Who cares about the Beattles, there are bigger problems in the world to deal with. If you want to get Beattles music on your ipod, there are ways to do it, besides the only song of theirs I liked is Hey Jude.
That's a good song -- until the shrieking at the end!
I think what iTunes needs/wants is the clout that the Beatles songbook gives them. Once again it pulls them a little step farther ahead than any of the other download services. Led Zepplin wouldn't hurt either...
I would LOVE to see Led Zep on iTunes. That would rock beyond words.
I think it highly unlikely that apple would go that route. Why would apple want all the baggage that would come from buying an existing label when they have the power, cash and distribution necessary to start their own label?
I think that's a last resort. I can't really explain it, from my vague impressions, I don't see the necessary chances in the record industry happening with the current major labels. Even Apple might not be able to do it if they owned a label. One specific thing I would like to see is globalized distribution rights. Right now, distribution is sold off or otherwise broken down by country, so each digital distributor has to make separate negotiations for each country.
One major problem with owning a label is that Apple would be a competitor, and I think that would make it harder to make deals.
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Originally Posted by nace33
I could care less.
So you do care?
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Originally Posted by elroth
The fact that you have the songs shows they are not forgotten. I think you'll be surprised at how many people will buy the Beatles on iTunes once they're available. It's easy to criticize and make blanket statements, but it's a lot bigger world than you seem to think.
I think you missed the point by misinterpreting the statements. The problem being highlighted is that most of the people that do care already have the music imported into iTunes, be it legally or illegally. I don't doubt that there will be plenty of sales, but I think they could have gotten a lot more if their music was allowed to be sold five years ago.
You all seem to have missed the point to this story.
The hold up is nothing to do with Apple Computer.
The negotiations are currently stuck between the Beatles own company Apple Corp and EMI who own the rights to the Beatles recordings. Once they agree to the terms Apple Computer will simply publish the music on the EMI terms they already have in place.
My guess is that Apple Corp (Beatles) does not want the music to be DRM free (iTunes Plus) but EMI probably does as that is the preferred route they use with iTunes now.
Don't blame Apple Computer for this delay, it is not down to them this time!
Why are so many dismissing the relevance of the Beatles? The Beatles catalog was never remastered for CD, but that's been going on behind the scenes over the last several years. When the albums are reissued, along side the new Rock Band game and iTunes access, the Beatles will shoot to the top of the charts. We'll see yet another wave of Beatlemania, and a whole new generation of fans. Do not underestimate the power of their music.
You all seem to have missed the point to this story.
The hold up is nothing to do with Apple Computer.
The negotiations are currently stuck between the Beatles own company Apple Corp and EMI who own the rights to the Beatles recordings. Once they agree to the terms Apple Computer will simply publish the music on the EMI terms they already have in place.
My guess is that Apple Corp (Beatles) does not want the music to be DRM free (iTunes Plus) but EMI probably does as that is the preferred route they use with iTunes now.
Don't blame Apple Computer for this delay, it is not down to them this time!
Thank you Parky, for reading this article correctly.
The current disagreement has nothing to do with Apple (computers) so all those snarky comments directed at Jobs and the iPod maker are a bit silly.
Who cares? Anyone who does, isn't waiting for iTunes. Those that want Beatles on their iPods already got the music somewhere else.
Yup. I advised someone on the best way to convert CDs (bitrate, album covers, etc.) after which he went to the library, borrowed all their Beatles CDs and ripped them all to 160kbps DRM-free AAC files he can play on many devices. They snooze, they lose.
Apple getting the Beatles on iTunes will be the "Jump the Shark Moment" for digital music. It is that moment that will be latched onto by the press to come to symbolize the rise to prominence of digital content.
For most of us "technologically savvy" people it's not a big deal. For the media and mainstream it's going to hold the same significance as colour TV surpassing B/W. It will signify to regular people that Digital Content is here to stay. That the real significance.
You already know it. I know it. But regular people need symbols and this will be a big one.
Why are so many dismissing the relevance of the Beatles?.
This "will it wont it" story has been going on for ages. I think people were originally looking forward to having the beatles on itunes, but it's turned into such a bore that many would rather they simply buggerd off altogether.
Led Zeppelin has been on iTunes for several months now, try looking once in awhile.
Damn, YOU are right!
I hate that
Actually I did an iTunes search as I wrote the response on "zepplin" and it just returned all the crap cover songs. As they say on XM "only the song retains the name" - cute!
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Yeah, a NIN iPhone would be cool, I guess, but I'm holding out for a Bo Donaldson and the Heywoods version!
Who cares about the Beattles, there are bigger problems in the world to deal with. If you want to get Beattles music on your ipod, there are ways to do it, besides the only song of theirs I liked is Hey Jude.
That's a good song -- until the shrieking at the end!
The Beatles' entire catalog has been available in a DRM-free, lossless digital audio form for 20 years now. They're called "CDs".
Ah yes, I've heard tell of those 'ceedees' you mention. They're from a fascinating and prehistoric time, the reports say.
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I think what iTunes needs/wants is the clout that the Beatles songbook gives them. Once again it pulls them a little step farther ahead than any of the other download services. Led Zepplin wouldn't hurt either...
I would LOVE to see Led Zep on iTunes. That would rock beyond words.
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I think it highly unlikely that apple would go that route. Why would apple want all the baggage that would come from buying an existing label when they have the power, cash and distribution necessary to start their own label?
I think that's a last resort. I can't really explain it, from my vague impressions, I don't see the necessary chances in the record industry happening with the current major labels. Even Apple might not be able to do it if they owned a label. One specific thing I would like to see is globalized distribution rights. Right now, distribution is sold off or otherwise broken down by country, so each digital distributor has to make separate negotiations for each country.
One major problem with owning a label is that Apple would be a competitor, and I think that would make it harder to make deals.
I could care less.
So you do care?
The fact that you have the songs shows they are not forgotten. I think you'll be surprised at how many people will buy the Beatles on iTunes once they're available. It's easy to criticize and make blanket statements, but it's a lot bigger world than you seem to think.
I think you missed the point by misinterpreting the statements. The problem being highlighted is that most of the people that do care already have the music imported into iTunes, be it legally or illegally. I don't doubt that there will be plenty of sales, but I think they could have gotten a lot more if their music was allowed to be sold five years ago.
but Paul was the bassist, not the guitarist.
Just sayin.
He played the "bass guitar."
The hold up is nothing to do with Apple Computer.
The negotiations are currently stuck between the Beatles own company Apple Corp and EMI who own the rights to the Beatles recordings. Once they agree to the terms Apple Computer will simply publish the music on the EMI terms they already have in place.
My guess is that Apple Corp (Beatles) does not want the music to be DRM free (iTunes Plus) but EMI probably does as that is the preferred route they use with iTunes now.
Don't blame Apple Computer for this delay, it is not down to them this time!
I would LOVE to see Led Zep on iTunes. That would rock beyond words.
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Led Zeppelin has been on iTunes for several months now, try looking once in awhile.
AppleCare.
Oh do shut up
You all seem to have missed the point to this story.
The hold up is nothing to do with Apple Computer.
The negotiations are currently stuck between the Beatles own company Apple Corp and EMI who own the rights to the Beatles recordings. Once they agree to the terms Apple Computer will simply publish the music on the EMI terms they already have in place.
My guess is that Apple Corp (Beatles) does not want the music to be DRM free (iTunes Plus) but EMI probably does as that is the preferred route they use with iTunes now.
Don't blame Apple Computer for this delay, it is not down to them this time!
Thank you Parky, for reading this article correctly.
The current disagreement has nothing to do with Apple (computers) so all those snarky comments directed at Jobs and the iPod maker are a bit silly.
Led Zeppelin has been on iTunes for several months now, try looking once in awhile.
Holy CRAP! You are RIGHT! I had GIVEN UP on that!!
*does a happy dance, despite the poster's snarky tone*
'Kashmir' here I come. *runs to the iTMS*
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Who cares? Anyone who does, isn't waiting for iTunes. Those that want Beatles on their iPods already got the music somewhere else.
Yup. I advised someone on the best way to convert CDs (bitrate, album covers, etc.) after which he went to the library, borrowed all their Beatles CDs and ripped them all to 160kbps DRM-free AAC files he can play on many devices. They snooze, they lose.
For most of us "technologically savvy" people it's not a big deal. For the media and mainstream it's going to hold the same significance as colour TV surpassing B/W. It will signify to regular people that Digital Content is here to stay. That the real significance.
You already know it. I know it. But regular people need symbols and this will be a big one.
"You never give me your money."
"You only give me your funny paper."
"And in the middle of negotiations,
I break down."
Whoever said that, knew what they were talking about!
Oh wait...
The dumb under 30 crowd that thinks the Beatles are not worth listening to are missing so much.
So you do care?.
Ahhh, no.
Why are so many dismissing the relevance of the Beatles?.
This "will it wont it" story has been going on for ages. I think people were originally looking forward to having the beatles on itunes, but it's turned into such a bore that many would rather they simply buggerd off altogether.
Led Zeppelin has been on iTunes for several months now, try looking once in awhile.
Damn, YOU are right!
I hate that
Actually I did an iTunes search as I wrote the response on "zepplin" and it just returned all the crap cover songs. As they say on XM "only the song retains the name" - cute!
My day has been made too!!!