Rumors fuel hopes for unibody 17-inch MacBook Pro

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  • Reply 61 of 74
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    What if it's not a battery? What if it's a fuel cell?
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  • Reply 62 of 74
    bclapperbclapper Posts: 237member
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    What if it's not a battery? What if it's a fuel cell?



    That would be interesting
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  • Reply 63 of 74
    bwikbwik Posts: 565member
    We do know that the word "rife" has a negative connotation, one of disease, don't we? Seems to me this site has had other problems like this designing its story headlines.



    This story headline seems to say that macworld.com is rife with banner ads, or perhaps spyware. That is the most logical interpretation of the wording used in the headline. To say a convention hall is "rife" with something sounds alarming and maybe dangerous.
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  • Reply 64 of 74
    haggarhaggar Posts: 1,568member
    If there is no accessible panel, does that mean the hard drive won't be user accessible either?
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  • Reply 65 of 74
    haggarhaggar Posts: 1,568member
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    Now all of you 17" MacBook Pro whiners can stop whining that there is no 17" MBP rumors. Now you can whine about the lack of a removable battery instead! I say...let the bitching begin! I can see it now..."if its true I will not buy one!"



    Apple defenders to the rescue! No matter what maneuver Apple pulls, we can always count on Apple defenders to rationalize and defend the undefendable.



    If Dell, HP, or any other company made a laptop without a user replaceable battery, I'd be willing to bet that these same Apple defenders would be "bitching" and "whining" about those companies. Yet when Apple does the same thing, it's so insanely great.
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  • Reply 66 of 74
    wilcowilco Posts: 985member
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    This doesn't even deal with the reality that some of the Green memes are not based in any sort of rational science but rather are for all appearances the activities of people that appear to get their jollies trying to force change on others just for the sake of change. The desire to recycle everything no matter the economics being just one example. Not that recycling is bad just that it has to make sense to recycle the materials in the first place.



    Dave



    Tell us again about the liberal conspiracies!



    Do you get paid by the post?



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  • Reply 67 of 74
    haggarhaggar Posts: 1,568member
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    This doesn't even deal with the reality that some of the Green memes are not based in any sort of rational science but rather are for all appearances the activities of people that appear to get their jollies trying to force change on others just for the sake of change.



    You mean like companies which make laptops and phones that don't allow users to replace the batteries?
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  • Reply 68 of 74
    haggarhaggar Posts: 1,568member
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    When you consider the amount of space wasted with a removable-battery by things like the external battery casing, bay, hardware, reinforcements, etc. then it is quite a reasonable assumption that Apple can use that wasted space to add more battery volume and spread it around the chassis more efficiently resulting in a "slimmer" battery. Current batteries have to be in a shape of a slim brick so that it is easier to carry but that me sacrifices weight and design.



    This was the same argument that Apple apologists used to defend the lack of easily accessible hard drives in the previous MacBook Pro. Perhaps you were making the same argument yourself. Then all these apologists got egg on their face after Apple released the unibody MacBook Pro which is thinner, more durable, and easier to access.



    Notice that in the previous MacBook Pro, the battery was part of the external structure of the laptop, so it needed a hard metal casing on the outside. With the new MacBook Pro, the battery now sits completely inside the laptop, yet it can still be easily removed by the user. There is nothing about a laptop battery that should prevent users from being able to replace it themselves, even if it means having to remove an extra cover. Replacing a laptop battery should not require users to take the laptop to a service center or else void their warranty. Even the iPhone 3G battery is no longer soldered to the logic board like it was in the original iPhone, despite Apple defenders claiming that a soldered on battery is more reliable or takes up less space.
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  • Reply 69 of 74
    mellomello Posts: 555member
    Honestly, the battery isn't an issue for me since I'm almost always plugged in & heat isn't an issue

    for me since my laptop is never on my lap when I use it. I would prefer more options when

    configuring my laptop on the Apple Store though:



    Quadcore option



    Graphic cards option



    Hard drive options: 256-512mb SSD drives or 500gig to 1 terabyte hardrives
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  • Reply 70 of 74
    zoetmbzoetmb Posts: 2,656member
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    Instead, the 17-inch notebook is said to have a "super slim" battery that can't be removed, not unlike the MacBook Air.



    For me, the issue isn't so much being able to swap batteries, although that's certainly a concern. It's the fact that I don't want to have to send the unit in for a repair in order to get the battery replaced when it stops charging to full capacity.



    I have the same issue with the iPhone. A simple thing like a battery should not be the subject of a "repair". Why does Apple insist on taking these steps backwards just so the case doesn't have a line in it? In the case of the iPhone, the aesthetics of the case are moot since most people put a cover around it anyway.



    I've already bought the 15" MBP, but if the 17" was great enough, I might have sold the 15" to get the 17". But with a non-removable battery, I'll stick with the 15".



    The environmental arguments don't hold water. Whether you send it to Apple or replace the battery yourself, you're still replacing the battery.
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  • Reply 71 of 74
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    Honestly, the battery isn't an issue for me since I'm almost always plugged in & heat isn't an issue

    for me since my laptop is never on my lap when I use it. I would prefer more options when

    configuring my laptop on the Apple Store though:



    Quadcore option



    Graphic cards option



    Hard drive options: 256-512mb SSD drives or 500gig to 1 terabyte hardrives





    Me too, the battery is of small concern for my use (always plugged in), MORE, MORE advanced new features in the PRO line are needed! faster chip, more memory, better graphics,etc...



    I have seen the macbook get better and better while the macbook PRO line seems to be asleep with new improvements.



    PRO should be for PRO's and not just a metal macbook with a firewire port (zzzzzzzzzz) The 17" should be the TOP OF THE APPLE NOTEBOOK LINE and be blown out with PRO features...



    I guess we will see tomorrow, but I feel another sleepytime upgrade (battery/unibody) is all there is ...snore!
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  • Reply 72 of 74
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
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    You mean like companies which make laptops and phones that don't allow users to replace the batteries?



    What Apple does is offers up an alternative, the consumer can and does choose freely between devices with built in batteries and those without. That is a huge difference relative to being told that a battery must be removable and of a certain form factor & technology.



    The fact is excessive regulation could make some approaches to portable devices illegal. This would stifle innovation at a time when it is most needed. This is especially relavant today because there are battery technologies in the labs right no that have more in common with a sheet of paper than a battery cell.



    In short regulation that stifles choice or innovation is a bad thing.





    Dave
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  • Reply 73 of 74
    mabmab Posts: 14member
    any word on the screen resolution. Will it still be 1900x1200, which the last time I checked was even better than my HDTV?
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  • Reply 74 of 74
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
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    Originally Posted by wilco View Post


    Tell us again about the liberal conspiracies!



    Tell me again about the conspiracies because being liberal has nothing to do with concern for the environment. People on both sides of the political fence have concrns about the environment that are completely justified. Frankly radical environmental nut jobs dont seem to have a political affiliation but rather seem to hook up to the parties that are willing to pander to them.

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    Do you get paid by the post?







    Obviously that comment above is based on complete ignorance. Some of the most conservative people I know of, Democrate or Republican, are farmers and everyone of them has a concern for the environment. If you don't think that talk about global warming, believed or not, isn't a concern with this conservative group then you are nuts.



    Global warming if it is even happening though is off in the future. For a farmer the environment is an every day concern. Be it the weather or the trash some city slicker dumped on his property in the middle of the night.



    In any event the wrong type of recycling does in my mind encourage waste which becomes an issue for all people. If you really want to impact the environment the best thing you can do is to address the frequent buyer. That is the guy that replaces his car every two year or his cell phone every six months. The way I see it is if Apple comes out with a battery that physically lasts a long time and powers a laptop for a day, then they are doing the environment a lot of good. If that battery recycles well and is relatively non toxic that is all the better.



    Dave
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