have some dual core feature or hypertreading in that one chip would operate like two." where as 2 800mhz would technically be a 1.6ghz doesn't please you either?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Your slow mac belongs in the trash!! <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
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I am with you</strong><hr></blockquote>
Then both of you buy Wintels!!
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I'm sorry you don't believe it, but that's what he said. Now like I said about the dual core thingy, I'm not too sure about that being a reality. OTOH, I think if you can get a good deal on an 800MHZ machine that would be pretty good and could hold you off till the G5's arrive sometime next year (or the 2nd Gen of the G5)
[ 01-09-2002: Message edited by: twinturbo ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
sorry but your statement that the G5 won't be out before next year makes the info completely unbelievable IMO.
1.) it will be out before next year
2.) why would an Apple rep no about next year's products?
it sounds so familiar to MWNY 1999. I asked an apple hardware engineer when to expect the G4/sawtooth. Next year. guess what. it came out a month after that.
<strong>... Usually Apple reps don't know shit about what they are talking about</strong><hr></blockquote>
Some of us know a lot about technology and current Apple products, but none of us know anything about Apple's future plans or directions. My NDA is clean because they have never told me anything.
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Some of us know a lot about technology and current Apple products, but none of us know anything about Apple's future plans or directions. My NDA is clean because they have never told me anything.</strong><hr></blockquote>
LOL. Well, I guess I fit in that boat too.
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Then both of you buy Wintels!!
Oh Yeah
PC next month and Mac in October
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Some of us know a lot about technology and current Apple products, but none of us know anything about Apple's future plans or directions. My NDA is clean because they have never told me anything.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Oops....hope I don't mislead anyone. When I said they don't know shit....that shit means Apple's future product and release dates.....
apology.....
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Oops....hope I don't mislead anyone. When I said they don't know shit....that shit means Apple's future product and release dates.....
apology.....</strong><hr></blockquote>
Accepted Leonis... And absolutely correct. If anyone posts inside information leaked by an Apple Rep you know it is bullshit. Of course even Apple Reps like to speculate... I'm just waiting for J.D. to get me drunk so he can pump me for information..
Is Wintel good? No, unless the world is flat. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
HEHE
Twinturbo has brought the most modest, resonable and most likely rumor to this forum I have ever heard.
I think we will see Apollo and low 1(1.1-1.2) Ghz Macs within the next six months, before MWNY. I think they will represent and incremental improvement in performance not a revolutionary increase.
I think the G5 Mac is an early to mid 2003 reality.
The Bottom line is that top of the line PPC will *never* match a top of the line x86 proc, *never*. The Mhz myth maybe a myth but x86 proc are getting faster, faster the PPC.
All the talk about pipelines and how the P4 has many more than the P3 disguises the fact that the old 500Mhz G4 had 4 stages and the new G4s have 7! The Mhz myth applies to Apple just as well!