Pixelmator 1.4 (Sprinkle) coming likely in January

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in Mac Software edited January 2014
http://www.pixelmator.com/weblog/



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The update is not very big, but that?s because our new painting engine for Pixelmator 1.4 Sprinkle is just so amazing that we really want you to have it on Pixelmator as soon as possible (January, we hope) and that?s why we don?t have much time left for those minor updates....



P.S. Yup, the picture with this article was painted using Pixelmator 1.4 Sprinkle.








I admit to being skeptical about the Pixelmator project but they certainly are evolving the

product like they're serious. I can't wait for version 2 but 1.4 will suffice for early 2009.
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  • Reply 1 of 27


    I really want to like Pixelmator, but PS CS4 is just so much more powerful. I love Pixelmator's attempt, however, and would recommend this program to anyone that isn't doing anything too graphics intensive.



    I would really like to see this app evolve.


     


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  • Reply 2 of 27
    irelandireland Posts: 17,796member
    It good but this effect will immediately become overused right?
  • Reply 3 of 27
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 15,177moderator
    If it is a single effect then it won't be much use but if it is an example of a brush dynamics equivalent then it will be a great addition. Pixelmator doesn't have these kind of custom brushes, nor does it have a plugin engine and these among some other things hold it back from being a strong competitor to Photoshop Elements.
  • Reply 4 of 27
    frank777frank777 Posts: 5,839member
    I understand that Pixelmator probably doesn't want to poke the bear in the eye.



    But for me, the app is unusable without CMYK support.
  • Reply 5 of 27
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,392member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Frank777 View Post


    I understand that Pixelmator probably doesn't want to poke the bear in the eye.



    But for me, the app is unusable without CMYK support.



    I wonder if they're going to be able to get CMYK support working in Version 2.



    The Pixelmator team certainly is "mums the word" on their forums. They might know

    they won't have CMYK support ready for the next rev or they may have that as one of

    the key selling features.



    Pixelmator and VectorDesigner right now are my two fav apps to watch. Both should be

    pretty solid in 2009 and both are so lightweight they launch right up and are ready for

    work. I love that.



    Can't wait to see more about this new painting engine next month.
  • Reply 6 of 27
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dirkph View Post


    I really want to like Pixelmator, but PS CS4 is just so much more powerful. I love Pixelmator's attempt, however, and would recommend this program to anyone that isn't doing anything too graphics intensive.



    I would really like to see this app evolve.



    PS CS4 is more powerful...but is it 8 times more powerful to justify it costing 8 times more than Pixelmator?



    Pixelmator is evolving (if you're suggesting it isn't)...it has been for the past year. It's evolving much faster than PS ever did or ever will.
  • Reply 7 of 27
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Marvin View Post


    If it is a single effect then it won't be much use but if it is an example of a brush dynamics equivalent then it will be a great addition. Pixelmator doesn't have these kind of custom brushes, nor does it have a plugin engine and these among some other things hold it back from being a strong competitor to Photoshop Elements.



    You must be kidding me. Pixelmator shipped with a brush plugin engine.
  • Reply 8 of 27
    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
    A lot of this criticism misses the point. I think the Pixelmator team is less interested in ticking off a long feature list and more interested in making a product that does what it does very well.



    I don't think they are not competing directly with Photoshop. I think they are paving their own path and user base.
  • Reply 9 of 27
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 15,177moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kim kap sol View Post


    PS CS4 is more powerful...but is it 8 times more powerful to justify it costing 8 times more than Pixelmator?



    Photoshop Elements is not 8 times more than Pixelmator, they are closely priced and Elements has more features.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kim kap sol View Post


    Pixelmator is evolving (if you're suggesting it isn't)...it has been for the past year. It's evolving much faster than PS ever did or ever will.



    PS is one of the giant apps that has reached a development plateau. Once the GPU computing kicks off I'm sure there will be improvements made but right now, there isn't much that needs to be done.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kim kap sol


    Pixelmator shipped with a brush plugin engine.



    I must have missed that but there were a few other things missing. I can't recall what they were but I decided to stick with Photoshop. Having a quick launch time is nice but some of the quartz interface effects were quite annoying.



    I'll probably try out the latest version again to see what's new. Does Pixelmator have batch image encoding?
  • Reply 10 of 27
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Marvin View Post


    Photoshop Elements is not 8 times more than Pixelmator, they are closely priced and Elements has more features.



    The comparison was with Photoshop CS4, not Elements. Here is the original post:



    PS CS4 is more powerful...but is it 8 times more powerful to justify it costing 8 times more than Pixelmator?



    Photoshop CS4 lists for $700, Elements lists for $100, and Pixelmator lists for $60. Therefore, you are correct - Elements is not 8 times more expensive than Pixelmator. However, Photoshop CS4 is 11.67 times more expensive than Pixelmator which is the comparison that was made.
  • Reply 11 of 27
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 15,177moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by texasag03 View Post


    Photoshop CS4 lists for $700, Elements lists for $100, and Pixelmator lists for $60. Therefore, you are correct - Elements is not 8 times more expensive than Pixelmator. However, Photoshop CS4 is 11.67 times more expensive than Pixelmator which is the comparison that was made.



    The point I was making was that the comparison itself was irrelevant. Photoshop Elements is more powerful than Pixelmator and so should have been the app to compare it with.



    The comparison was made to persuade people that Pixelmator is better value for money than PS CS4.



    Using Elements, it becomes:



    "PS Elements is $100, Pixelmator is $60, is Elements 67% more powerful to justify paying 67% more"



    I would say yes.
  • Reply 12 of 27
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Marvin View Post


    The point I was making was that the comparison itself was irrelevant. Photoshop Elements is more powerful than Pixelmator and so should have been the app to compare it with.



    The comparison was made to persuade people that Pixelmator is better value for money than PS CS4.



    Using Elements, it becomes:



    "PS Elements is $100, Pixelmator is $60, is Elements 67% more powerful to justify paying 67% more"



    I would say yes.



    kim kap sol posted the following:



    Quote:

    PS CS4 is more powerful...but is it 8 times more powerful to justify it costing 8 times more than Pixelmator?



    You responded with the following statement:



    Quote:

    Photoshop Elements is not 8 times more than Pixelmator, they are closely priced and Elements has more features.



    You argued a point which kim did not make. Kim may not have been making a logical or even valid comparison, but he was comparing CS4 to Pixelmator.



    Is Elements 67% more powerful than Pixelmator? I suppose that depends on what you need to do. It probably isn't 67% more powerful for most people.



    Of course, you can get it for $80 on Amazon, so that would probably be worth the difference. I would think that Elements is 33% more powerful than Pixelmator...
  • Reply 13 of 27
    frank777frank777 Posts: 5,839member
    The Pixelmator blog says that Sprinkle (1.4) will be available next week.



    Looks good, though I'm disappointed that there's still no word on when CMYK support will be added.
  • Reply 14 of 27
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Frank777 View Post


    I understand that Pixelmator probably doesn't want to poke the bear in the eye.



    But for me, the app is unusable without CMYK support.



    I suppose your work doesn't include the Web. Nothing in the Web requires CMYK. If Adobe and the Pre-press really think the Web is going to supplant their business you watch how fast they get involved with the W3C and do the heavy lifting of CMYK for Browsers.



    Suddenly, we'll have RGBA [soon standard on browsers of Webkit, Gecko and Opera: I assume IE since I've stopped targeting that for quite some time] and for CMYK they'd quickly see every image editor with CMYK if the Web browser had it built-in.



    I imagine Adobe knows this and realizes the longer they can stall it's progress the longer their control over the Pre-press industry with Photoshop will remain.



    I imagine that with GEGL soon to be CMYK ready, GIMP and perhaps Pixelmator [seeing as it uses GraphicsMagick and wouldn't have a problem using GEGL for heavy lifting] will make them both be viable options for far more general photoshop users. I doubt the highend expert will blink, but no one expects them too ever switch.
  • Reply 15 of 27
    frank777frank777 Posts: 5,839member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post


    I suppose your work doesn't include the Web. Nothing in the Web requires CMYK. If Adobe and the Pre-press really think the Web is going to supplant their business you watch how fast they get involved with the W3C and do the heavy lifting of CMYK for Browsers.



    I do play in the world of print, which is why I'm looking for CMYK support.



    I already know that "Nothing in the Web requires CMYK", which is like saying digital video creation doesn't need spreadsheets. I never implied that web-work needed CMYK support, only that I did.



    Printing isn't going to be supplanted by the web, anymore than the way video was supposed to kill the radio star. Kinko's isn't going to die anytime soon. I think that CMYK support would make Pixelmator a great alternative for us in business who have to print stuff for clients.



    And that's ultimately good for the Mac platform to keep its edge in graphics and design.
  • Reply 16 of 27
    frank777frank777 Posts: 5,839member
    Sprinkle's here. As expected, it looks very good (but still no CMYK )
  • Reply 17 of 27
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Frank777 View Post


    Sprinkle's here. As expected, it looks very good (but still no CMYK )



    Why so agro? Pixelmator isn't written to serve any one potential customer's particular wishes. If you want CMYK, get something else, nothing worth getting worked up about.



    It's especially futile getting worked up at a software package available for a couple dozen dollars when it doesn't provide some functionality that would let you substitute it for a several hundred dollar package.



    Just keep your eye on it and if it adds what you want, post a , if it doesn't a is a whole lot more appropriate.
  • Reply 18 of 27
    frank777frank777 Posts: 5,839member
    Agro? I did say that it looked very good.



    I know a few people are apparently upset that 'Save for Web' isn't in this one either.

    I'd happily pay $99. for a 'Pro' version that had 'Save for Web' and CMYK support.



    I don't think anybody's too "worked up" about the missing features, just that it's time Adobe got some real competition and we are anxiously watching the coming reinvention of the Design space on the Mac.



    By next year, we'll hopefully have mature, nimble (and Mac-only) versions of iStudio Pro, Pixelmator and Lineform.



    The Adobe Creative Suite will seem dated by comparison.
  • Reply 19 of 27
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Frank777 View Post


    Agro? I did say that it looked very good.



    I know a few people are apparently upset that 'Save for Web' isn't in this one either.

    I'd happily pay $99. for a 'Pro' version that had 'Save for Web' and CMYK support.



    No need to be upset, the plan has always been that 'Save for Web' would be in 1.5.



    Those that hoped that it would show up in 1.4 simply haven't done their homework.



    The thing that fascinates me the most is the empty promises some people make: "I'll only pay if such and such feature is added." And once these features are added, these same people come up with a new excuse not to buy. Well, boo-fucking-hoo...I hope the devs never cater to that crowd.
  • Reply 20 of 27
    frank777frank777 Posts: 5,839member
    I haven't seen a roadmap on the Pixelmator site, I just read blog comments saying that Save for Web was supposed to be coming and then follow ups saying it wasn't in the release. Good to hear about the plan.



    Is there any news on where CMYK fits into the roadmap? That's important to my workflow.



    I understand your frustration with such types, but my understanding is that Pixelmator is being pitched to the photo enthusiast/prosumer crowd, not generally the iPhoto target market. This category would be heavily weighted toward Web Designers and Print Designers.



    The former would tend to see Save for Web as a big deal, the latter CMYK. I can understand why either category would hesitate to adopt a photo editor without their biggest 'needed feature'.
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