Apple investigating graphics issues on new MacBook lines

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  • Reply 21 of 74
    cubertcubert Posts: 728member
    Ahhhh.....reason number 8,364 to not buy a first revision product.
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  • Reply 22 of 74
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr. H View Post


    I've got a brand new MacBook Pro and so far, no serious problems.



    I've got a new MacBook with no issues, but I don't play games.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr. H View Post


    Well, that's wrong whichever side of the pond you're on.



    I'm aware of that, hence my italicizing of are.
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  • Reply 23 of 74
    mr. hmr. h Posts: 4,870member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    I've got a new MacBook with no issues, but I don't play games.



    Ah yes, forgot to mention I don't play games either...



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    I'm aware of that, hence my italicizing of are.



    Oh noes! The spiral of mis-understandings! Yes, I was aware you were being deliberately incorrect.
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  • Reply 24 of 74
    mr. hmr. h Posts: 4,870member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cubert View Post


    Ahhhh.....reason number 8,364 to not buy a first revision product.



    What's reason 2192?
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  • Reply 25 of 74
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr. H View Post


    Well, that's wrong whichever side of the pond you're on.



    Without the little differences it wouldn't be half as much fun to hop across the pond.



    In general - can anyone say if the new Macbooks or MBPs run cooler? I don't game, but I get annoyed when the thing gets hot playing back YouTube or Hulu. Can anyone with a previous gen lappie comment on that?
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  • Reply 26 of 74
    Quote:
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    Without the little differences it wouldn't be half as much fun to hop across the pond.



    In general - can anyone say if the new Macbooks or MBPs run cooler? I don't game, but I get annoyed when the thing gets hot playing back YouTube or Hulu. Can anyone with a previous gen lappie comment on that?



    I used to love Apple due to their "It just works" philosophy. I am afraid them getting large is making them slack off. Question for others:



    Friday is the discount day for the MacBook Pro, however, according to this, it is having major issues. Buy or not buy? I doubt I will get this deal in the future, however, if it is having issues...
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  • Reply 27 of 74
    mr. hmr. h Posts: 4,870member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by walshbj View Post


    In general - can anyone say if the new Macbooks or MBPs run cooler? I don't game, but I get annoyed when the thing gets hot playing back YouTube or Hulu. Can anyone with a previous gen lappie comment on that?



    If you get a MacBook or a 2.4 MacBook Pro and use the integrated as opposed to dedicated graphics, it should definitely run cooler. These machines use "P" model Penryns rather than "T" models. The "T" version has a 35 watt TDP, and the "P" model has a 25 watt TDP. Sadly, the 2.53 GHz MBP uses a "T" version despite a "P" version being available with the same clock speed (the "P" is slightly more expensive in lots of 1000; in the volumes Apple buys at the difference would probably be about $10).



    My previous machine was an original MacBook 1.83 GHz Core Duo. The fans on that would start to blow like crazy when watching flash-video stuff. The new MacBook Pro doesn't break a sweat. In fact, in terms of CPU-bound stuff, it takes a lot to make the fans come on with this machine. I'd been waiting a long time for Intel CPUs to hit 25 watts and I'm very happy with this new MBP.
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  • Reply 28 of 74
    tbagginstbaggins Posts: 2,306member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DoogH View Post


    I used to love Apple due to their "It just works" philosophy. I am afraid them getting large is making them slack off. Question for others:



    Friday is the discount day for the MacBook Pro, however, according to this, it is having major issues. Buy or not buy? I doubt I will get this deal in the future, however, if it is having issues...





    I'd buy the previous generation ('early 2008') Macbook Pro off Amazon for $1444.



    But that's me.





    ...
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  • Reply 29 of 74
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    I always find it weird to say "Apple are". Do you also say "My company are..." or "That group are"? Aren't those collective nouns?



    Well, actually you might, though it depends on the context, ie. whether you're talking about it as a single entity or as a collection of individuals, eg. "my company is called XYZ", but "my team are often to be found down the pub on a Friday lunchtime".



    Back on topic, I've been seeing a few intermittent display problems on my new MBP too, eg. refresh issues when scrolling windows, and I'm hoping it's something that can be fixed with a software or firmware update rather than having to send the machine back. Not sure about it being heat related though. Compared to my previous MBP the new one runs *very* cool.



    -Rolf
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  • Reply 30 of 74
    zzzz, if its Nvidia fault again then I will be really pissed, they already made users with the 8600M GT wondering if their GPU will die within the 2 years to get a replacement, and now this?
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  • Reply 31 of 74
    tbagginstbaggins Posts: 2,306member
    Wonder if they're gonna roll the attempted software fix into 10.5.6 (thus perhaps holding its release up some), or release it separately?





    ...
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  • Reply 32 of 74
    I hope they are also working on the "video tearing" issue with Silverlight, which is noticeable when watching Netflix Watch Instantly. I've contacted Apple support about this. We'll see...
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  • Reply 33 of 74
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr. H View Post


    If you get a MacBook or a 2.4 MacBook Pro and use the integrated as opposed to dedicated graphics, it should definitely run cooler. These machines use "P" model Penryns rather than "T" models. The "T" version has a 35 watt TDP, and the "P" model has a 25 watt TDP. Sadly, the 2.53 GHz MBP uses a "T" version despite a "P" version being available with the same clock speed (the "P" is slightly more expensive in lots of 1000; in the volumes Apple buys at the difference would probably be about $10).



    My previous machine was an original MacBook 1.83 GHz Core Duo. The fans on that would start to blow like crazy when watching flash-video stuff. The new MacBook Pro doesn't break a sweat. In fact, in terms of CPU-bound stuff, it takes a lot to make the fans come on with this machine. I'd been waiting a long time for Intel CPUs to hit 25 watts and I'm very happy with this new MBP.



    Thanks Mr. H. I've got a MBP Santa Rosa that I don't plan on replacing. But I've also got a white Macbook that I'd like to trade in for a Uni-Macbook. I'm hoping it'll be a lot quieter. We got the MB for my wife and it was so loud. She watches a lot of movies on it - so we traded machines. I actually like the smaller size.



    The other thing about the white MB is that the front edge was SHARP! I got used to it quickly - but she hated it.



    I'm working on a post for Murphy Mac about this scary fact: We've spent $11,000 on Apple stuff since 2004.
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  • Reply 34 of 74
    This just happened to me yesterday on my new Macbook, not the pro. I had to restart my computer.



    Let me clarify though, aside from that brief hiccup, I love this computer. It certainly has met the "it just works" standard that I expected.
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  • Reply 35 of 74
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
    I wish all the grammar queens on here would just go away.
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  • Reply 36 of 74
    I had the same "patchy", blocky display while scrolling effect on my 2.2GHz MacBook Pro. Something def in the webkit as it is fine at first then something happens while using Safari and then it effects finder scrolling to.



    A log out will resolve the problem until Safari / wbkit goes haywire again... really didn't expect to see this on my new MacBook Pro. \



    Wholly crap, I registered in 2002 and made my first post today! that's got to be some kind of lurking record..
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  • Reply 37 of 74
    messiahmessiah Posts: 1,689member
    These are exactly the sort of issues that blow the Apple fanboys objections against Mac OS x86 out of the water.



    So much for Apple offering a better user experience because they design both the hardware and software ? they can't even get their hardware to work properly with their software!



    What a joke!
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  • Reply 38 of 74
    rokkenrokken Posts: 236member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by walshbj View Post


    Without the little differences it wouldn't be half as much fun to hop across the pond.



    In general - can anyone say if the new Macbooks or MBPs run cooler? I don't game, but I get annoyed when the thing gets hot playing back YouTube or Hulu. Can anyone with a previous gen lappie comment on that?



    I don't own a previous model of MacBook, but from my handful experience using my cousin's Early 2008 MacBook browsing internet solely, I would say the Late 2008 model is much more cooler. I usually have 5 or 6 apps running at the same time and the machine is just dead cold.
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  • Reply 39 of 74
    See this thread:



    http://discussions.apple.com/message...441698#8441698



    Any reports of Apple doing anything about these?



    Thanks!



    Jaime
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  • Reply 40 of 74
    Just bought my MBP 2.4 CTO (with 4GB Ram and 320GB HD) today. As i play WoW, i'm going to check if the black screen issue manifests on my machine. I'll post a reply with what happens as soon as i can get my hands on it. Came directly from the store to work, so i didn't have a chance to unbox it. Btw, this is my first mac and i'me very happy to be a switcher :-P
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