They really shouldn't rely on the iPhone for their business just yet. The software is still horrible. I'm getting tired of restoring my phone every other day so I'm hoping that I just received a defective phone and I'm heading to the bar tonight to get it replaced. I could never recommend the iPhone to a company that relies on their smartphones for business. If it were later on in the game when Apple hopefully fixes the bugs and instability... sure. But not now.
Purely out of curiosity, are you running blessed iPhone and apps, or are you running jailbroken apps?
I've never heard anything close to your description. May very well be a flawed unit.
Until Apple offers an extend battery I do not believe that enterprise will be happy with the iPhone 3G. This is not a criticism, it's based upon experience.
Really -can't you see all the IS departments having to mail back iPhones to Apple to replace their worn down batteries?
Seriously, I mean those guys that depend on their crackberries for work are using them literally all day and night.
LOL all you like (I doubt you are laughing out loud however), I know plenty of BB users who won't even consider an iPhone due to the lack of tactile keyboard. Apple may have to take those people seriously if it want to replace Blackberries.
Companies are starting to move beyond just email for the mobile user; not to browser-based apps, but to their own customized apps that use the Internet for information access. For that, the combination of a great UI, app development tools, and app deployment mechanism will be a huge advantage.
BINGO! That's it in a nutshell. Every enterprise, especially the larger ones, will be able to design its own iApp to suit its particular needs.
LOL all you like (I doubt you are laughing out loud however), I know plenty of BB users who won't even consider an iPhone due to the lack of tactile keyboard. Apple may have to take those people seriously if it want to replace Blackberries.
It just occurred to me- if you're blind how do you use an iPhone? with a keyboard there is no problem
Won't that lack of a feature disciminate and violate ADA in the workplace? Is this one more strike against the iPhone?
It just occurred to me- if you're blind how do you use an iPhone? with a keyboard there is no problem
Won't that lack of a feature disciminate and violate ADA in the workplace? Is this one more strike against the iPhone?
Can blind people use a Blackberry? Being able to see the screen is pretty important when using a Blackberry, they don't have any accessibility features (such as speaking menu items) do they?
It just occurred to me- if you're blind how do you use an iPhone? with a keyboard there is no problem
Won't that lack of a feature disciminate and violate ADA in the workplace? Is this one more strike against the iPhone?
If one were to ask that to a blind person, I bet one would find out pretty quick that only a dumb person would be dumb enough to ask question in the first place.
If one were to ask that to a blind person, I bet one would find out pretty quick that only a dumb person would be dumb enough to ask question in the first place.
That's not a dumb question but that's a dumb-assed reply.
How do you make a phone call with a smooth screen? Unless there are braille stickies for the iPhone - it won't do.
The iPhone is not perfect. Other phones have certain legitimate advantages.
What many forget, is that:
* No OTHER phone is perfect.
* The iPhone has its OWN advantages.
Thus, while many like to suggest that "avoid the iPhone" is the only rational choice, it's actually more complicated than that. It can actually make SENSE to choose an iPhone. And those who fear for HSBC's well-being need not worry: I don't think HSBC is taking such a decision lightly. They're probably even smart enough to know that the iPhone keeps getting updates--so they can wait-and-see what improvements come in the months ahead.
Whether they ultimately choose BlackBerry or iPhone, I see no cause yet to doubt that their reasons will be sensible.
I agree but. My only hope is this. That due to the mass size
Of this sale and if it's a success future business it will bring that maybe it will force apple to add the necessary features such as cut/paste and mms and unlock all possible Bluetooth features. If this happens I will be a very happy camper
Having shared this tid-bit with a friend he suggested another alternative: they're just positioning to get a better deal from RIM. This is certainly plausible.
The largest drawback to using the iPhone in this type of environment is the lack of Full data Encryption. Blackberry supports this, iPhone does not. Honestly without this feature, HSBC would be unwise to adopt the phone in any capacity. When you deal with large amounts of money, the last thing you want is bank data (anything from customer info to IT network info) stored in clear text. For the record, I work for a bank, and security is everything here. If you don't take it seriously, you might as well paint a target on yourself.
mmmm, I love the iphone but it's not ready for prime time. There's to many problems. I was lucky to get one for free, I love what it does but it's buggy, no removable battery, and the hardware goes. I'm on my 5th phone already. My wife has a blackberry and the thing just works. The iphone has a better screen but I'm always fighting with it.
I agree but. My only hope is this. That due to the mass size
Of this sale and if it's a success future business it will bring that maybe it will force apple to add the necessary features such as cut/paste and mms and unlock all possible Bluetooth features. If this happens I will be a very happy camper
Those all seem inevitable in the end (unless AT&T has some issue with MMS that I can't comprehend). The question is when, and enterprise interest could indeed push some things along faster. Especially the first two. Apple's already commented (vaguely) about adding the BIG one I want: cut and paste.
(I'd also love tethering, but AT&T won't give it away for free and I won't pay what it costs!)
What kind of banking outfit needs a 10% IT force for crissakes? That sounds like the IT group ought to be a profit center somehow. Or is it that 1 tech supports only 10 people because they're stuck on Vista? I can imagine each tech starting out his workday by paying office visits to each of his ten clients. "OK, stick out your tongue...oh-oh, you've got a nasty virus there...let me reload the OS and call me in the morning..."
OK, so I'm stretching it but even if you consider that of the 30,000 tech support group half are management, that still leaves each true tech a client base of only 20 people. Sounds like a nice little fiefdom has been created and grown.
What kind of banking outfit needs a 10% IT force for crissakes? That sounds like the IT group ought to be a profit center somehow. Or is it that 1 tech supports only 10 people because they're stuck on Vista? I can imagine each tech starting out his workday by paying office visits to each of his ten clients. "OK, stick out your tongue...oh-oh, you've got a nasty virus there...let me reload the OS and call me in the morning..."
OK, so I'm stretching it but even if you consider that of the 30,000 tech support group half are management, that still leaves each true tech a client base of only 20 people. Sounds like a nice little fiefdom has been created and grown.
Perhaps a little due diligence would be in order before one sounds off would have been in order.
HSBC is an big bank. Extremely big. Its 330,000 employees are scattered in over 5,000 offices in nearly 80 countries around the world.
And looking at its portfolio, it is obvious that their technical team just doesn't look after a few computers and cell phones.
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They really shouldn't rely on the iPhone for their business just yet. The software is still horrible. I'm getting tired of restoring my phone every other day so I'm hoping that I just received a defective phone and I'm heading to the bar tonight to get it replaced. I could never recommend the iPhone to a company that relies on their smartphones for business. If it were later on in the game when Apple hopefully fixes the bugs and instability... sure. But not now.
Purely out of curiosity, are you running blessed iPhone and apps, or are you running jailbroken apps?
I've never heard anything close to your description. May very well be a flawed unit.
Until Apple offers an extend battery I do not believe that enterprise will be happy with the iPhone 3G. This is not a criticism, it's based upon experience.
Really -can't you see all the IS departments having to mail back iPhones to Apple to replace their worn down batteries?
Seriously, I mean those guys that depend on their crackberries for work are using them literally all day and night.
a keyboard, lol
LOL all you like (I doubt you are laughing out loud however), I know plenty of BB users who won't even consider an iPhone due to the lack of tactile keyboard. Apple may have to take those people seriously if it want to replace Blackberries.
Companies are starting to move beyond just email for the mobile user; not to browser-based apps, but to their own customized apps that use the Internet for information access. For that, the combination of a great UI, app development tools, and app deployment mechanism will be a huge advantage.
BINGO! That's it in a nutshell. Every enterprise, especially the larger ones, will be able to design its own iApp to suit its particular needs.
LOL all you like (I doubt you are laughing out loud however), I know plenty of BB users who won't even consider an iPhone due to the lack of tactile keyboard. Apple may have to take those people seriously if it want to replace Blackberries.
It just occurred to me- if you're blind how do you use an iPhone? with a keyboard there is no problem
Won't that lack of a feature disciminate and violate ADA in the workplace? Is this one more strike against the iPhone?
It just occurred to me- if you're blind how do you use an iPhone? with a keyboard there is no problem
Won't that lack of a feature disciminate and violate ADA in the workplace? Is this one more strike against the iPhone?
Can blind people use a Blackberry? Being able to see the screen is pretty important when using a Blackberry, they don't have any accessibility features (such as speaking menu items) do they?
It just occurred to me- if you're blind how do you use an iPhone? with a keyboard there is no problem
Won't that lack of a feature disciminate and violate ADA in the workplace? Is this one more strike against the iPhone?
If one were to ask that to a blind person, I bet one would find out pretty quick that only a dumb person would be dumb enough to ask question in the first place.
It just occurred to me- if you're blind how do you use an iPhone? with a keyboard there is no problem
Won't that lack of a feature disciminate and violate ADA in the workplace? Is this one more strike against the iPhone?
It seems inside time is over.
Give the keyboard back to your mommy and go back outside to play.
If one were to ask that to a blind person, I bet one would find out pretty quick that only a dumb person would be dumb enough to ask question in the first place.
That's not a dumb question but that's a dumb-assed reply.
How do you make a phone call with a smooth screen? Unless there are braille stickies for the iPhone - it won't do.
Is the voice recognition limited.
It seems inside time is over.
Give the keyboard back to your mommy and go back outside to play.
Oh- you are just soo insulting.
Did I strike a nerve in you?
It just occurred to me- if you're blind how do you use an iPhone? with a keyboard there is no problem
Won't that lack of a feature disciminate and violate ADA in the workplace? Is this one more strike against the iPhone?
I'd be QUITE impressed to see a blind person using a BB with 40 tiny keys on it.
The iPhone is not perfect. Other phones have certain legitimate advantages.
What many forget, is that:
* No OTHER phone is perfect.
* The iPhone has its OWN advantages.
Thus, while many like to suggest that "avoid the iPhone" is the only rational choice, it's actually more complicated than that. It can actually make SENSE to choose an iPhone. And those who fear for HSBC's well-being need not worry: I don't think HSBC is taking such a decision lightly. They're probably even smart enough to know that the iPhone keeps getting updates--so they can wait-and-see what improvements come in the months ahead.
Whether they ultimately choose BlackBerry or iPhone, I see no cause yet to doubt that their reasons will be sensible.
I agree but. My only hope is this. That due to the mass size
Of this sale and if it's a success future business it will bring that maybe it will force apple to add the necessary features such as cut/paste and mms and unlock all possible Bluetooth features. If this happens I will be a very happy camper
"another high profile enterprise level firm"???
Names please- back up - thank you.
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I'd be QUITE impressed to see a blind person using a BB with 40 tiny keys on it.
lol, Damn, and all this time I have been wondering how to get rid of my crappy Razr - think I'll sue 'cause it is not ADA compliant!!!!!
I agree but. My only hope is this. That due to the mass size
Of this sale and if it's a success future business it will bring that maybe it will force apple to add the necessary features such as cut/paste and mms and unlock all possible Bluetooth features. If this happens I will be a very happy camper
Those all seem inevitable in the end (unless AT&T has some issue with MMS that I can't comprehend). The question is when, and enterprise interest could indeed push some things along faster. Especially the first two. Apple's already commented (vaguely) about adding the BIG one I want: cut and paste.
(I'd also love tethering, but AT&T won't give it away for free and I won't pay what it costs!)
OK, so I'm stretching it but even if you consider that of the 30,000 tech support group half are management, that still leaves each true tech a client base of only 20 people. Sounds like a nice little fiefdom has been created and grown.
What kind of banking outfit needs a 10% IT force for crissakes? That sounds like the IT group ought to be a profit center somehow. Or is it that 1 tech supports only 10 people because they're stuck on Vista? I can imagine each tech starting out his workday by paying office visits to each of his ten clients. "OK, stick out your tongue...oh-oh, you've got a nasty virus there...let me reload the OS and call me in the morning..."
OK, so I'm stretching it but even if you consider that of the 30,000 tech support group half are management, that still leaves each true tech a client base of only 20 people. Sounds like a nice little fiefdom has been created and grown.
Perhaps a little due diligence would be in order before one sounds off would have been in order.
HSBC is an big bank. Extremely big. Its 330,000 employees are scattered in over 5,000 offices in nearly 80 countries around the world.
And looking at its portfolio, it is obvious that their technical team just doesn't look after a few computers and cell phones.