New Screenshots of Jaguar 6C8x

ludwigvanludwigvan
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in macOS edited January 2014
<a href="http://www.thinksecret.com/"; target="_blank">Think Secret</a> has some more screen shots (some of which I haven't seen before) at their website. They can be found under the Jaguar article for July 9th.



[ 07-08-2002: Message edited by: LudwigVan ]</p>
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  • Reply 1 of 26
    cindercinder Posts: 381member
    Nifty.



    Comment #1



    Since the 'can copy' cursor is green . . . shouldn't the 'cannot copy' cursor be red?



    Yes, it should.



    #2 WHAT KINDA OF FREAKISH FREAK WOULD CHANGE THEIR DESKTOP PICTURE EVERY 5 SECONDS?!?

    <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />



    Ok, ok. That probably won't make it into the final . . . but still. Egad.
  • Reply 2 of 26
    the cool gutthe cool gut Posts: 1,714member
    First off ... there's no way I could stand my computer saying "hello" to me everytime at startup ... the "bong" is bad enough. Some at Apple should perhaps look for employment at Fisher Price.



    I hope with the caution sign, that icons stop have seizures when something is wrong ... that was just plain annoying.
  • Reply 3 of 26
    stroszekstroszek Posts: 801member
    [quote]Originally posted by the cool gut:

    <strong>First off ... there's no way I could stand my computer saying "hello" to me everytime at startup ... the "bong" is bad enough.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    But lots of people do. Have you never seen an AOL commercial? I don't think I've ever seen one that didn't have someone talking about how they just looove to hear "You've got mail!"

    :eek:
  • Reply 4 of 26
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    A new start-up chime is needed. The current choir of angels must be one of the longest running ones, no?



    Maybe when Apple gets around to surround sound in 5.1+ channels it could be surround sound!



    The "Hello" idea is good and bodes well for Apple. They are remembering the small things too. I always thought the Welcome to Macintosh message was a bit too strobe-like... This and these other new features will make OS X more fun and easier to use, as well as increasing day-to-day efficiency (for everyone, including grouches. The cool gut, you aren't Vulcan, by any chance, are you? )
  • Reply 5 of 26
    yurin8oryurin8or Posts: 120member
    [quote]Originally posted by cinder:

    <strong>Nifty.



    Comment #1



    Since the 'can copy' cursor is green . . . shouldn't the 'cannot copy' cursor be red?



    Yes, it should.



    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    I agree, it should be red and aquaish in a similar fasion to the copy icon...consistency damnit.
  • Reply 6 of 26
    graphitemangraphiteman Posts: 428member
    How can you not like the startup chime?!?!?!



    Also, the TS Sherlock screenshots seem to indicate that we can turn off the Metal look. Can anyone with recent Jaguar builds comment on this? I hope so - I hate the metal look!
  • Reply 7 of 26
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    [quote]Originally posted by Aquatik:

    <strong>A new start-up chime is needed. The current choir of angels must be one of the longest running ones, no?</strong><hr></blockquote>The chime is actually one of the few things still stored in ROM. So, you can only change it if you replace the motherboard or buy a new Mac. You can try the app <a href="http://members.shaw.ca/mactracker/"; target="_blank">Mactracker</a> to hear the various startup chimes for the different Macs. [quote]Originally posted by graphiteman:

    <strong>Can anyone with recent Jaguar builds comment on this? I hope so - I hate the metal look!</strong><hr></blockquote>You don't need Jaguar to turn it off -- just the developer tools (though Jaguar IS nice itself!). For example, take a look at what I did to my iPhoto app:







    Cool, huh?



    [ 07-09-2002: Message edited by: starfleetX ]</p>
  • Reply 8 of 26
    cindercinder Posts: 381member
    Apple definitely needs to dump that nasty "brushed" gradeschool-playground cement.
  • Reply 9 of 26
    graphitemangraphiteman Posts: 428member
    [quote]Originally posted by starfleetX:

    <strong>You don't need Jaguar to turn it off -- just the developer tools (though Jaguar IS nice itself!). For example, take a look at what I did to my iPhoto app:







    Cool, huh?



    [ 07-09-2002: Message edited by: starfleetX ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Not a problem...what do I need to do?
  • Reply 10 of 26
    evoevo Posts: 198member
    I wish Apple would just use brushed metal for media players (iTunes, QuickTime, etc) and apps imitating real-world devices (like Calculator). It just doesn't seem to fit on apps like Sherlock and iPhoto where you're trying to do work in them.
  • Reply 11 of 26
    mac the forkmac the fork Posts: 722member
    [quote]Not a problem...what do I need to do?<hr></blockquote>



    <a href="http://forums.macnn.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=46;t=007157"; target="_blank">http://forums.macnn.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=46;t=007157</a>;



    I don't have OS X, so I haven't looked into this. Maybe you'll be able to figure it out.
  • Reply 12 of 26
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    [quote]Originally posted by graphiteman:

    <strong>Not a problem...what do I need to do?</strong><hr></blockquote>I actually didn't even realize someone at MacNN had tried this too. I did this back around the WWDC after I saw that Rick (of Omni Group fame) said that the new brushed metal interface could be set in the nibs.



    Do this:



    * Open the ArchiveDocument.nib in the iPhoto package.

    * In the instances list, change to outline view instead of icon view

    * Click the disclosure triagle for CustomViewWindow (iPhoto) and then for NSView (Content View)

    * Select GradientTileView and open the Show Info window

    * In the Attributes section, change it to an NSView

    * Select the CustomViewWindow (iPhoto)

    * In the Info panel, go to the Custom Class section and select NSWindow. It will give a message saying it will break a connection. Click OK.

    * Delete the etchedtext "iPhoto" at the top.

    * Select the contents of the window and move it up. Resize the window accordingly.

    * Save.

    * Relaunch iPhoto now in Aqua mode!



    edit: added an important step I had accidentally left out.



    [ 07-10-2002: Message edited by: starfleetX ]</p>
  • Reply 13 of 26
    undotwaundotwa Posts: 97member
    [quote]Originally posted by eVo:

    <strong>I wish Apple would just use brushed metal for media players (iTunes, QuickTime, etc) and apps imitating real-world devices (like Calculator). It just doesn't seem to fit on apps like Sherlock and iPhoto where you're trying to do work in them.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Well iPhoto really does emulate a real world object - A Photo Album.



    Notice that in the latest Jaguar builds, Sherlock is fully Aquaised!
  • Reply 14 of 26
    agent302agent302 Posts: 974member
    [quote]Originally posted by starfleetX:

    <strong>edit: added an important step I had accidentally left out.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I was wondering why when I did what you originally said, the only thing that became Aqua was the Title Bar to the window...
  • Reply 15 of 26
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    [quote]Originally posted by eVo:

    <strong>I wish Apple would just use brushed metal for media players (iTunes, QuickTime, etc) and apps imitating real-world devices (like Calculator). It just doesn't seem to fit on apps like Sherlock and iPhoto where you're trying to do work in them.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I think what the brushed-metal is supposed to indicate is that the app is contained primarily on one window. Unlike, say, AppleWorks, you're not opening lots of document windows in FCP or iMovie or Sherlock, and when you do have multiple windows (e.g. multiple QT movies, or possibly multiple Sherlock searches) there is no use for something like a toolbar or floating pallette that can apply to any of them - each has controls built into the window that act specifically on the associated content.



    That was a really concise, articulate description , but I hope it got the idea across.
  • Reply 16 of 26
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    [quote]I think what the brushed-metal is supposed to indicate is that the app is contained primarily on one window.<hr></blockquote>



    If that is the case, then Apple UI designers have turned into morons.
  • Reply 17 of 26
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    iChat is brushed metal. iChat opens one window per chat. iChat opens a separate window for Rendezvous buddies. Amorph, sorry, your theory doesn't really hold up.
  • Reply 18 of 26
    colorclassicg4colorclassicg4 Posts: 224member
    [quote]Originally posted by the cool gut:

    <strong>Some at Apple should perhaps look for employment at Fisher Price.</strong><hr></blockquote>





    Have you seen Windows XP's color scheme? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
  • Reply 19 of 26
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    Apple does need to codify the use of the brushed metal appearance in their HI guidelines. I think that they're supposed to be the basic media apps. I suppose you could ask why the address book will be brushed metal and why Mail isn't but iChat is. Answer is: I don't know.



    I guess that makes Apple's UI designers as moronic as their Windows peers.
  • Reply 20 of 26
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    [quote]Originally posted by Eugene:

    <strong>iChat is brushed metal. iChat opens one window per chat. iChat opens a separate window for Rendezvous buddies. Amorph, sorry, your theory doesn't really hold up. </strong><hr></blockquote>



    What, you mean Apple engineers aren't hanging on my every word?



    Damn. I'm going to have to fly out there and twist a few arms.



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