Jaguar on new powerbook
I'm not sure if this question has already been answered, but i can't seem to find the answer on any websites. If i order a new powerbook on Jaguar release date this Friday, is it guaranteed to come with Jag or am i going to have to pay for an upgrade no matter what? I figured if the new powermacs had it pre-installed the least they can do with new orders is give a disk
many thanks
many thanks
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But no promises.
[ 08-21-2002: Message edited by: Brad ]</p>
I know that 32MB vid cards liek NVDIA are required for Quartz Extreme but generally curious to know if 8MB is going to a serious hinderance.
cheers
Remember, even *without* Quartz Extreme, 10.2 Jaguar brings several speed boosts and optimizations to Mac OS X. 10.2 runs better than 10.1, yes, even without Quartz Extreme.
[ 08-21-2002: Message edited by: Eugene ]</p>
I order a 14" iBook on Sunday. Pretty sure it will come with Jaguar. Probably just on CD, but maybe preinstalled.
<strong>Have you tried running Mac OS X on it at all?
Remember, even *without* Quartz Extreme, 10.2 Jaguar brings several speed boosts and optimizations to Mac OS X. 10.2 runs better than 10.1, yes, even without Quartz Extreme.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Thx. Yes I have OS X 10.1 on it. It probably lies in my misunderstanding of Quartz Extreme. If it performs better than 10.1 (which is should) and only effects apps that take advantage of Quartz Extreme, than I am looking forward to upgrading on the PowerBook (w/8MB).
Thx!
<strong>if I have an original TiBook 500 with 8MB ATI Video card, will I be able to run jaguar on it with decent performance? (except for quartz extreme apps). 384RAM.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm using 10.2 on my TiBook 500 with 512 MB of RAM. Works fantastic! It's a very, very good OS upgrade. You might wanna up your RAM, but you won't be disappointed by Jaguar.
QE doesn't work, as you mentioned, but graphics performance is good, anyway.
< as i noted in another thread, when asked about QE on the 700Mhz iBook Radeon 16Mb VRAM, apple jag guy thought that QE explicitly wasn't supported on any iBook and added the other apple demofolk "didn't we show a slide with fine print on that?" >
< mind you, these same guys were all crowding around the <a href="http://www.macparts.de/ibook" target="_blank">www.macparts.de/ibook</a> page i showed them on unsupported monitor spanning with same ibook in os9, so maybe the official and undocumented differ>
back to the point
QE offloads compositing (of windows, QT/DVD, web, GUI, etc) from the CPU onto the GPU on said AGP 2x 16Mb VRAM graphics card.
graphic performance (including basic screen redraw at all levels) will go up if running QE, but QE isn't necessary for Jaguar, per se
Jag on a machine that can't handle the QE will handle graphics just as it did before QE. just won't seem as zippy as the full jag+QE (especially on one of the new duals where multithreading adds extra cpu to take even better use of those cycles)
< this from a demo from a guy on the jag team for the last two months >
incidentally, he seemed to suggest that the programming team was expecting to get to 6C117 or 118 (with apache/sec update patches and more driver support) before going GM, but that Steve himself had appeared and spake "enough... shippeth it" or words to that effect
he also suggested 10.2.1 will appear within 3 weeks
[ 08-21-2002: Message edited by: curiousuburb ]</p>
Thanks again
<strong>
I'm using 10.2 on my TiBook 500 with 512 MB of RAM. Works fantastic! It's a very, very good OS upgrade. You might wanna up your RAM, but you won't be disappointed by Jaguar.
QE doesn't work, as you mentioned, but graphics performance is good, anyway.</strong><hr></blockquote>
thank fryke,
hope all is well in switzerland!