well speaking as someone who uses Photoshop I think it would be pretty easy to take an existing nano pic and fake that picture.
The question is: is the picture fake or is the product a fake?
I think both - it's not the new nano, and it's been through photoshop to make us think it is.
Please be clearer which one you're talking about, a discussion doesn't work if everyone is focused on different things. If you mean the green one, then please say that. I do agree the green one can be easily faked.
Please be clearer which one you're talking about, a discussion doesn't work if everyone is focused on different things. If you mean the green one, then please say that. I do agree the green one can be easily faked.
OK I think the Orange was is a real photo of a real product that's been photoshopped a bit to stretch the screen a bit so it fits with the other leaks about new nano cases. It's probably a cheap chinese MP4 player put in a nano box.
The green one is a quick photoshop fake, this time using a real nano pic.
If you look at the bottom of the orange 'nano' there seems to be what I'd call "rubber stamp
Why blurry? - because not all camera phones have autofocus. Also, the circumstances could have been that the photographer had very little time in which to take the photo without being noticed so it was a hurried shot.
Plus the auto focus focused on the packaging not the nano.
well speaking as someone who uses Photoshop I think it would be pretty easy to take an existing nano pic and fake that picture.
Then put your 'professional skills where your mouth is and produce an equivalent fake - you know, a product with curved surfaces inside a transparent plastic box. You said it was easy, so it shouldn't take long for a professional Photoshop user such as yourself.
Then put your 'professional skills where your mouth is and produce an equivalent fake - you know, a product with curved surfaces inside a transparent plastic box. You said it was easy, so it shouldn't take long for a professional Photoshop user such as yourself.
The curved screen is a red herring.
Apple wouldn't make a nano with a curved screen.
What Apple would make is a nano with a curved back and flat front, just like the iPhone 3G.
This alone makes the photo a fake.
There are enough artifacts in the (orange) picture to point to photoshopping:
The edges of the screen are ragged where the curve has been introduced - look at the bottom of the screen a 1/4 way in from the left. There's a bump.
All the way up the screen on the left and right is further evidence of cloning, giving a ragged bumpy edge.
The screen is also too dark. It's been darkened to hide the re-touching, as shown by the highlights that also get darker on the screen.
I'm not at work at the moment or I would produce another fake for you - but surely this one is enough?
This is a world where absolute statements just don't apply. For example, people also said that Apple wouldn't make the "fatboy" nano, because it was ugly and the shots looked fake. The same thing happened with the leaked aluminum keyboard photos. This particular one might not pan out, but it's a bit quick to completely dismiss it.
This "curved nano" photo might be based on a real competing product, but I haven't found one yet.
BTW... The MacBook Air enters its 9th month without an update. Will it be the Cinema Display of the laptop line??? W.T.F.
It certainly does. I have recently been schooled in that the 35mm^2 Cetnrino 2 chips are being sold, but this carry over to the 22mm^2 chips too? If so, then I'd expect the MBA to be updated very, very soon. While popular for its class it doesn't have the demand of Apple's other notebooks so production issues with chips shouldn't be an issue here.
BTW, there are going to be a lot of upset and angry people when they find out that the MBA will be updated from a 1.6 and 1.8GHz CPU to the 1.6 and 183GHz CPU, SL9300 and SL9400 respectively.. Sure, it'll go from SFF Santa Rosa/Merom to Montevina/Penryn with a whole set of more efficient instruction on a 45nm platform with 1066MHz FSB and 6MB L2, better integrated graphics and a drop in TPD from 20 to 17W... but most people only seem to look at the CPU speed. I can't blame them. It was pushed so hard for so many years as the end all be all for processors.
This is a world where absolute statements just don't apply. For example, people also said that Apple wouldn't make the "fatboy" nano, because it was ugly and the shots looked fake.
That is absolutely correct. The mockups never do Apple justice. then again, we aren't making multiple products to test out among a team of people. Look back on last year and seeing that capacity bumps in most of the line seem unlikely Apple will need a new product to spark interest this holiday quarter. I have no idea what it can be and doubt that a Nano change is the big reveal this time around.
Will Apple immediately pull the 3rd generation nano from the online store when the new nano is released? I can't remember how they transition their products. If I don't like the new one I want to buy the phatty.
Will Apple immediately pull the 3rd generation nano from the online store when the new nano is released? I can't remember how they transition their products. If I don't like the new one I want to buy the phatty.
If I recall correctly the previous years in which the new products came out before the BtS program ended, they put the new iPods out in place of the old ones, but had the old ones in the back for the program for the next week. I don't recall them keeping any of the old iPods out on display in the front of the store or offering a reduced price for the old generation iPods on their website until some weeks after.
You will be certainly be able to get a 3G Nano directly from Apple, with full warranty, and at a reduced cost than it's being sold now if you just wait a bit.
Check out Click Here for the photo without the blur. Looks pretty nice to me
When I looked at the linked photo you post, I noticed that the usb wire showned there is like the old designs with buttons on the side to unlock it from the device... I have an iPod Touch and the universal plug is small and easily removable, not like the old ones...
I don't think Apple will start making products with an old design... seems not bogus to me.
Will Apple immediately pull the 3rd generation nano from the online store when the new nano is released? I can't remember how they transition their products. If I don't like the new one I want to buy the phatty.
They move them to the clearance section of the online store, with the price dropped a little bit compared to the same capacity of the new one.
Those clickwheels look like that are poorly glued on pieces of paper. I think Apple has too much pride to do another 'candy bar' Nano that is similar to the Zune Flash and those knockoffs. We'll know in 43 hours.
This one is the nicest mock up I've seen that seems to evolve the Nano, though I think it needs a physical center button for tactile response. This would help you find the clickwheel when not looking at it.
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No you don't. Your ignorant first post about how 'easy' it would be to fake the photo of the orange nano betrays that ignorance.
well speaking as someone who uses Photoshop I think it would be pretty easy to take an existing nano pic and fake that picture.
The question is: is the picture fake or is the product a fake?
I think both - it's not the new nano, and it's been through photoshop to make us think it is.
y
what do you see in the blue channel? I couldn't find anything
just a reference to a previous 'ahem' fake.
just a reference to a previous 'ahem' fake.
well speaking as someone who uses Photoshop I think it would be pretty easy to take an existing nano pic and fake that picture.
The question is: is the picture fake or is the product a fake?
I think both - it's not the new nano, and it's been through photoshop to make us think it is.
Please be clearer which one you're talking about, a discussion doesn't work if everyone is focused on different things. If you mean the green one, then please say that. I do agree the green one can be easily faked.
Please be clearer which one you're talking about, a discussion doesn't work if everyone is focused on different things. If you mean the green one, then please say that. I do agree the green one can be easily faked.
OK I think the Orange was is a real photo of a real product that's been photoshopped a bit to stretch the screen a bit so it fits with the other leaks about new nano cases. It's probably a cheap chinese MP4 player put in a nano box.
The green one is a quick photoshop fake, this time using a real nano pic.
If you look at the bottom of the orange 'nano' there seems to be what I'd call "rubber stamp
duplication."
Why blurry? - because not all camera phones have autofocus. Also, the circumstances could have been that the photographer had very little time in which to take the photo without being noticed so it was a hurried shot.
Plus the auto focus focused on the packaging not the nano.
well speaking as someone who uses Photoshop I think it would be pretty easy to take an existing nano pic and fake that picture.
Then put your 'professional skills where your mouth is and produce an equivalent fake - you know, a product with curved surfaces inside a transparent plastic box. You said it was easy, so it shouldn't take long for a professional Photoshop user such as yourself.
Then put your 'professional skills where your mouth is and produce an equivalent fake - you know, a product with curved surfaces inside a transparent plastic box. You said it was easy, so it shouldn't take long for a professional Photoshop user such as yourself.
The curved screen is a red herring.
Apple wouldn't make a nano with a curved screen.
What Apple would make is a nano with a curved back and flat front, just like the iPhone 3G.
This alone makes the photo a fake.
There are enough artifacts in the (orange) picture to point to photoshopping:
The edges of the screen are ragged where the curve has been introduced - look at the bottom of the screen a 1/4 way in from the left. There's a bump.
All the way up the screen on the left and right is further evidence of cloning, giving a ragged bumpy edge.
The screen is also too dark. It's been darkened to hide the re-touching, as shown by the highlights that also get darker on the screen.
I'm not at work at the moment or I would produce another fake for you - but surely this one is enough?
This is a fake, don't fall for it.
Check back here on Tuesday for my 'told you so'
The curved screen is a red herring.
Apple wouldn't make a nano with a curved screen.
This is a world where absolute statements just don't apply. For example, people also said that Apple wouldn't make the "fatboy" nano, because it was ugly and the shots looked fake. The same thing happened with the leaked aluminum keyboard photos. This particular one might not pan out, but it's a bit quick to completely dismiss it.
This "curved nano" photo might be based on a real competing product, but I haven't found one yet.
BTW... The MacBook Air enters its 9th month without an update. Will it be the Cinema Display of the laptop line???
It certainly does. I have recently been schooled in that the 35mm^2 Cetnrino 2 chips are being sold, but this carry over to the 22mm^2 chips too? If so, then I'd expect the MBA to be updated very, very soon. While popular for its class it doesn't have the demand of Apple's other notebooks so production issues with chips shouldn't be an issue here.
BTW, there are going to be a lot of upset and angry people when they find out that the MBA will be updated from a 1.6 and 1.8GHz CPU to the 1.6 and 183GHz CPU, SL9300 and SL9400 respectively.. Sure, it'll go from SFF Santa Rosa/Merom to Montevina/Penryn with a whole set of more efficient instruction on a 45nm platform with 1066MHz FSB and 6MB L2, better integrated graphics and a drop in TPD from 20 to 17W... but most people only seem to look at the CPU speed. I can't blame them. It was pushed so hard for so many years as the end all be all for processors.
This is a world where absolute statements just don't apply. For example, people also said that Apple wouldn't make the "fatboy" nano, because it was ugly and the shots looked fake.
That is absolutely correct. The mockups never do Apple justice. then again, we aren't making multiple products to test out among a team of people. Look back on last year and seeing that capacity bumps in most of the line seem unlikely Apple will need a new product to spark interest this holiday quarter. I have no idea what it can be and doubt that a Nano change is the big reveal this time around.
This takes the same basic design, and expands the screen to its largest possible size. I like it.
Will Apple immediately pull the 3rd generation nano from the online store when the new nano is released? I can't remember how they transition their products. If I don't like the new one I want to buy the phatty.
If I recall correctly the previous years in which the new products came out before the BtS program ended, they put the new iPods out in place of the old ones, but had the old ones in the back for the program for the next week. I don't recall them keeping any of the old iPods out on display in the front of the store or offering a reduced price for the old generation iPods on their website until some weeks after.
You will be certainly be able to get a 3G Nano directly from Apple, with full warranty, and at a reduced cost than it's being sold now if you just wait a bit.
Check out Click Here for the photo without the blur. Looks pretty nice to me
When I looked at the linked photo you post, I noticed that the usb wire showned there is like the old designs with buttons on the side to unlock it from the device... I have an iPod Touch and the universal plug is small and easily removable, not like the old ones...
I don't think Apple will start making products with an old design... seems not bogus to me.
Simon
Will Apple immediately pull the 3rd generation nano from the online store when the new nano is released? I can't remember how they transition their products. If I don't like the new one I want to buy the phatty.
They move them to the clearance section of the online store, with the price dropped a little bit compared to the same capacity of the new one.
Philibot
Check back here on Tuesday for my 'told you so'
Ok - but the argument here is: is this a genuine picture or not?
I say not.
There are hundreds of rip-offs out there:
http://www.gshop.com.au/images/pink.JPG
there's no way Apple would bring out a new product that had already been so badly imitated.
http://www.if-wholesale.co.uk/catalo...LEM01_alt4.jpg
http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2006/10.../MP4Player.jpg
http://www.chinawholesalegift.com/pi...0584911847.jpg
http://www.asia-product.com/images/nanonew.jpg
http://www.fabtech.net/WERV161PICS10.JPG
OMG - there is some real junk around:
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Those clickwheels look like that are poorly glued on pieces of paper. I think Apple has too much pride to do another 'candy bar' Nano that is similar to the Zune Flash and those knockoffs. We'll know in 43 hours.
This one is the nicest mock up I've seen that seems to evolve the Nano, though I think it needs a physical center button for tactile response. This would help you find the clickwheel when not looking at it.